Minelab Manticore Update Today (oct. 18th. 2022)

[Gerry in Idaho]

I'm trying my best to share the knowledge as Minelab USA provided it to us.

I found out the other day, those of us who enjoy the Equinox 600 and Equinox 800, their waterproof headphones are 100% compatible with the Manticore.  Now this is interesting.  The wireless headphones are not the ML 80's as is on the Equinox.  They are also not the ML 100's as we have on the GPX-6000.  Something new for us and probably better than the others.  Let's hope.

Today (Oct. 18th) we get to see what's Included. 

 

I realize this does not answer all questions but at least it gives us an idea that we'll be getting our initial shipments of a simple package similar to the Equinox 800.  It will come with detector, an 11" DD coil with cover and wireless headphones with case.

 

Anyone see anything missing that you expected?

Again, if you have not put your name on a list, let me know.  Just like with many other detectors in the past, I usually order more than most and get them to customers sooner.  My 25 year Minelab track record speaks for itself.

Thanks,  Gerry

 

[UT Dave]

Already on the list with you Gerry.  Hope you get a bunch of them in the first shipment!

I'm wanting the 8x5.5 coil too.  Hope they are available soon after the Manticore ships.

- Dave Affleck

[phrunt]

You would think for the price the cheap mongrels could include the 8x5.5 coil in the package, they even include 2 coils with the Vanquish that's extremely cheap compared to the Mandible.  Talk about taking us for a ride, oh well, getting one anyway 🙂

[mn90403]

Does this mean that the 11 inch coil will go as deep as the 15 inch coil on my 800?  😁

[Gerry in Idaho]

Dave - I hope to get a bunch.  Heck, even if they only send me a small partial of my order, that will cover those on my list.  My list is not as big as last time and I wonder if it's the Economy?  As for the smaller coil.  I was told all accessory coils will come later as they are mainly working to get the detectors out 1st.  This is pretty standard on new release detectors.

Simon - You cheap Mongrel,🤣 trying to get an extra coil out of them.  This coming from a guy who has purchased more detectors than 95% of the people I know.  Yes it would be great if they did in fact offer it as "Introductory Sale".  But you and I know, they could have offered it for $1999 and I think many would purchase it anyway.  Seems the $1600 price point is right on with the Deus-II though and that seems to be it's competition.  

Mitchel - Well most certainly.  After all "It's a Minelab Beast".😆

 

 

 

[Ridge Runner]

For what my opinion is worth I’d always go for a somewhat smaller coil than what most detector companies offer on their new detector. I’m not saying the norm 11” coil don’t have its place but all my detecting area is not all beach front property.

 I’m sure others and Minelab know most people will want that smaller coil so that’s a automatic sell for them.

 I say if was to do some beach hunting I’d probably go with a larger coil than the 11” one.

 Some people out there may be saying I’ll just wait until Minelab is offering that smaller coil so many of us are wanting.

 I know myself I have the Nox 800 with both small coils . I’m more than happy with that great detector and because of that I can sit back to let Manticore catch up. The catch up is for the Manticore small coils before I buy.

 I’m sure that day will come!

 Chuck 

[EL NINO77]

I think that an 11" coil like... the standard Manticore coil is a good and especially effective compromise between depth and separation.. which is really visible in modern technically advanced detectors with recovery speed settings... .., where the 11" coil... it will really do its job in detection... because it is very effective in detection...
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Of course, if Minelab Manticore will have other additional coils available at the time of its release - that will be another plus...which will increase the sales of this detector even more.

As Simon mentioned... for example, a Manticore package with two coils might be a really good idea..

[Gerry in Idaho]

Chuck - I'm a big fan of smaller coils.  Many of my old coin and relic sites are loaded with 100+ yr old iron trash and the smaller coils will outperform the stock coils. 

This 1867-S Seated Half came from a trashy site. It was at an 1860's wooden hotel that burned down, with more nails scattered across the soil than most could imagine.  It was the 1st coin I found here at this site.  Digging through iron and rusty tin to find this coin was tough. 

You can still see iron staining from one of the nails that was sitting on top of the coin. 

I realized how bad the conditions were and so I just kept at it with the small coil and even having to lift the coil a couple inches off the ground to get better target separation.  That trick helped recover one of my all time favorites.  The pic below is of 1852 $2.50 & the 1st gold coin any of my family ever found.  I highly recommend small coils for such sites.

