gambler Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I understand now, thanks. but I have bad hearing so,if I can I should turn modulation off. If the detector allows it. right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvanwho Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Hmm, I love VCO, but with modulation turned off and you already know its a weak signal from VCO being on, should be a LOT easier to pinpoint with Modulation OFF, so why not just switch back and forth between the 2 modes on deeper targets to evaluate whether to dig or not? I sure would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 hour ago, gambler said: I understand now, thanks. but I have bad hearing so,if I can I should turn modulation off. If the detector allows it. right? Most machines are modulated, and then offer a Boost Mode, which enhances weaker signals. Not quite the same thing as it also enhances weak ground responses but it is an alternative. Unmodulated audio is most common on inexpensive coin detectors. The Garrett Ace models and the Garrett "bell tone" is a classic example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge Runner Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Well at this time I've put my name in the pot from Digger Bob to get the MXS as soon as the 6 x 10 coils come in. I'd had plan on being at the GPAA gold show this weekend but Rob said he didn't know just when he'd have the Racer 2. I guess I could have gone and seen the MXS but I wanted it anyway because it can swim. Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 My gmt has audio boost, maybe I need better headphones . Thanks for the education Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 So White's releases a detector and perhaps its number one selling point is it is submersible - if you get the optional waterproof headphones. Too bad there are no waterproof headphones to buy yet. As far as I know dealers also do not have accessory coils available. Manufacturers (not just White's) put as many roadblocks in the way of dealers and customers as possible. New machine comes out, customer hot to buy, credit card in hand - when is the best time to have a full range of accessories available? Yes, at time of purchase. Not a week later, or a month later, or whatever. As a dealer and a salesperson this always drove me berserk. Just bad business, period. It does not make me any happier as a customer either. It inconvieniences me and that should not be what a company is striving for. Again, not picking just on White's here. Minelab has been terribly guilty in this department. Other guys, not so much. I am picking up my MX Sport next week but looks like that is all I will be getting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge Runner Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Steve you said a mouth full when you said the opts is not out yet. The dealer didn't know the price or when the coil I wanted would be out. On the video White's showed all the MXS lined up but that's all you see. If I buy something I want it to come all at one time. This is like buying a car you get the body and the wheels may come in two weeks. Oh the motor is a opt too. Now I'm going to sell you a waterproof metal detector but you can't play in the water. Waterproof headphones and wheels are about the same being it's not complete without them. I understand I need to buy the extra coils but why should I have to buy the headphones to make the waterproof part of the detector whole. If this runs up the cost of the product then charge it. Just don't do it half way. Chuck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I don't mind the headphones being optional since at $150 a lot of people will not need them. But at this point it is not even an option, just a promise, and not even a date. It is like there is a penalty for being an early buyer. Half the time you get a machine that may need some sort of fix or upgrade later. You can't get needed accessories. And no deals for being first at the plate - if anything you pay more for the privilege of either being a loyal customer or guinea pig, depending how you look at it. Not only should underwater phones be available now, but a nice touch would be an introductory discount for those that get them at the time they buy their detector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khouse Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 You can take the headphone whip that comes in the box and make your own headphone set up like the Atpros. The Atpro phones are not waterproof but the connector is. You just shouldn't submerge the phones. So anyway you would take the mxs whip and seal it to an existing headphone plug with silicone. You could slip a tube over the connector and fill it from both sides with silicone caulking. Use Type 1 not type 2 silicone. Or possibly the best way would be to use silicone tape. Just tightly wrap that tape around the connector to waterproof it. Then screw the whip into the mxs and everything but the phones will be waterproof. Just an idea to throw out there........................ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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