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If this wasn’t meant to be personally offensive, it was a poor choice of words.

I was careful to say that it hasn’t happened here on this forum, though I have not posted much here either. When it happens, it is local social media pages. I sure didn’t mean to imply it happens to everyone all the time. I’m not sure what the point of your post is other than to take the long way around calling me a liar. A rare occurrence it may be, but it has happened to me. I have a track record here, and I’m not known for wild dirt fishing tales or exaggeration. It’s just not even the kind of person I am. I’ll leave it at that.

It is, and in the end everything will find its place. We just don’t like anything that reflects poorly on us or our hobby. Those of us who stick with this are good people who provide valuable services to the public. We rescue history, we put recyclable metals back in circulation, we clean up bodies of water, parks and playgrounds where someone could step on something and children could stumble into dangerous items. Where we can, we return valuable property back to their owners when we could just as well keep them. There’s an integrity within us that gets more joy out of reuniting someone with something they lost. There are some bad apples out there for sure, but they tend not to frequent metal detecting forums and lose interest in a hobby that requires attributes they don’t have.

Ideally I would love to share all my finds. In 10 years I’ve found a lot of nice things, and even some rare and valuable things. Inevitably once I post rare and valuable historical items I come under local pressure to donate them with the argument that “history belongs to us all.” There’s a part of me that agrees with that statement. There’s another part of me that thinks history belongs to those who seek it. I put in the work to seek it out and retrieve it, and I should be able to be the one to share it until I choose to pass it on how I see fit. We share our finds in part to share history with others in our own way. We become attached to those items and proudly display them. The last thing many of us want are entities laying claim to our finds, guilt tripping us or suggesting that it now belongs to everyone, and keeping it is somehow wrong. Yet this has happened to me enough times (never here) that I feel burned for sharing anything. I just wonder if any of you have had the same experience. It’s a kind of catch 22 where both arguments have merit. Regardless, I follow the law. There’s no crime here in holding on a valuable historical find. If it answers some kind of important question or fills in an important gap, then I’d err more on the side that it belongs to everyone. Either way we should have some time to enjoy the spoils. That’s my thought for the day.

The major UI difference between the Deus II and Legend are layered menu vs having all features available in one screen. The latter does seem to be easier to master for most people, at least from a navigational standpoint. I’m fine with either UI as long as features aren’t being compromised for lack of space to display them. The most difficult part of Deus II for me was learning to navigate to the features I want to change. Not having a Legend I can’t compare the two beyond that, but I’m not a person who thinks Nokta Makro can’t come close enough to Deus II performance to be a true competitor for only $635. Clearly they can from what I’m seeing and hearing even though they didn’t begin with the Deus II in mind. What made the major difference for me is the Deus’ legendary iron performance, the dive rating giving me enough depth to use my Hookah setup to the fullest, the ergonomics and aesthetic look of the machine, ability to make a Deus II Lite backup from the puck, and the consistent evolution of XP platforms. The updates never stop with XP. I also like the idea of future cell phone app integration and development for the platforms. To me those things were worth the difference. I could just own them both, but only if I were gaining something I don’t already have. So far, I haven’t seen anything I don’t already have in the Equinox and Deus II. I would just be buying it because I want to own them all just to have them. I keep a close eye on Legend nonetheless, waiting for that one feature that pushes me over the edge into purchase.

As long as we are dealing with true simultaneous multifrequency a spectrograph should be feasible. Last we heard from Carl he had stated that the Equinox was simultaneous, rather than sequential. I’m assuming the same is true of Legend. Sequential would be trickier, but even FBS machines have a hidden menu with spectrograph. At least there are pictures of it in the wild. Minelab purportedly doesn’t agree that it’s a useful or reliable tool. But you do have me to wondering now if there isn’t something else stopping others from implementing it and what it would be. Once used, it becomes clear that it is a useful discrimination feature. And multifrequency pinpoint no motion is amazing in commingled targets.

I’m not yet a Legend user, and not sure I will be, but I own several multifrequency machines, and so I have a request for the next generation. Give us a multichannel spectrograph displaying each frequency to target reaction. It’s one thing Whites had right, and if you ask anybody what they did like about the V3i and VX3 that spectrograph tops the list. To do this you’d have to give away what frequencies are actually running simultaneously, but frankly forgoing features like this to hide this information would just be silly anyway as it is fairly easily obtained by Geotech and others. By now we know these machines aren’t using every frequency available all the time and the real magic is in the processing algorithms. Secrecy there is understandable, and still leaves plenty of room for marketing. Even if the powers that be were to insist the frequencies remain secret a spectrograph could still be utilized by simply labeling the spectral lines “high” and “low.” Anyway, that’s my two cents. I believe it’s a very useful discrimination tool, and it need not be married to complexity, nor presented in color to be effective. I wish it weren’t too late to incorporate it into Legend because it would set it over the top. I imagine it was because it wasn’t requested often enough, but it’s a fair point to ask how many people have used a $1500 V3i to know they want a spectrograph and what it does. Relatively few know what they are missing.

