LE.JAG Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, TerryinHawaii said: LE.JAG, in this video after you have pin pointed the object. I see your foot raising up and then you have the object in your hand. you talk about the buttonI don't see it with the mud on the surface i hear itand I point with the disc and the tip of the foot ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Translation problems. I see what Terry means. In the video it appears you are lifting your leg up as if you have somehow picked the ring up with your toes. You do not appear to bend over at all, so in the video it looks like your are using your leg and your booted foot to somehow pick the ring up and put it in your hand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LE.JAG Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 ok, indeed I did not understandwhen i see the ring appearwe just see the sliceI call the guy who was with meand to show him, I kick water on the ring which comes out better from the sandTerry, I'm starting on videoI'm already having a hard time doing them, if in addition I had to fake themI think I would be too bad to get there ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringmoney Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 ??? I can clearly see the ring in the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LE.JAG Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Yes, but I understand what Terry is saying (I saw your mp)my camera is fixed in ventral, on my caseand when I bend down each time to pick up the targetit leaves the field of vision ...but, I prefer like that // in ventralit's too complicated and heavy on the head 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palzynski Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 HI , it is always the same with detection measurements , they are very subjective if done on the field with approximate measurement tools. If you want to have an accurate idea of the performance of a machine , you must test it on static dedicated bed tests , with always the same conditions , and not on the field because the conditions ( hygrometry ) can change depending on the season. We have discussed on this with El Nino and Alexandre in an other discussion on this forum , see below . On my own test ( a big box filled up with ground ) I think I have an accurate idea of the max depth of a VLF machine. I have tested a dozen of VLF detectors since several years using always the same bed tests , and actually the max depth is always the same around 12 inches on a big coin say 10grams using a 12inches coil size. This test is very reliable and repeatable. It would be very easy for me to test the AQ on this bed test , I would evaluate the difference between a VLF machine and the AQ in a few minutes ... Oh yes I have also a box filled with sand mixed with salt water to reproduce the see beaches conditions , I mean the French ones, not the volcanic sands like in Hawai ... So if somebody wants to send me an AQ for measurements , do not hesitate … ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick K - First Member Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Alexandre has posted photos of his own extensive test beds including with the ability to flood with seawater. Lots of videos are coming. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewcon4414 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I suspect we will get a LOT of opinions on depth when this machine comes out. Best gauge is what the guy using it feels....... not what someone else is telling you from a different location...... or country. I say FEELS....... because there are a LOT of factors that play into depth.... settings, conditions, target..... and more times than not the user. We have air tests, found targets, dug holes and test gardens.......most tests are designed to convince others you are right. But i believe most experience hunters will know if the machine is fitting THEIR needs..... and might even get surprised at other ways the machine improves their hunting besides depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL NINO77 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I just want to say that earth tests are fair...especially if you add other competitive detectors to the test to compare real-time performance... ... Do not forget that all the detectors are tested on various test fields during the development. Never go straight from the lab to the field for detection .. .And then these detectors are real tested in the terain. In different situations ... where the detector is still tuned ... I consider both tests essential. It shows the technical quality of the detector ... And ... Finally, the practice of satisfied users will decide on the success of the project ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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