GPZ 8000 Rumors

[flakmagnet]

ML would be crazy to price their customers out of being able to afford (another), price-hiked "advancement." If they dare to use a price point that most can afford they will sell 'way more units and probably make more money in the long run. Also, and perhaps as important, they will earn an increased loyalty from what is now a rather disaffected customer base.

[1515Art]

At the least Minelab should consider if the rumors of a new and improved gpz should ever come to fruition, for a brief period of time consider offering those loyal customers whom trusted in the 40% mantra and believed in them enough to shell out 10K for the new technology only to a certain extent then to have the placer rug pulled out from under us when the price was dropped.

As Was pointed out patch cleaning is drying up and as I’m reading here price has a lot to do with quantity sold and those  of us that paid full price only to have an equal powered lower priced detector kind of speed up the process, I remember reading in one of Steve’s comments and pardon me if I’m misrepresenting he was both surprised and disappointed in how many would she’ll out 10K, add to that even more at 8K. Plinking down 10K only to have it depreciate like my car, cell phone and everything else these days is kind of the path we’ll paved, but of all the things I could pass on buying... new detectors then seem to fall pretty close to the top of my list. 

Another absurdly priced detector would need an olive branch as a shaft, or do things only dreamed of otherwise I’m just fine with the old heavyweight I’m into now, just need to fix the broken swing arm, bungee, get a new skid plate and hmmm, I really believed it when they sort of promised that little coil. 

[LowTide]

Welp......  Looking over their consumer product line, and based on their recent coin machine releases they now have Multi-Freq covered from $200USD to $2.5KUSD.  Not much to be more to be done in that area except for possibly a CTX replacement centered around an Equinox sized mechanical platform.   VLF gold detector they have a recent release, not much to be done there.  So a new GP model OK...that's a singular design project. 

They have a bunch of PHD level physicists and engineers hanging around which I'm sure they'd like to keep busy.  Aside from some possible Military de-mining items, about the only hole I can see in their lineup is a consumer level PI, as opposed to the High End Prospecting units.  A market busting Equinox equivalent PI seems like a pretty fair bet.  And by that I mean weight, waterproof, feature set, and price point.  And anyone who thinks that they don't have PI experience, technology, brainpower, and funding to once again disrupt the market is doing some wishful thinking. 

[mn90403]

As a detectorist with my nugget hat on I look at the 'price' and wonder how many nuggets this will help me find and that should 'pay for it' or what number of ounces I need to find to pay for it.  I bought the latest and greatest nugget detector AND the 'Dog Coil' based upon this premise.  I couldn't 'afford' to be without the best.

Several years later and neither one of these purchases is putting ounces of gold in my poke.  My next purchase will have to be a purchase of pleasure.  It is really frustrating to go out and get a skunk.  I can do that with my present detectors.

The appeal to me of the Xcoil at this point is that it seems to be finding previously unseen gold.  I know some who would say they could see that gold with the standard coil but I'll say that it still the Xcoil appeal.  Minelab will have to appeal to that same sense within me as a nugget detectorist no matter what the price or I'll just keep what I have.

Why would they come out with a new detector that would quickly fail or become another 'dog?'  I doubt they will but we've failed to understand a lack of a smaller coil to extend the life of the 7000 as well so ...

How much tiny and lager gold is left to be found in beaten up patches?  Much less than was there 20 years ago with lesser technology.  I miss the working GPS.

[Steve Herschbach]

The download ability always was intended to be nothing more than a bug fix utility. There was never any Minelab advertising that said it was "infinitely upgradable".

GPZ Update 1

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[flakmagnet]

3 hours ago, LowTide said:

And anyone who thinks that they don't have PI experience, technology, brainpower, and funding to once again disrupt the market is doing some wishful thinking.

I don't see anyone saying anything close to that LowTide…it's precisely because we completely understand that ML does have all those qualities that we see people asking for a detector that, in todays economy, represents an ergonomic and electrical advancement at a price point that we can afford.

A good New Year to you...

 

[Dave63]

New 8000 means? 7000 will be cheap.?

[Norvic]

1 hour ago, mn90403 said:

As a detectorist with my nugget hat on I look at the 'price' and wonder how many nuggets this will help me find and that should 'pay for it' or what number of ounces I need to find to pay for it.  I bought the latest and greatest nugget detector AND the 'Dog Coil' based upon this premise.  I couldn't 'afford' to be without the best.

Several years later and neither one of these purchases is putting ounces of gold in my poke.  My next purchase will have to be a purchase of pleasure.  It is really frustrating to go out and get a skunk.  I can do that with my present detectors.

The appeal to me of the Xcoil at this point is that it seems to be finding previously unseen gold.  I know some who would say they could see that gold with the standard coil but I'll say that it still the Xcoil appeal.  Minelab will have to appeal to that same sense within me as a nugget detectorist no matter what the price or I'll just keep what I have.

Why would they come out with a new detector that would quickly fail or become another 'dog?'  I doubt they will but we've failed to understand a lack of a smaller coil to extend the life of the 7000 as well so ...

How much tiny and lager gold is left to be found in beaten up patches?  Much less than was there 20 years ago with lesser technology.  I miss the working GPS.

MN, as you know I`m a very happy X coil user thus I wouldn`t hesitate recommending them to a user but as you appear disappointed that you have not paid for your current Z and its standard coils, I really do not see a X coil changing that, sure it will get you more gold because of it being of a size to give better access plus the performance gain but not to pay the way under your current "nugget hat". Way I see it you either accept the detector and coil purchases will never be paid for with finds or you find new patches.ie. Enjoy it as a hobby as a lot answered in your "paid for ?" thread or get serious and become a prospector rather then a fossicker, but now days in OZ that takes a lot of time swinging and dedication, in the US buh buggered if I know. 

I suspect that those users that answers show they have paid consistently through the years for their gold detectors with gold finds are all prospectors. My reply may appear somewhat arrogant  but as I`ve found previously you can take it, now I want to hear in the future of virgin patches you`ve found, get up off your ass and prospect.…………….

[flakmagnet]

Norvic, Happy New Year first of all. I would not call myself a prospector by any stretch. If a fossicker is an amateur who loves the unknown, who knows the best part of the day is the early morning because anything is possible, who has been lucky enough to be repaid for hard work and earnest learning by a few nuggets and a few good friends, then I'm your man. Hope all is well.