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all the detectors are bad on big rusty steel at depth .. especially when the steel has a ring shape . A pinpointer with a discrimination like the ML profind 35 or the Quest Xpointer Max can help to id the iron without having to extract or even to see the target
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I agree, the Orx and the Deus2 WS6 MASTER are in the same price range ( Orx 22 HF WSA 799€ , Deus2 WS6 899€ ) . If I had to choose I would go for the D2 without a moment's hesitation ... The D2 is more performing for coin/relic hunting ; it goes deeper , it has a SQUARE audio , the multitone can be adjusted up to FULLTONES , etc .. Unless you need the small 9X6 coil which is only available on the Orx/Deus1 ..
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No it is not a complex machine . The only thing to know is to start with the GENERAL nr1 factory mode , this even for an experienced user . It is what I did when I received my D2 btw , spending a few hours with GENERAL to learn the D2 audio before trying other modes ... Of course a total beginner will need a longer time to learn GENERAL ( a few weeks or months ? ) than an experienced user who already knows the D1 for example . Long story short GENERAL is a good school for learning the D2 to my opinion ... ?
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You did a very good choice , the D2 outperforms the competition in terms of weight/mechanical ergonomy and it has excellent electronics as you will see , you cant go wrong with this detector ... I would suggest to begin with the GENERAL nr1 mode to get used to the detector , it is the easiest mode to learn for beginners . After a few weeks/months , try other modes like SENSITIVE which is much more reactive/performing in the irons . Personally I prefer the SQUARE audio to PWM , but its up to you to decide which audio you prefer ... Happy Hunting in Sweden ?..
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I should have said that SMF detectors have very similar depth performances in clean soils . The differences are more on separation/recovery in the irons and the mechanical ergonomy . Also some are better for gold prospecting , etc ... It all depends on what you plan to do with your detector ... All my tests for coin/relic hunting in European conditions at Le blog Métaux-Détection (metaux-detection.fr) , French language ..
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Thx Slavomir for the video , I like the Rutus audio , it is very accurate with short signals , I like that ... and It goes deep .. I agree they are important differences between detectors , not only in terms of electronics/depth separation performance but also in terms of mechanical aspects like weight/ergonomy etc .. Back to FisherSari question . Personally I have been testing VLF detectors during 10+ years now , almost all brands , and yes they are often important differences between them . Just like with cars or digital cameras .. And some are better than the others for your kind of hunting
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I have only found 4 gold artefacts during 24 years detecting : one coin , two rings and a pendant. Which means an average of one gold every 5 or 6 years . Then I dont expect to find a gold with my new D2 before at least one or two years ... But sometimes silver is better than gold ...
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Or use a detector without screen . I use a Deus1 WS4 Lite since 2013 and now a Deus2 WS6 . The only ( l ( small ) screen I have is on the headphones on my head . I only look at it when I change the detector settings , rarely in the field btw . The rest of the time I only detect by hear ... No need for VDI numbers as everything from low to high conductivity can be a good target over here ...
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XP Deus 2 Vs Minelab Manticore
palzynski replied to vive equinox's topic in Metal Detector Advice & Comparisons
I doubt he will sell tons of MTCs over here in France , despite all his marketing videos .. The MTC is simply too expensive at 2000€ for the local inland hunters , knowing the current economical situation with the inflation , the increasing heating costs etc .. And knowing that there are many detectors under 1000€ that do the job very well , especially in fields where the targets are close to the surface and dont need ultra high depth performance .. -
A 1200 Years Old Silver Found With The Deus2
palzynski replied to palzynski's topic in XP Deus II Forum
Right this D2 WS6 Master + 9" coil is a killer ? ; ultra light , excellent "cristalline" SQUARE audio , deeper than the D1 , great separation in the iron trash ... Yes it is magical ? ... We have older coins like Roman coins over here . But for some reason the Carolingian coins are my preferred ones , perhaps because they are the very first coins of the medieval ages .. They definitely have something special , and they are rare ... -
