Tahoegold Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I had it on my hardwood floor. I had a piece of bird shot in a plastic bag and was just pushing down to make sure the shot was on the coil. I wasnt pushing very hard and I wasnt moving it, I just pressed down gently to flatten the bag. I hear of guys using their detector as a walking stick. I wasn't pushing nearly that hard. I guess I should treat coils with extreme caution. I'll be gentle and not push on them is all. I hope this coil isn't going to go next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 If you are pushing down hard enough to deform the coil and shift the windings that’s could do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredmason Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I have to lean on my. Equinox’s coil. When I get up from digging or if I lose my balance....not what I want to do but.... do you have a coil cover on? Make sure there isn’t any dirt or minerals in there. fr,ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahoegold Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I think that's what happened, I could notice a slight movement when I did it. I suppose any coil will break if pushed on. I'm not a long time detectorist, I sure dont want to keep breaking coils! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kac Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 When I broke my AT Pro stock dd it would false out when tapped or touched. I use a high power laser pointer 405nm to illuminate the surface and was able to see a hairline crack that was the culprit. Tapping around the edge you might be able to find the spot. Assuming you checked the connections and cable. I did repair my dd and it is usable but slightly out of spec now so I keep it as a backup. Repairing wasn't all that easy either. Because the crack is so fine you can't just smudge some epoxy in. I used a pressure pot at 60psi to force the epoxy in and though not perfect it did the trick. Lastly the epoxy I used was the standard 2 part clear which is slightly flexible and could be the reason it is slightly out of wack. For 3rd party coils I have a popular one made in the Ukraine and have been unable to contact them about possible repair/replace on that coil as they do not respond to any of my emails for the last 3 months. Your better off with coils from the original manufacturer unless the company is nice enough to talk to their customers and actually honor their warranties. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahoegold Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Well,, all this info is good. I have a far better understanding of the situation now. I saw a major retailer carrying the sister company coil from the Urkrane and they offer a 3yr warranty. Which I know they would honer. That being said, I'm positive my GR 19 coil that is epoxy filled didn't have any cracks. I do know that it happened when I was pushing down on it to sweep a flat spot. Yes, this particular coil only uses a skid plate. The bottom is the epoxy. So, I guess coils are to be handled with care. That is good info for me. The fact that this happens makes me understand it's a must that I'm careful. It's all ok for me. I will be getting a GR19 replacememt. I'm sure it's the best match. The little sniper coil really works well on tiny stuff. And in trash. Thanks for the info to you all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Tahoegold said: So, I guess coils are to be handled with care I don’t. They are made to be used, not babied. I’ve used hundreds of coils over the last 45 years and had few problems. I don’t recommend using them for a walking stick or leaning on them, but swinging and scraping the ground is what coils do day in and day out. Seriously, you are just having a little bad luck. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahoegold Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Steve Herschbach said: I don’t. They are made to be used, not babied. I’ve used hundreds of coils over the last 45 years and had few problems. Seriously, you are just having a little bad luck. Ok, that's good news. I'm concerned as I have another coil, my 10"DD that is showing the same signs. Same issue by pushing down very gently. If they are not supposed to do this this easy, maybe I am having bad luck. It's not falsing, it's overloading. Wierd symptoms, Paul's did the same thing... So, that's 3 coils. I will trust you Steve. I know this can happen. The Makro repair guy said he doesn't see many problems at all either with their line. He says the coils are well made and seemed to think all coils have a few issues equally. And, he said the manufacturers coils seem to work better. I'm hoping my 10" DD doesnt get worse. It made that overload sound once already... Like I said though. I'm not giving up on Makro, and I'll stick with their coils. I'm happy with their performance. Thanks again. I don't mean for this to sound like I'm not trusting Makro. I just don't have much experience with all this. I appreciate the input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanursepaul Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 I beat the crap out of mine... all of them,, scrape them, use them for a shovel and I’ve never had one go bad..... I mean I think they are working....., but Hmmmmmm??? Maybe that’s why I can’t find anything with them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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