The majority of detectorists only use the stock coils and when they get to a really trash site, their lack of knowledge and skill ends up leaving good nonferrous treasures to be found.  Smaller coils are the trick for many such sites.

 

If hunting for gold nuggets, a VLF detector has better chance of success at the old nugget patches as much of the remaining gold is small pickers.  A smaller coil is ideal for little gold bits and in fact many VLF detectors will get MORE DEPTH on a tiny picker than a stock size coil.

If I was to run to Rye Patch right now and my detector is a VLF type, it will have the smallest coil option and that will find me the most pieces of remaining gold.  I have to play the odds and that is exactly why I highly recommend all customers who come to my 3 days Field Training to make sure they have and use the small coil on their VLF's.  Any gold is better than no gold if you are new to the Au hunt.

Pictures are of an old Staff Member and his success at finding smaller pieces of gold while using the famous Gold Bug-2 with the smaller 6" Ellip coil. 

I'll have to admit and give credit when due, the GB-2 with 6" Ellip in non mineralized shallow ground is the most deadly of any VLF detector I know at finding those tiny bits.

 

EL NINO77 - Yes I agree with you as well.  Today's faster processor detectors can do much more with a stock size coil than the older technology machines of years past.  That's part of why I enjoy going back to my 1970s/80s/90s sites.  Heck even the sites from 10 yrs ago with todays detector speeds can find a few goodies.

A few yrs ago I detected a lake and the particular site in the water was where an old wooden pier used to be.  It (the pier) has not been there for many yrs.  I realized this site would be a tough hunt but with the older detectors I was able to find a few silvers and buffalo nickels.  My situation was that most of the good targets were deeper and in the 4" to 8" depth.  In all of that was good amount of rusty iron nails, bolts and other trash signals.  I like to run my DISC wide open so I can hear the amount of iron and since the older goodies were deeper, I needed the stock coils extra depth.  The site is very tough to hunt and most give up really quick-like.  

I was recently in the area and realized I had not used the Equinox at the site.  I figured the extra recovery speed of the newer detector just might pull me a few more old coins or other treasures.  So I put the newer technology to use at the site and immediately found a rough condition 1960's Jefferson Nickel, then a 1928 Buffalo Nickel.  I methodically kept at it swinging so slow and listening for just a slight change of tone, telling of something non iron.  That's when it happened and I dug this beauty of 14K white gold ring with a stunning diamond.

This ring sure put a smile on my face.  Luckily I didn't have a bugger in my nose.

 

I'm not saying the ring is really old and has been missed all those times.  But I do know this particular beach gets hunted quite a bit by a local club.  The fact that it was only 5' feet from the bank and in only 3' depth of water, it should have been recovered.  But since the amount of iron targets right there from when the old pier was there, they mask so many good targets.  Again, most folks walk away and hunt the easier ground.

 

The Equinox has been one of my favorite water detectors for a variety of reasons.

 

I feel the new Manticore, what detectors is mentioning/targeting and how they are advertising, it's going to be even better than the proven Equinox for so many people and different hunting styles.  

Having the other coils will just help make this detector shine even more.

Hopefully Trevor at CoilTek is already working on a smaller coil than what Minelab is offering.  My personal choice would be a 6" Ellip.  I would also accept a 5" round but an elliptical design can do more things.

Again EL NINO77 - I like your/Simon thoughts of 2 coil option when ordering but we have already been informed here in USA, we get it with just the stock coil.  Who knows what kind of promotions they might do later down the road.

Thanks for contributing.

 

[GaryC/Oregon Coast]

My Legend has a clock!!!  Why can't I get a frickin clock in my Minelab detector???  Just blowin steam.  GaryC/Oregon Coast

[Gerry in Idaho]

1 minute ago, GaryC/Oregon Coast said:

My Legend has a clock!!!  Why can't I get a frickin clock in my Minelab detector???  Just blowin steam.  GaryC/Oregon Coast

The Legend is a "Legend" = It's a historical detector.  Old school my friend and irrelevant.  The Manticore is a BEAST and it needs no time.  It can be late and or early to wherever it wants to hunt.🤣  All pun aside you do bring up a good point.  But then again we'd have to learn how to set it.  I get enough calls as it is trying to figure out how to do a Factory Reset.