SwiftSword Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 My main problem with these two-box setups is that I'm not prepared to dig 5' deep holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detector Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 On 7/22/2023 at 9:06 PM, Kostas 13 said: As a person who has been doing deep research for many years and has spent many thousands of euros on machines, I have many reservations about the effectiveness of the Xtrem Hunter, the tests done in the video do not prove anything to me, the ground looks even and without ores, which unfortunately in real exploration you do not easily find these conditions... I have written that under the right conditions both 2 boxes and all pi's can penetrate deep but what they can't do is penetrate when the soil changes composition and needs proper soil balance and that is where these machines fall short. i can easily locate 85 x 125 sheet metal at 3m depth with the gpx5000-25 NF and i will definitely have the perfect ground balance. https://youtube.com/shorts/G_w1hGqU6kM?feature=share even gpx5000 is not stable on soil changes composition ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Jeepguy Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 As Gary said in the video, you have to decide if it’s right for you. I commend XP for coming out with it. It’s just a matter of marketing the useful scenarios of the machine at this point. The main investment they probably had was with the Deus 2 control unit which obviously is used on this machine as well. Why wouldn’t they offer up another use for the tech? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 13 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 6 hours ago, detector said: ακόμα και το gpx5000 δεν είναι σταθερό στις αλλαγές της σύνθεσης του εδάφους; The gpx has the best ground balance built into a metal detector ever made, it also has so many options in both settings and coils that you can handle extreme ground conditions. don't forget the gpx is built to work in Australia where it has the toughest terrain in the world. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detector Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Kostas 13 said: The gpx has the best ground balance built into a metal detector ever made, it also has so many options in both settings and coils that you can handle extreme ground conditions. don't forget the gpx is built to work in Australia where it has the toughest terrain in the world. what about this video you posted? does it beeps on soil or there is a target there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 13 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 30 minutes ago, detector said: τι γίνεται με αυτό το βίντεο που δημοσίευσες; κάνει μπιπ στο χώμα ή υπάρχει στόχος εκεί; of course there is a goal and the specific one is at 3m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detector Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Kostas 13 said: of course there is a goal and the specific one is at 3m. thank you bro. what are the dimensions of the target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palzynski Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 12 hours ago, Kostas 13 said: don't forget the gpx is built to work in Australia where it has the toughest terrain in the world. it depends on what you mean by toughest terrain . In terms of iron trash , Europe has certainly much more iron trash density than in Australia , and is very probably a much more difficult soil in terms of iron separation . A specialist told me that the 2 boxes dont pickup up small parts of iron , while a Gpx tends to detect a lot of them . Personnaly I have tried a Gpx4000 a few years ago in one of my favorite fields ( infested by irons ) and it was almost unusable because it was detecting too much iron targets .. Looking fwd to a side by side comparison test on a big target ( a coin hoard for example ) between the Xtrem and a Gpx .. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detector Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 14 hours ago, palzynski said: it depends on what you mean by toughest terrain . In terms of iron trash , Europe has certainly much more iron trash density than in Australia , and is very probably a much more difficult soil in terms of iron separation . A specialist told me that the 2 boxes dont pickup up small parts of iron , while a Gpx tends to detect a lot of them . Personnaly I have tried a Gpx4000 a few years ago in one of my favorite fields ( infested by irons ) and it was almost unusable because it was detecting too much iron targets .. Looking fwd to a side by side comparison test on a big target ( a coin hoard for example ) between the Xtrem and a Gpx .. what you mean by iron trash? old man-made iron items or natural raw iron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palzynski Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 On 8/14/2023 at 12:47 PM, detector said: what you mean by iron trash? old man-made iron items or natural raw iron? Old man-made iron items in mild ground as we have plenty of them over here . Mostly nails . They exist since around -600 around here , then a total of around 2600 years of existence , since the celtic ( -600 to 0 ) , the roman ( 0 to +500 ) , merovingians ( 500 to 700 ) , medieval ( 700 to 1500 ), etc Not even talking about 1st WW trash with its shell fragments etc It is impossible to avoid them here and I am wondering how a GPX would react on them , my experience with a GPX4000 was rather negative as I said.. However I have no experience with a 2 boxes system and I am just curious to know what kind of system would be the more performing on a coin hoard search for example ( say 0,5kg or 1kg coins at 60 to 100 cm depth ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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