New Minelab Manticore

[Chase Goldman]

8 hours ago, phrunt said:

If it's stock coil is 15" I'd be happy, I want a deeper detector, the deeper the better for me! If they've made this beast have CTX silver ID and depth I guess I waited way too long to buy a CTX as now I'll want to replace it already ?

It's not going to be deeper than Equinox with its 15" coil in the sense that you will hit targets any deeper (remember we've basically hit the limit on VLF detection depth and have been there for quite some time), but it may give more reliable TID at depth than Equinox, a la CTX.  So I do believe it will be a dream machine for you Simon so you can retire the CTX behemoth.

Larger coil in my hot soils is counterproductive as it picks up too much ground- I would probably not choose that coil at all if I had my druthers.  Hoping they come out with a a 10x5 accessory coil for it, might sit up and take notice then.  Otherwise this is a yawner with a bad name for me.

I am much more interested in Axiom than this thing and happy with my D2 and Legend combo, as I really am done with the ergonomics of the Nox now.  It's only bearable with the collapsible shaft and 10x5 coil and they've now made sure to sabotage the third party shaft systems with their funky coil/stem attachments (perhaps). 

This will be one new VLF I am probably going to wait on well after release and enjoy watching the circus from the sidelines for once.  Really doesn't excite me at this point, especially since they apparently did nothing to improve the terrible grip handle.  It's just a tweak to Equinox that is not really going to do much for me because I'm a relic hunter that cares more about picking out brass and lead (and the occasional gold) in hot soil and/or amongst junk than deep silver and since that is about the easiest target to hit at depth regardless of what detector you use, so much of it has already been cherry-picked in any plot that has had any coil run over it at least once,  (except that which is hiding in the iron and modern trash and D2 and Nox with the 10x5 take care of that).

Glad I'm not going to have to endure the inevitable disappointment of the release delays.  In fact, I'd likely sell my Equinox now except for the fact that I would have nothing to attach to my excellent Coiltek 10x5 Nox Coil, the only thing that is forcing me to keep Nox after the release of D2 and Legend since they don't yet have a comparable coil.

(Disclaimer: My brutal honesty about how I am truly feeling about Manticore right now notwithstanding, as an unabashed non-recovering detector addict, I reserve the right to completely contradict myself in an instant and queue up for this one as soon as my anti-impulse-detector-buy medication wears off, so don't bother trying to throw this post in my face in the future).

[Joe D.]

Like I said on the other post...

    I hope it can fly (wings notwithstanding), because they missed the boat, and burnt the bridges!

   Or in plan English, too little too late!

And "They lost me at Manticore"; the video's ? FX didn't help!??

[Chase Goldman]

37 minutes ago, Joe D. said:

Like I said on the other post...

    I hope it can fly (wings notwithstanding), because they missed the boat, and burnt the bridges!

   Or in plan English, too little too late!

And "They lost me at Manticore"; the video's ? FX didn't help!??

I'll wait for Jeff McClendon's (get back on your feet soon, my friend, you got work to do) and Andy Benson's reviews.  They know best how I hunt and what I hunt in and have not steered me wrong. 

But I'm thinking, this is not a game changer for me, but another incremental VLF release that has a few desirable bells and whistles perhaps missing on Nox but no game changers.  But also no real improvement/innovation on ergonomics (just a CF shaft and custom clevis they will use as an excuse to overcharge for while conveniently hiding under the exorbitant pricing of XP) and that's really disappointing.  The disingenuous silence/blame shifting spin regarding the open secret flaws associated with Nox watertight integrity and their continued lack of commitment to providing accessory coil options (even going out of their way to provide cross platform compatibility between Nox and Vanquish), have left a bad taste in my mouth.   Therefore, not quite willing to take the bait on a technology fix at the expense of my self respect...just yet.  ?

Again, this is my take, and my take alone.  I know it will fill the bill nicely for many.
 

[vive equinox]

What is that ? Seem it’s broken..

i hope it’s just an effect of the pic? 

[abenson]

1 hour ago, Chase Goldman said:

I'll wait for Jeff McClendon's (get back on your feet soon, my friend, you got work to do) and Andy Benson's reviews.  They know best how I hunt and what I hunt in and have not steered me wrong. 

I'll likely pass on this one and wait for others reviews. More interested in the Axiom right now that the Manticore. I really can't see what the Manticore is going to offer that's not already available. Looks to me like it's going to target beach and deep coin hunters. I only hunt beaches with a PI anymore and my days of park hunting are basically over. I'm a relic hunter at heart and a PI basically rules that type of hunting as well.

Like others have said, too little too late. Can't keep spending money on every new release that comes out. The Manticore is going to have to be pretty impressive for me to pull the trigger on one. Although I am on a list just in case.

[Jeff McClendon]

14 hours ago, Chase Goldman said:

 

Love it!  

Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall at the "Manticore" decision meeting to see what names didn't make the cut.

I seriously don’t like scorpions (stung way too many times). Meerkat……..really cute. Manticore……is such a sciagurato choice for a nice looking detector. Still no interest in this ridiculously named detector………

[Joe D.]

Ok Jeff,

I really want you to get better, but why are you making me translate Italian!!????

[Jeff McClendon]

2 hours ago, Chase Goldman said:

I'll wait for Jeff McClendon's (get back on your feet soon, my friend, you got work to do) and Andy Benson's reviews.  They know best how I hunt and what I hunt in and have not steered me wrong.

Hugh, it will be a long wait……My Nox 800s are still doing just fine, the Legend is way better than I expected and the Deus 2 Lite that I settled on after selling my Deus 2 remote have my VLF needs totally covered. I don’t need better ergonomics, waterproofing, an extra 1/4” inch provided by a huge coil that won’t be any better than an 11” in high iron mineralization, and an Fe/Co screen to slow me down with something else to look at. I already know with a high degree of certainty what I am about to dig with the detectors I have.

When I can hobble or walk, I use a SMF VLF everyday since coins and jewelry are abundant around here, but still not interested in this new Minelab detector.

Like I said earlier the Manticore (I need to hear a Minelab affiliated Aussie actually pronounce it) would have to be ‘lights out” better than what I already have to make me seriously look at it in the near future. Plus I won’t be looking at it through the viewpoint and attitude of a couple of famous US YouTube influencers. That crap is not going to influence me.

You will have to find another trusted source if you actually believe I am one?????  Sorry, won’t be me.

[Jeff McClendon]

23 minutes ago, Joe D. said:

Ok Jeff,

I really want you to get better, but why are you making me translate Italian!!????

Same reason that Minelab have made us find out what the hell Manticore means…..totally obscure and a mishmash of languages (misspelled) to boot. Why they picked that name can only be based on some kind of marketing arrogance. It’s not as fun to say as sciagurato!