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Thats a really good hunt, love the lock.

Tejon is my first choice in old iron infested properties with the concentric coil also. I like how the breaks are soft and don't completely eliminate the target so I can use that as if it was a tone. Key break points I use is iron line, nickel, tab and line above tab depending on the trash I may run into. As an all metal machine it doesn't have the speed of modern machines but the all metal is invaluable when further checking targets and pin pointingl

Check the edge and you should see laminate. Usually a fine wire brush will clean clad up enough to check

Recently my old RTG sand scoop started to fall apart. Served me well but I put the bugger through hell and then some. I have a regular scoop but it's big, wide and I prefer the basket type as they shake out easier. There was a thread about scoops and Michael pointed out Boarderline Engineering so thought I would give them a try. The scoop is absolutely built to last with impecable quality and attention to detail. It should work well around the lakes and rivers here as well as the beach. I bought the heavier duty all stainless as the lightweight ones can bend too easy getting rocks and gravel out of the way. Probably be the last scoop I'll need to buy.

Much nicer than calling it Legend II and selling it to people as an entirely new machine 🙂

Why the upgrades?

Not sure if you tried this but when I hunt with the Tejon with either the stock concentric or if I need to cover more ground that has less iron concentration with the 10x12 widescan dd, I will set primary disc to break on the iron line. I can then use the edge of detection or nose of dd to get that signature crackle that tells me it's iron. Other easy indicator is if target sounds short in disc mode but sounds much larger and smoother in all metal you know it's a big piece of iron. No matter what machine people swing and no matter what coil size or type it is easy to forget that metal types overlap in range ie aluminum can be from iron to silver, brass can be close to copper and as low as a pull tab. Even thin brass buttons that are deep can be towards the can slaw and foil range. I always try to get an understanding of the area I am hunting and work as particular depth. Old sites it is good to pull a piece of large iron like an oxen shoe and make note of how deep it was as the majority if not all of your coins in that area will be less than that shoe. Sense of depth you can better judge the modern top trash.

Should be fine. If you saw hair line cracks it would be an issue. Copper should be well within that epoxy and epoxy looks like it was actually over filled.

9" Ultimate is a great coil on the apex.

Had a bad coil out of the box and Garrett replaced it without any hassles right away. Wasn't weeks later and gobs of back and force through emails. Machine does get bit noisy in iron infested grounds and trashy areas you really need the small coil to be able to follow the audio because it is so short. Ground balancing is crutial on that machine as it is surprisingly sensitive even with the Reaper coil. Very easy to run it too hot and not realize it. Wet sand and even black sand it does incredibly well. Reaper coil runs whisper quiet in the wet and has a fair amount of depth. I think if they ever put the AT Pro audio on that machine it would fly off the shelves. Lot of bang for the buck.

Nice finds! High trash areas use smallest coil you have and work slow. Overlap your swings and keep it in GB to prevent any falsing. Can't blast your way through with a big coil and high gain or you will most likely get overwhelmed with the noise and miss targets.

Though I only have the Gold Racer and don't do any prospecting the 2 machines have iMask that does help with hot rocks. Running in All Metal if you hit a negative hot rock you will have a bouncy signal like a reverse roll. You will see ID's peak in high 90's that wrap. I simply GB on that high point then when past the rock will GB again. I would try All metal mode without tracking to start. If the machines really jumpy then drop the gain down a little. Get a lot of spikes in iron range use disc mode and use imask as last resort if hot rocks are too bad. Not sure if that helps. HH

Coils for the Legend? They are marked as LG##. In general the narrow smaller coils do very well in high trash areas and don't sacrafice that much in depth. Depends what targets your looking for and ground conditions.

Do you need to do a reset on the machine to be able to use those coils?

Good book to pick up is Carl's and Georges "Inside the Metal Detector" found on Amazon.

That is true that there is no Old Clad because clad by definition is laminated metals. Nickels, Pennies and even Zinc Pennies are not clad either. Just many people equate clad as lost pocket change.

Old clad, 100+ years from now zincolns might be sought after 🙂 Heres a few from today. Small button, cap and top to old tube maybe some lotion or paint. has a lead or pewter with brass screw cap, large cent (no readable date), another possible kg half penny but also in tough shape, 43 war nickel (first find of the day) and a nie 1773 seated dime. Used the Tejon with 8x9 concentric, handled the small iron like a champ, good targets had nice tones and easy to pick out even the dime that was 9" down.

The white is lead oxide. Older they are the whiter they become usually. I don't bother cleaning them, just put them in a little baggy for storage.

As far as we know it's never been detected 👍

Snuck out to a permission nearby for couple hours and snagged some old clad and a nice silver spoon. Not shown was a couple small flat buttons and a buckle. All finds go to the owner of the property as she collects the stuff. Want to thank Valens Legacy. Took that Pentagram pendant and turned it onto a keychain. Guess it does bring good luck, who wudda thunk? :)

Not a bad thing to have an external battery pack system that mounts under the cuff. I think it is a bad idea to have a battery inside the control box for bunch of reasons... Noise, Heat, Difficult to replace and can't be swapped out on the field if they run out. Using a pack system allows for larger batteries with longer run times, user can swap them out in the field and better balance of the machine overall.

Park dates back to late 1800's. Much of it was redone over the years and natural landscape has been covered with fill from different areas. At one end the fill that was brought in is better than 15' to level the grounds. There is old stuff there but depths are mixed and finds very scattered as it is just fill. Majority of clad I pulled is 70's and newer and all within the can line. I did turn that pentagon into a keychain, went back to see if I could find more of the band but no luck. Guess the mowers got the rest of it 😞 That scale... it's vintage..... made in Japan not China haha. All that stuff on it was from the boat blue I used for flyrods. Scale is still spot on in accuracy.

Machine was less important in the hunt than the coil choice. I prefer smaller coils in parks. Been using the 5.5x9 on Multi Kruzer. Makes a nice fast and accurate coin shooter in trashy areas. Will clean that Pentagram up and bring it with me to find the rest of the watch band if it's still there and the mowers didn't suck them up.

Hit the local park for some fresh air and came across a pewter pentagon pendant with what looks like an onyx in the middle but could be black glass. Continuing on I picked up a piece of watch band, chucked it in the pouch along with the clad. I then hit another area and found a nice silver chain with a St. Chris pendan 925. Got hope to sort through my finds and for kicks checked the watch band. Turns out to be 10kg. Weird part is the weight and that I found it right after the pendant hahah.

Sad day for the industry. Best wishes to his family friends.