Erik_in_Mission Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Hello Friends ? Someone recommended me to start with a GPX 5000 for my Project. He said its not a big difference between a GPX 5000 and a GPZ 7000. So i have some questions, i hope you can help me. Is it true that the GPZ can measure about 40 Percent deeper comparing to a GPX ? Is the GPZ really so much better that its worth to pay a higher price? Which one of them would be easier to use for me, as a newbie? Is it smarter to start with a GPX or GPZ, what do you think? If i come in rainy wheather is it possible for the GPX to resist? Has he a IP64 code? What about to buy a used one? I read that the older GPZs works sometimes better than the new ones, is this true? Is the newest software ( 31/7/17 NEW SOFTWARE UPDATE ) really always the optimized one? Look here under the category FIND_BLOG, the same you can also find for the GPZ http://www.minersden.com.au/minelab-gpx-5000-metal-detector-11-in-mono-coil-bonus-15-mono-coil ! Are this just storys so that they sell the Detectors better or is this realistic? What do you think? What is the different about the GPZ 14 coil is fully waterproof to 1 m (3 ft) and GPZ 19 Super-D Coil? Is one of them going more deep, or is it more sesitive? What Coils do yu use with yur GPZ or GPX? Thanks a lot for your answers. For everybody who want to know more about my Project look here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredmason Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Neither detector is waterproof. The coils are water resistant to a meter or so. You didn't say what type of gold you are after. Big nuggets? Little 1/2 gram and smaller nuggets? Very fine gold? Invisible gold? A Equinox 600 or 800 a Goldbug or Whites may be all you need. The 5000 is an excellent detector with many coils available. The 7000 is my favorite and is the most expensive. Think it over...Read Steve's recommendations and get back to us. fred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 The GPZ may outperform the GPX on certain gold types by a wide margin. It also can have issues with some ground types the GPX handles easily. For the majority of gold my personal opinion is they are in the same ballpark once you use the optional GPX coils to good effect. The GPX is the "safe" choice. A used GPZ can be updated to the latest software. Beware used models - counterfeits are extremely common overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 One of my mates bought his second 7000 a few weeks ago. We did some testing against the 4500 using both the 11" and 14" coiltek elites coils. (not a lot of difference between a 4500 and a 5000 IMO) We placed some test bits of gold in some mineralized ground and at another site with less mineralized ground. No matter what settings/timings I used I couldn't hear the small bits of gold that the 7000 could. We even tried cranking the 4500's gain to 15, stabilizer on 20 and audio set to boost. We also tried using sensitive extra and normal timings but it couldn't match the 7000 on the small gold. On a larger bit of gold, I matched the 7000 but not using Enhance. Had to go to Normal timing and set the gain to 5. However, the 4500 was not really usable in the surrounding ground unless the gain was lowered to 1. At Gain of 1, it still picked up the test bits but not as clear as Gain on 5 which i felt heard that bit as clear as the 7000. Obviously, testing like this is not the same as testing undug targets but unless one machine handles air tests better it seemed a reasonable way to compare machines. From what I saw it made up my mind that its time to get rid of the 4500 and buy a7000. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhaseTech Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Hey Jin, how small were the small nuggets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Hi Nenad, 0.27 gram was the small one. I dug a thin trench about 2" deep gradually getting deeper to around 10" deep. We moved the gold deeper until we felt the zed would recognize it as a target if we were detecting the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I have gold specimens a GPX can’t detect, period. That the GPZ detects at several inches. What percent more is several inches over 0 inches? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Phrunt, my 4500 picked up the 0.27gram bit easily just nowhere as deep as the 7000 did. I think from memory i found this bit using the 18" Elite coil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik_in_Mission Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 Hey Guys, I have another question: How much would you pay maxium for this used GPZ 7000 from 2015 updated with the newest software, in very good condition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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