Steve Herschbach

Looks awesome Dilek, thanks for posting! The new Makro KRUZER series includes the new 14 kHz Makro Kruzer, the 61 khz Makro Gold Kruzer, and the Makro Multi Kruzer, which can run at 5 kHz, 14 kHz, or 19 khz. Series features: IP68 Rating - Up to 5 meters (16.4 feet) waterproof! Advanced Beach Mode Proven Discrimination & Unmasking Ability Especially In Iron Infested Sites Ultra Past REcovery Speed In 3-Tone Mode New! E.U.D. (Extra Underground Depth) Function Suited For All Terrain Including Salt Water Beaches Enhanced EMI Suppression Six (6) Search Modes Adjustable Target ID Depth Lightweight 1.4 kg / 3.0 lbs 2.4 Ghz Wireless Headphones Included! Built-In LiPo Battery Offers Up To 19 Hours Of Operation Ability To Power / Charge The Battery With A USB Powerbank Optional Waterproof AA Battery Pack Five (5) Optional Coils To Choose From Including A Concentric Coil Online Firmware Update Capability The new Makro Kruzer series will begin shipping in February 2018.

Makro has just introduced a new lineup of metal detectors waterproof to five meters (16.4 feet) that includes a new prospecting model - the Gold Kruzer. The Gold Kruzer is no doubt based on the earlier 56 kHz Makro Gold Racer but at a slightly higher frequency. The Gold Kruzer only weighs 3.0 lbs and runs for up to 19 hours off the built-in rechargeable LiPo battery. The stock coil is a 5.5" x 10" DD coil with optional coils available. The Makro Gold Kruzer comes with 2.4 Ghz wireless headphones and has online firmware update capability. The new Gold Kruzer will sell for $749.00 Update 6/15/18 - Detailed Review of Makro Gold Kruzer by Steve Herschbach ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The new Makro KRUZER series also includes the new 14 kHz Makro Kruzer as well as the Makro Multi Kruzer, which can run at 5 kHz, 14 kHz, or 19 khz. Series features (not all apply to Gold Kruzer): IP68 Rating - Up to 5 meters (16.4 feet) waterproof! Advanced Beach Mode Proven Discrimination & Unmasking Ability Especially In Iron Infested Sites Ultra Past REcovery Speed In 3-Tone Mode New! E.U.D. (Extra Underground Depth) Function Suited For All Terrain Including Salt Water Beaches Enhanced EMI Suppression Six (6) Search Modes Adjustable Target ID Depth Lightweight 1.4 kg / 3.0 lbs 2.4 Ghz Wireless Headphones Included! Built-In LiPo Battery Offers Up To 19 Hours Of Operation Ability To Power / Charge The Battery With A USB Powerbank Optional Waterproof AA Battery Pack Five (5) Optional Coils To Choose From Including A Concentric Coil Online Firmware Update Capability Makro Kruzer Color Brochure The new Makro Kruzer series will begin shipping in February 2018. Click for larger view...

I was hoping you would chime in JP - great explanation, thanks! I have yet to observe the famous DD blade as sold by marketers actually exhibit itself on a coil. Just take a DD coil and a coin and run some brief air tests (see article below under heading "Target Size"), and except for tiny objects the blade thing is largely myth. All the DD thing does is cause the electromagnetic field to elongate and become a little shallower compared to a mono coil (or concentrics on VLF detectors). The field of a mono coil as defined by a coin finding the extremity of the field is more like a basketball cut in half - a bowl. A DD coil is more like a U.S. football cut in half lengthwise - an elongated bowl. You can only see this on a VLF detector running in all metal or pinpoint mode. Discrimination modes reduce most signals to a simple beep, and a VLF concentric will indeed beep more in the middle of the coil whereas the beep generated by a DD coil elongates along the overlap. The rest of the electromagnetic field is there however, it is simply being hidden by the single report nature of disc modes of operation. This article below is about induction balance detectors and some of the diagrams are exagerrated but it provides a decent overview of coils, electromagnetic fields, and eddy currents. Excerpt from "Modern Metal Detectors" by Charles Garrett

It's not impossible that the coil has an issue. One reason Tesoro stopped making that version was difficulty getting reliable performance. I had one myself for my old Vaquero and it balanced fine in all metal. Part of the problem may be that Tesoro detectors and coils are tuned as a matched set. If may be that returning the coil and detector to the factory could result in better operation is they were tuned up together; I would almost bet on it. However, that might mess the machine up for use with other coils. I sent one of these coils to White's to see if it could be mated to the MXT and Dan Geyer was unable to do it for the reason mentioned above (White's coils are not part of the tuned circuit in the way Tesoro coils are).

Yes, what Chase said. You turn off the "Salt Mode" by exiting "Beach Mode". The two names would be interchangeable, and "Salt Mode" might actually be better because it really is for saltwater beaches, not freshwater beaches. In order or "hotness" : Hottest (more sensitive to small targets, hot ground/rocks, and saltwater) 1. Gold Mode 2. Park Mode 2 and Field Mode 2 3. Park Mode 1 and Field Mode 1 4. Beach Mode 1 5. Beach Mode 2 Least Hot (less sensitive to small targets, hot ground/rocks, and saltwater)