Yesterday I decided to go to a field near a small town where I have already been a few times . The soil is sandy and moderately mineralized , it is very easy to dig here I like this area .. I will use always the same settings for the Deus2 , SENSITIVE 5 TONES , SQUARE audio . This is the best mode for my kind of hunting and I am experienced with it now .. First signal and first coin , a Double Tournois from Henri IIII , 1598 ... A good start .. A little corroded but a nice find. A few minutes later , an other old coin , but this one is both worn and damaged . But this is interesting because both coins have been found in a relatively small area and I decide to stay in this area instead of going further in the field like I did the previous times .. As usual I find 1st WW trash , schrappnells , bullets , casings etc ... Detecting over here requires patience because of all this modern trash . Now I have a medium tone clean signal , it takes a little time to locate the target because it is a thin one ... Wow its a silver , a very old silver , a Carolingian coin dating from the 9th century !!! . ?✌️ ? ? Bad luck the coin is damaged and unfortunately breaks when I try to clean it . I am not surprised because these coins ( around 1,5g ) are very thin and fragile . Anyway what a find .. Awesome... I have only found 2 of them during 23 years of detection , this is my 3rd Carolingian coin ??... I like these coins , and it is difficult to imagine that this one has been waiting during 1200 years before bringing back to life ... I will spend one more hour in the field , with more classical finds but nothing as spectacular as this silver coin. Btw I have tried DEEP HC a few minutes but I found it a little too slow for detecting in this field with all this iron trash. A few pics : The field : A double tournois , Henri IIII , 1598 : The broken Carolingian coin : A medieval coin weight : A few neighbours ?: End of the day , time to go back home : The Carolingian coin after cleaning , Denier , Louis 1er Le Pieux , 814-840 , HLUDOVICUSIMP XPISTIANARELIGIO Thanks to my trusty Deus2 WS6 .. ? :
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Because a 50cm detection depth for a coin is unrealistic ... This is certainly the reason why they have carefully avoided to indicate the depths in the second video ... ?
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Looking fwd for your report .. thanks ...
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Yes a static depth test is not the real world ... btw the targets depth is never indicated in this video , bad luck this is the most important thing .. Then it is impossible to compare their results with others results. Anyway I dont really trust this seller , knowing his continuous obsessive war again XP .. He is not independent and his opinion is biased to say the least ...
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For me it is exactly the opposite , the Minelabs sounds are too slow and elongated especially in the irons , ... The D2 square tones are much more accurate and faster on targets . The D2 square audio is exactly what I was expecting from XP and I dont use the PWM audio . btw I use SENSITIVE 5 TONES SQUARE. From my testing I found 5 TONES to be a little deeper than FULL TONES this is why I prefer to use 5 TONES ..
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Personally , I am happy with 0.71 ... I have no urgency to migrate to a new version , and I will probably wait a little before migrating to the new version when it is available ...
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could you show the entire article with the other modes ? it looks very interesting , thx ...
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I agree . By far the mostly used coil in Europe ( or at least in France ) for inland hunting is the 9" coil ( or equivalent 10X8) , just because of this "ocean of iron" . The 11" is rather used in cleaner areas ( forrests etc ) .. Nobody uses bigger coils over here except beach hunters ..
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Jumping to conclusions and preorders too ... ?
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At 2:50 , Lawrie answers to the depth question : "2 or 3 cms more depth for a target at 30cm depth" . --> This means a 7 to 10% depth improvement . At least Lawrie is honest , there wont be a 50% improvement as implied by the ML marketing hype ... He is an engineer , and an engineer is not a dreamer .. Now lets wait for field tests comparisons because other detectors have deep modes like Deus2 DEEP HC which goes 2 or 3cms deeper than the D2 standard modes .. Curious to see what will be the exact difference between the Mcore and its competitors at the end ...
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I mostly use SENSITIVE 5 tones + SQUARE . GENERAL is too slow for me it doesnt like iron trash. However GENERAL is a good program to start with the D2 .
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New XP Master - Deus II For Half The Price?
palzynski replied to Steve Herschbach's topic in XP Deus II Forum
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New XP Master - Deus II For Half The Price?
palzynski replied to Steve Herschbach's topic in XP Deus II Forum
Sometimes a little tricky . Some settings are on the left , and some others on the right . For example for changing the number of tones you have to use the bottom right button, and for changing to SQUARE the bottom left . I would have preferred everything concening the audio on a single side ... But it is just a matter of getting used to it ... Anyway this Deus2 WS6 MASTER is a great package . Very efficient in the field and fun to use . At a reasonable price . A future best seller to my opinion ...