Norvic

To me gold has kept well ahead of the vehicle price inflation cost that I use, in 1986 it took 50ozs to buy a new 70 Series Toyota Troopcarrier, in 2020 it took 35ozs to buy a new 70 series Toyota Troopcarrier, also the 2020 model is a very much refined model over the 1986 model it has A/C, coils on the front, front and rear diff lock, navigation, electric windows, central locking etc etc. but the same basic body with extra capabilities for the job of getting me to the gold. Thus I believe gold proves it belongs in a well balanced investment portfolio.

WTG Gerry a golden mouth full.

Good Stuff, keen as to get one to try.

Aye that is a con with the hard tough PC, there is more noise from scrubbing even drumming but my 6Ks coil was developing a wee "knock noise" that appears to have gone with the glued on PC cover adding strength without weight. On that note and defending the 6Ks coil I have never got great life out of coils. lets face it they are swung about knocking rocks, roots etc thus short life has always been an acceptable compromise between strength and weight.

PC (Polcarbonate) 0.8mm is the material I use as coil cover glued on with Sikaflex, make sure you rough the PC up to get the adhesive to adhere. Been doing it for years. PC is a tough wear resistant clear plastic sheet, fighter plane canopies are usually made of PC.

Crickey they are going the marketing hard, this old codger will be keen to see how it stacks up.

I was in the process of answering when fortunately JP my Satellite Connection got with it and showed you had replied. Essentially I was answering as you have but you did it much more eloquently, thank you. Garrett lost the plot way back after the A2B, although they attempted with the ergonomic but flimsy no performance gain A3B but Fischer picked that plot up with the ergonomic performing GB2 as did Whites with the GM2 and since ML has lead the world with its VLFs, Pis and ZVT. Something new Garrett or you`ll just repeat you old mistakes and not compete at all, except with second hand MLs.

Many years back at a ML sponsored "sausage" sizzle here in FNQ OZ, roughly around the time of the early ML PIs, essentially what Jasong is explaining above was explained by a ML representative. Gold detectors ML have produced have tackled that problem in increments, some may cynically say at the users expense, of course the user pays for Tech. gains albietly more painful for us because of our relative small consumer base. I see the GPZ probably being the biggest performance gain for its time after the first PIs, because it tackled that noise in a new way, with the GPX6000 tackling that noise in another approach (Geosense??). Further as we who embraced X coils especially their CC coils know, they have given us performance gains again by "quietening" that noise somewhat. Now it appears ML may be again tackling this noise from the coil end. Good exciting stuff and thank you Jasong for ferreting this info out from the mountains of info out there.

For me, to be competitive a new gold detector has to beat the Z/X coil combo and the 6K in performance firstly, and of course be lightweight. I`m fickle and don`t care what Manufacturer or tech. VLF, PI, ZVT or something new, but a wee birdie tells me ML will be that manufacturer and the tech is ZVT. Prove that little birdie wrong Garrett.

I`m an old guy and I concur I`ve had very little detector troubles, after dozens of em, only returned a dead GM2 last century, returned a few coils under warranty and killed many. Build quality falling I don`t see it, every detector I`ve had if I wanted to be negative had a problem to dwell on, but I`ll go for the positive, bar one they all paid for themselves in weight many times over, and I`m not called sandpaper coz I treat em with kid gloves. There ya are cuz ya got this oldie in😉

Free Beer, dancing girls... whoopi... here I come Maggi....

Deathray, love it.... fish every day.... I`m in the process of selling out from anOZ dry goldfield to a move to the coast amongst the fish, only concern is that wet coastal humidity and my gold fever. We reach an age where our driving ability develops limits, limits we don`t have in our younger, drive all night, fish/prospect all day, days. Not going to sell the gold detectors yet just in case.

Now get ya finger out and get a bigun, Barradise early in the morn with moon going down in the west. A golden morn, av a golden day all.

Aye, 8.9 this morn. clear as down on the sea at Barradise.... Ya soaking in it now Paul

Aye the 6Ks top response is a wee deceptive, gives one the mistaken idea it`s a shallow machine but it aint, love to see an Xcoil CC of about 17"plus on it ( if this bloody FNQ grass disappears). AU have you tried switching back to normal rather than difficult over one of those inverted signals? I have on a number of occasions and it mostly reverts to a normal signal (channel switch) if its non-ferrous, much the same as the Z and the other PIs.

KL, nah nah nah, don`t try and put some blame on OZ for The Outback Tanks foreign lingo, I got him straight off the plane from the US on his first downunder trip, well almost straight off the plane, the folks at the airport kindly fed him and tried to locate his chauffeur but they had no idea what he was on about..... Anyway only words it seems that he spoke we understood in FNQ was "burger with the lot" and "beer". Fortunately he writes English otherwise he`d be still at the the Cairns International Airport hands full of burger and beer.

Crikey that`s got me giggling, probably this trip you`ll start betting on a particular fly walking up the pubs wall in the fly Derby.

Crikey I can hear violins.......... in the background behind all the WA tortured moans and groans..... ah no that Outback Tank`s coming back @#%$!&^$%#@ 😉

Suspect your spot on, just maybe they`ll offer the 6K without a coil.

Yeah, I suspect Covids got a bearing on it, coils... well normally ML make solid but not brilliant performing coils (SD 18" rubbish bin lid mono coils excepted) I think the reason then was stated that the fiberglass resin used in that coils manufacture reacted and took out one channel of the PIs. But I`ve had 2 Coiltek PI mono coils fault too, as in MLs case quickly replaced under warranty. Maybe there is more to our mono coils construction than meets the users eye. No doubt Covids thrown a few spanners in our lives other than catching it.

Bloody oath mate.

Now... now... cuz you`d be chasing ya first if it wasn`t for a ML but ya right they had a rep of near perfection, halos slipped a bit maybe they`ll compensate us users by ditching those chips. 🤬

Seem to recall (my recall systems on old fart RAM too!!!) was told initially it was an exclusive club and they`d look after us ..... to give us early adoptees a proper run to clean up before the masses strike but looks like there`s a use by date😉 Its usable still and gets that heavy stuff but the Zs onboard still.

Yeah mate, would have to have another building to house all my detectors if I`d kept them all, have the Z & X coils, GM1000 (use as pointer when swinging big coils), EQ800 and 6K currently and as I`m not using the SDC time someone else did. Note my 6Ks 11" is getting a wee bump sensitive, a glued on PC skid plate seemed to stop it for a month or so but looks like my early lottery win has timed out.

Actually not hard to do GC, hack saw, PVC pipe and ends from hardware store, the SDC CB is very easy to remove and fix, is rugged as, no soldering or alterations to stop one putting back into original case, batteries are just RC LiPo readily available. Another advantage is more stable threshold, I believe the voltage supplied is much more stable and does not depend on the tolerance of the voltage regulator to regulate, not because of lithium batteries used but because there is no longer spring loaded battery connections.