Great post Cipher. I would caution most people when looking into this to not let the marketers mess with you. It has never mattered how many frequencies are transmitted. It is about what information is received and how it is processed. All VLF detectors are creating a sine wave effect with variants such as square wave and triangular wave. The wave itself has things happening in specific sequential sequences. The combined signal is received and demodulated into components which are processed/compared. Simultaneous versus sequential is another red herring in that regard. Digital processing takes place in steps and is by definition sequential though parallel processing is possible. This all happens in microseconds and is for all human purposes simultaneous. And none of it actually matters really. All that matters is how detectors perform and act in the field. I have a V3i myself and so I am not trying to refute the basic argument here - it is a great detector for all the reasons you mention. It's just that delving too far under the hood is like trying to second guess what's going on in that brain box in my truck and how that affects the fuel mileage. I can try and divine the programming and how it is done - or I can just go for a drive and check what my fuel mileage is. The same with BBS versus FBS versus V3i etc - it is far easier to use and compare them in the real world to get useable conclusions then will ever be discovered by reading the patents. Ultimate White's V3i Information Guide

Welcome to the forum! Personally I consider the GPZ 7000 to be too sensitive to tiny items especially very small ferrous trash to be useful for most coin and relic detecting. I think the GPX 5000 is a better choice myself.

Questions asked and re-clarified are never a problem. The way I said it was unclear to you and may be unclear to others. It could have been clearer and now it is!

No, the WM08 IS NOT waterproof. I was referring to using the Minelab adapter with the detector when the detector pod is submerged - says so right in the post. The WM08 and the detector have the same waterproof fitting only so that the same headphones and adapters will work on both.

Searcher Magazine Facebook Page Minelab tester Gordon Heritage is on the cover so I assume he does the review?

Yes, any 1/8” to 1/4” stereo adapter should work as long as the 1/8” end is small enough to fit down into the hole and seat properly - again, note that o-ring at the bottom of the 10 mm hole. It could push an overlarge end up and out just enough to keep some jacks from fully clicking in and seating properly. The Minelab adapter creates a waterproof junction and is a good option for people who wade and submerge the detector pod. Just keep the 1/4” end high and dry (shoulder mount?) and any headphones can be plugged in.

People want to know what they are buying into, and coils are part of the ecosystem. Equinox will look like less of a bargain if the coils are priced like CTX coils. X-Terra type coil pricing fits more with the retail price of the detectors, but nothing says that is what Minelab is going to do. I therefore understand why this is a question that is tops on many peoples minds.

Nails are not much problem for me. I hate flat tin type steel - old rusted cans, flattened cans, round ends of cans, can fragments, parts of old steel roofing, etc. Some of that stuff sounds great on most any detector. BBS does well on rejecting it and FBS also to a lesser extent but at the cost of serious masking. Equinox opens it back up as far as the masking goes but then flat steel becomes more an issue again. There is quite the balancing act trying to reject ferrous while not masking everything. I wish I could say Equinox magically shuts it all up while masking nothing, but I don’t think that’s possible. It’s still a balancing act.

The rubber dongle that attaches the plug when not in use is also a soft plastic that acts as a wide sealing washer against the large shiny flat metal surface. Along with the o ring at the bottom it actually is a double seal. And as I noted even if water got past, it can’t get into the guts of the detector.

vfp7 is basically repeating what Monte says in his Setup Sheet for the Nail Board Test. If anyone does not do it exactly as described it would invalidate the test. Here is my version of the test, includes hot rocks, flat steel, etc....

Tom nailed it - you can use any mode you want for freshwater hunting. Beach Mode negates saltwater but loses some small gold sensitivity in the process. Beach Mode is also worth consideration as a “last resort” mode to deal with extremely mineralized ground.

Note the o-ring in the bottom of the headphone attachment “hole”...

I need to dig into these more because I am told they can easily pair with cell phones and music players. Makes sense if it's all standard aptX and one of the advantages of being on that format, even if it is a hair slower.

I will always wonder how many feet I missed that one by - not many. I have never found a pound plus nugget myself but I have been lucky enough to be around when several were found. Steve's lunker I would have passed by on my first detecting trip to Ganes because it was where a lot of the large gold was found sitting on top in earlier decades. I have a picture of me proudly displaying a 3/4 oz nugget (or something like that) when that three pounder was somewhere a stone's throw nearby.

It is going to be fun to watch. Despite what people think I don't have a horse in the race. Once the Equinox ships I plan on sitting back and the chips can land where they may. Lots of great detectors out there and whatever people decide is best for them sure does not bother me at all. I'm just looking forward to being able to go detecting for no other reason than to find stuff again.

Yeah, that is an excellent test. It shows one way the Equinox will excel over the BBS and FBS detectors. The real grudge match will of course be Equinox and Deus.

No, the WM08 has a recessed waterproof 1/8” jack identical to that on the detector itself. A special adapter is needed to connect either the detector or the WM08 to 1/4" headphones. Aftermarket adapters may also work but will not be waterproof at the junction.

Yeah, they don’t make those anymore. The new ones are black

Oops, duh, ignore that confused old guy post . The Equinox 800 carton contents photo the I POSTED MYSELF does show the Equinox 800 comes with two cables - problem solved! However, the 1/8” To 1/4” headphone adapter is not included, the source of my confusion. Now you Equinox 600 owners, the very first accessory you buy had better be a spare charger cable. Since I am an Alaskan I could probably make one with enough baling wire and duct tape but it would be really ugly and take some time. Better to just have a spare.

I am sure there is a small army of YouTube folks just waiting for the opportunity to boost their viewer numbers by posting videos about the hottest detector of the year. The nail board test will probably figure prominently. Since any knowledgeable person can manipulate the test to show whatever they want and many others don’t know how to tune the detectors they test you will have the opportunity to choose whatever end result pleases you most from the wide range that will be available. See, even I am cynical about detector testers! My Testing Methodology