You’ll be surprised what you can learn and how quickly. Things like this always look daunting at first. But there’s a saying “how do you eat an elephant?” And the answer is “one piece at a time.” One day you’ll look back at how overwhelming it was and find it amusing.

These kinds of bugs popping up from one update to the next is getting under my skin and the reason I haven’t updated my Deus 2 since I got it. Some issues are minor annoyances and some are major pains in the ass. Either way I want no part of it. Hopefully a nice clean update will be forthcoming as I do like some of the new features. Get it together XP. You’re a top tier manufacturer now.

I was interested in this coil for a while as well, but if it’s anything like the 11”x13” for Deus 1 we can expect it to make the machine nose heavy, perhaps even a little sloppy when extended, and very little if any depth advantage. I notice that it’s an often resold item with exactly those complaints. It seems to offer more in the way of coverage than anything. Might be nice for the beach provided you replace the lower stem with something less pliable.

I just received mine today. I like that you don’t have to disassemble the Deus to fit. Just pack and go. It does seem well constructed and very well done aesthetically too. I feel like $60 was a deal on this, and something every XP user should have. If I didn’t already have such a nice pouch I’d have bought that too. Very happy with the 240 though.

CB stands for Composite Board. It’s indicated inside the battery door. There were apparently circuitry improvements in the CB version. Monte could tell us more about it, being a sort of historian for these machines. I remember reading his extensive posts on this detector when I had one.

Couldn’t have said it better myself. I find myself almost frustrated by the lack of response from ML. I do wonder what their engineers and personnel think of how far the competition has come in so short a time span. I had no plans to buy the Legend, but I’m more tempted now than ever.

A third frequency option, sounds intriguing. I wonder how it would be weighted, and if it will be implemented in each mode or just selected modes. I haven’t taken the plunge into Legend yet, already having the equinox and Deus 2, but I’m getting more and more tempted as time goes on and getting a picture of what the final product will be.

Here’s a few more notable finds from the same lot.

It does seem rare and fairly valuable. It’s occasional finds like this that make it all worth it. It’s odd to find so many military relics from so many different periods on the same lot, but this is the most exciting yet. The Simplex TID goes to 99. I’m not sure yet what the alloy is. The back is missing it’s pin, which sucks, but I marked the spot I pulled it from so I can go back over it. It would be nice to find that too.

They are back in stock at Big Boys Hobbies as of this morning if you’re looking for one. I just ordered mine.

I have a pretty sizable lawn to detect on, on slow days. It sits right on top of what was the Upper Fort during the revolutionary war. I’ve pretty much cherry picked all the high tones out of this lawn, so I’m now at mid tones. I got one today at a TID of 57, and singing. At 8” I found this little badge with my Simplex Im not entirely sure what it is, but this lawn is good for producing military relics, like a WW1 military dog tag, WW2 Airmen visor pin and numerous musket balls.

All Deus 2 compatible accessories are selling like hot cakes, going out of stock everywhere, and the Mi-6 is no different. It is either sold out at major dealers like KellyCo, Serious Detecting, and Big Boys Hobbies or seeing a price increase from where it has retailed at $159.95 to as high as $199.95 on eBay and Amazon.

This has me dubious about the Deus 11”x13” coil as well. It is not uncommon to see an awful lot of these for sale and complaints that they gained no depth over the 11” round, only coverage, which made the unit nose heavy. The Deus II is one unit I would love to see an actual 13” round coil for, but I’m guessing we will never see it. It looks like all they have in store for us is another 11”x13”

I tried VirtualBox and Windows 10. Got no recognition of the remote at all, any which way

This explains why we see so little depth gain with coils like 13”x17” and 12”x15” over their 11” round counterparts. The dimension that matters to depth rather than coverage is only 1”-2” larger than stock. So when someone asks on the equinox for example, which is deeper, the 12”x15” Minelab or the 15” round Coiltek, it should be the 15” round depending on the target as well of course

Good information, thank you! I’m having trouble and this might just be why.

I wouldn’t base my Deus II confidence on Paystreak. His dig it all methodology is better suited to First Texas single frequency or any old beep and dig units. He doesn’t like SMF, and runs all the latest and greatest SMF machines in single frequency mode digging any two way signal he can find. He believes SMF creates more problems than it solves. He also doesn’t like the complexity that would allow you to learn to cherry pick. He’s an entertaining watch at times though. Particularly his commentary on his “struggling” with the Deus II, yet “smashing it out of the park” and “spanking coins out of the ground” with the Legend, both in single frequency beep and dig setups. I can’t relate to “struggling” with the Deus II so far in such a configuration.

Sure it’s nice if all can run in the same or similar settings, but in a test like this we aren’t trying to make them similar. We are trying to highlight their advantages in a particular environment, i.e. what is the deepest setup in THIS environment. For his soil, doing a depth test, he used the deepest settings. In other tests gold mode was unusable in that environment. There will always be those to who the information gleaned will not apply and other settings would be advisable. But if I want to know which machine is deepest in a very low mineralized environment this might just be helpful, particularly where one was running handicapped and at the very least keeping up, or at best if you accept these were the best settings for THIS environment, leading.