Minelab Vanquish Controls & Display Plus Coils

[Chase Goldman]

55 minutes ago, Ridge Runner said:

Chase

 This kid is really not a kid anymore being he’s in college and this makes the third detector I’ve given him .

 Then I have a want to be Treasure hunter friend that I’ve given two detectors  too . The last one was a Fisher two box but that’s a investment into him .haha

 Chuck 

OK - I thought you were trying to introduce someone to detecting, 

1 hour ago, Steve Herschbach said:

That’s because you keep comparing apples to oranges Chase. Compare the Vanquish to the Ace series and it all makes sense.

All I was saying was for a novice detectorist, 3 tones (like the Ace series) might be more appropriate in Chuck's grandson's case as you have no way of lowering the tones on the 540 without downgrading to the 440. (turns out that was moot for Chuck's adult grandson).  Nevertheless, just a simple tweak on the 540 UI (selectable 3 or 5) tones and a novice detectorist could learn AND grow with the Vanquish 540 and have wireless, etc.  5 tones might be a lot for a novice to take on from a learning curve standpoint, so for lack of a simple tweak, most newbies might find the 440 a better fit which is the Ace 400's direct competition.  ML perhaps missed an opportunity to sway some newbies to the 540 by simply enabling tones to be simplified as a user setting, that's all like the switchable iron bias setting.  Sorry about getting my fruits all mixed up.  I'm always struggling to eat healthier.  

[Steve Herschbach]

I’d rather they tried to educate newbies by including 50 tones on the 540. Forget notching, just run wide open full tones from day one with any detector you get is my advice. If they had full tones on the 540 I’d even consider it but I just can’t detect effectively running anything less as it removes to much audio intelligence.

[Steve Herschbach]

Three and five tones make all targets except ones that fall on the dividing line sound identical. That has a lot to do with why many people struggled with bottle caps with the Equinox. However, many targets, like most (not all) bottle caps and irregular trash produce multiple target id numbers, and 50 tones reveal them for what they are. Ferrous especially will low tone with some high tone spikes. Blocking low tones leaves only the high tone spikes, faking people out. 50 tones reveals oddball ferrous far more effectively. With time even target id numbers become extraneous with 50 tones.

Many people find 50 tones too busy but as far as I am concerned it’s one of the real secrets to taking things to the next level. Imagine listening to music limited to three or five tones versus the full symphony. That’s how I feel about limiting tones.

Most people also run way too much volume. Besides hearing damage, it creates the “barrage of tones” effect. I run volume as low as I can while still being able to hear things. Makes life much more pleasant. Nice thing about Equinox 50 tones is that while the non-ferrous tone volumes are all tied to the main volume control, you can lower the ferrous tone independently, which helps in dense ferrous. I usually lower the ferrous tone volume to 4.

I never take my Equinox out of 50 tones ever, no matter the type of detecting. Now it talks to me and I don’t want to change the language! 

The Vanquish 340 with 50 tones... I would get one for $199. The limited notching would not matter as I would never use that anyway. I have a thing about simplicity... it’s a nice clean machine without extraneous stuff and with 50 tones would suit me fine. They could get rid of the mode button/ notch segments and just have it all metal 50 tones and I would like it. Add wireless and I would love it. Three buttons, on/off, volume, and sensitivity.

[kac]

I hear ya on the tone range. If I use custom tone on my Tejon the audio is flat with just a fade or pop on various targets and flat on pp/am. This is ok when looking for small weak targets like small jewelry or in low trash areas but find myself swapping to the default that in those high trash areas so I can really tell depth, size and target type. Even though the tone range on the Tejon is probably not nearly as wide as the other detectors that range really helps.

I rarely disc when I hunt other than base line iron removal when needed.

[Nuke em]

6 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:

Are you familiar with the Gray Ghost Gold Series with 3.5 mm (1/8") plug?  Rob has them:

https://www.robsdetectors.com/detectorpro-gray-ghost-gold-series-headphones-for-minelab-equinox-series-or-gold-monster-1000/

 

I dont know if the have the same tones as the NDT . I have found that with other Gray Ghost types . 

[Chase Goldman]

3 hours ago, Nuke em said:

I dont know if the have the same tones as the NDT . I have found that with other Gray Ghost types . 

You can get 1/8" plugs and cords for the GG NDTs.  That is what I used for my Tek Delta that had a 1/8" jack and when I was running the Deus Lite setup with just the puck and an audio output adapter so I could use the puck as a visual TID indicator.

[Lacky]

6 hours ago, phrunt said:

eeeekkkk! I live in Park 1 and never changed the tones setting.  Sounds like it's time I take the next step and change to 50 tones, by the end of my football field I'll be used to the tone change.

I'm exactly the same. I originally planned to learn it in 50 tones from the start, but then I just went detecting in stock settings, mostly in park 1 or gold 1 and didn't get around to changing anything. I agree it's probably time to pull up the manual and figure out changing tones and just set them all to 50 and try it for a long while. I should probably scale back the iron bias too, as that is still in stock settings (along with everything else).

[Mike Hillis]

Kind of funny how interested I am in the Vanquish series.   Really looking forward to the release just to get more info.    If its Multi IQ is the same as the EQ600 I'll probably get one.

The thing that really ticked me off with the Xterra was the coil investment.   Just a big money pit.   But if Multi-IQ can give me full range target focus....at a price less than the EQ series, then I think I'm in.

HH
Mike

 

[Bohemia Miner]

Here's the MAP:

340 is $199

440 is $279

540 is $369

540 Pro-Pack is $499