Goldseeker5000 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 So Steve, I am a skeptic of Garretts gold machines being able to hit on gold as tiny as what Minelab's can hit on and as deep as Minelab's can reach the gold. Years ago I used to be a Garrett fan but their so called technology advancements have seemed to me at least to be little more than a shell make-over. I also have seen first hand the electronic components seem low end and cheap compared to Minelab, such as the wiring on the coils. Every Garrett I have owned started falsing and developing cracks in the coil wiring exposing the copper wires. Have they upgraded the electronic components on the Axiom? For roughly $4000 I certainly hope so. I had bought the Infinitum L/S many years ago and was pissed when I got it in the mail and it was visibly cheap. Every time you swung the coil the lower shaft would slop back and forth because they didn't seem to see the need for a twist lock knob between the lower and upper shaft. After that it started falsing constantly before a year was up. Then the atx came out and it was essentially the Infinium in a new shell. The cord coming out of the control box on the Axiom as far out as it does I think will eventually become a problem getting caught on all kinds of stuff and weakening the coil plug housing. Can it hit on gold as tiny as the 6000 or 7000 can and as deepĀ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR Guy Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Gold seeker makes an interesting point on charging, manual says 8hr to charge off mains power. I suppose the other question being an internal battery - how long does it last (manual states - ābatteries will last for many yearsā) and if you canāt replace the battery (without taking it back to Garret) then whatās the machines resale value? Run it on AAs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff McClendon Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Goldseeker5000, I'm not Steve but from looking at your list of detectors and how well you are doing with them......why do you need an Axiom? Unless you have ground or EMI that the 6000 can't handle or you personally can't or no longer want to physically handle the GPX 5000 (that is my main issue with it) the Axiom would seem to me to be a lateral move for you. Instead of bad mouthing and trashing Garrett, just stick with what you have. I have never owned an Infinium, Sea Hunter or ATX. I did use an ATX for a few hours.......and swore to not do that again. It detected just fine but it wore me out. I never had a problem with the Garrett AT series VLFs I owned and used. Excellent detectors. The recent Garrett Apex.........nothing but problems with the two I owned briefly. Others had very good experiences. Ā Ā Ā 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff McClendon Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, GR Guy said: Gold seeker makes an interesting point on charging, manual says 8hr to charge off mains power. I suppose the other question being an internal battery - how long does it last (manual states - ābatteries will last for many yearsā) and if you canāt replace the battery then whatās the machines resale value? Run it on AAs ? The manual also clearly says the internal Li Ion battery can be replaced at any Garrett Service Center. I assume there is a repair center in Australia...... If the internal battery is completely discharged or permanently done, the auxiliary external battery pack using fully charged or fresh batteries will last 6 to 8 hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR Guy Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jeff McClendon said: The manual also clearly says the internal Li Ion battery can be replaced at any Garrett Service Center. I assume there is a repair center in Australia...... If the internal battery is completely discharged or permanently done, the auxiliary external battery pack using fully charged or fresh batteries will last 6 to 8 hours. I did see and update that in my post Jeff. Itās still a limitation compared to other latest battery setups in gold machines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff McClendon Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 That is one thing I will definitely miss about the GPX 6000. Easy to remove and replace the battery if necessary.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry in Idaho Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 7 hours ago, Swegin said: Thank you.Ā Ā With a little effort you can find a dealer who will sell less than the MAP price after the frenzy cools off. Ā Wow... Are they really even dealers then just doing Drop Ships.Ā How does that help the few of us dealers who take the time to test, compare, share knowledge on detecting sites and promote the hobby?Ā As an active supporting dealer, just asking. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 34 minutes ago, Goldseeker5000 said: So Steve, I am a skeptic of Garretts gold machines being able to hit on gold as tiny as what Minelab's can hit on and as deep as Minelab's can reach the gold. Years ago I used to be a Garrett fan but their so called technology advancements have seemed to me at least to be little more than a shell make-over. I also have seen first hand the electronic components seem low end and cheap compared to Minelab, such as the wiring on the coils. Every Garrett I have owned started falsing and developing cracks in the coil wiring exposing the copper wires. Have they upgraded the electronic components on the Axiom? For roughly $4000 I certainly hope so. I had bought the Infinitum L/S many years ago and was pissed when I got it in the mail and it was visibly cheap. Every time you swung the coil the lower shaft would slop back and forth because they didn't seem to see the need for a twist lock knob between the lower and upper shaft. After that it started falsing constantly before a year was up. Then the atx came out and it was essentially the Infinium in a new shell. The cord coming out of the control box on the Axiom as far out as it does I think will eventually become a problem getting caught on all kinds of stuff and weakening the coil plug housing. Can it hit on gold as tiny as the 6000 or 7000 can and as deepĀ I feel you are being somewhat unfair to Garrett. They are not making any claims or assertions regarding detectability of any size of gold at any depth relative to Minelab units. I also think that any āhistoryā of Garrett detectors having build or design issues have no bearing on what they are offering today.Ā The Axiom doesnāt need to compete with any Minelab detector and Garrett probably know thatā¦ā¦it looks to be in a class of its own and doesnāt need to be āmore powerfulā than rival units.Ā Sit back and let the Axiom stand up for itselfā¦..things look very good so far ? Ā 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry in Idaho Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 6 hours ago, Swegin said: Once you know the dealer cost it's easy.Ā Just a few emails.Ā Ā I won't provide mine.Ā It's a slap in the face to my long time loyal customers who understand quality dealers who go/do above and beyond. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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