Testing The XP Deus2 11" - Inland Hunting : Field Tests , Depth Tests Etc

[palzynski]

Happy to see that Sid's video confirms my results : RELIC/GOLD are by far the deepest D2 modes.  

However from what I have seen , Sid has just tested the Legend and Equinox Park/Field modes and NOT their gold modes ... Then it looks lke this comparison is not so fair ... Or did I miss something ?

 

[☠ Cipher]

2 hours ago, palzynski said:

Happy to see that Sid's video confirms my results : RELIC/GOLD are by far the deepest D2 modes.  

However from what I have seen , Sid has just tested the Legend and Equinox Park/Field modes and NOT their gold modes ... Then it looks lke this comparison is not so fair ... Or did I miss something ?

 

You’re correct, he didn’t test each in gold mode, just what he considers each machines deepest settings. I don’t know about the Legend, but I found Field mode the deepest on Equinox. 

[palzynski]

45 minutes ago, ☠ Cipher said:

You’re correct, he didn’t test each in gold mode, just what he considers each machines deepest settings. I don’t know about the Legend, but I found Field mode the deepest on Equinox. 

Ok then these powerful GOLD/RELIC modes are a big plus for the Deus2 vs the competitors . They could be used to find deep buried coins of a coin spill for example . 

There is a similar mode called PROSPECTING on the ML Xterra 705 which works very well and goes deep. It helped me to find 2 remaining coins of a coin spill a few years ago ...

[Jeff McClendon]

That is not the ultimate comparison in my opinion. If one is testing a VCO audio mode on one detector then any other detector with VCO audio should also be compared using that type of audio. Goldfield on the Legend and the two Gold modes on the Equinox are VCO single tone audio similar to Deus 2 Relic and Goldfield. Which one is deeper doesn't particularly matter to me. From any testing and actual field detecting that I have done, the Legend, Equinox, Deus 1 and ORX single tone VCO audio modes are deeper and more sensitive than any other mode on those detectors. I can't test Deus 2 yet since I don't have a 9" coil. However, not testing them head to head is puzzling.

[☠ Cipher]

There will always be people who will and won’t like a given test for their own reasons. Same in every forum https://www.dankowskidetectors.com/discussions/read.php?2,184304

[GB_Amateur]

2 hours ago, ☠ Cipher said:

There will always be people who will and won’t like a given test for their own reasons.

I consider Jeff's "apples vs. oranges" a valid complaint, and we've been seeing this repeatedly throughout the last few months as the two new kids on the block have come out to play.  Before a couple months ago I thought I didn't know my Equinox 800 all that well.  I've since found out I know more about it than most of the people making these comparison videos.  Hell, there's stuff in the manual that contradicts what they say/show as far as setup is concerned!  And what about coil control -- the list goes on and on.

I've wondered if a good comparison video would be to have an expert (well, maybe those are difficult to find) on each detector in the video handle each different detector.  The guy who knows detector A the best should be the one who sets it up and swings it, etc.  But that still doesn't get around the different local condition issues that the viewer will have, even assuming the 'expert' knows his/her detector inside and out.

[phrunt]

I wonder why the CTX is left out of these depth tests so often, is it that most people no longer have one, or never did?

It's just with the price of the Deus 2 another pricey detector should be thrown in the mix and well, by comparison to my Nox in my soil the CTX is the well defined king of depth even when both just using their 11" coils, it's not a maybe, it's a certainty. 

Then, if I'm testing depth on detectors I use the biggest coil they have available, why handicap the Nox with the 11" coil if it has a 15x12 and 15" on offer and slam in the CTX with it's 17x13" and then you see depth.  This is my problem with these tests, yes they're valid tests if you don't mind handicapping detectors to do the tests, if someones going out looking for deep coins they're less likely to use the 11" coil if they have a bigger one unless they're in heavy trash.  Perhaps these tests are good for identifying the detector that's deepest for trashy areas, which I guess we already know the Deus 2 is going to win there.

I liked the test, it was good as it did give information, but I'd prefer a real overall depth test, showing which detector is actually deepest.  If a video of the Deus 2 pops up with it's biggest coil of 11' showing it beat the CTX with 17x13" coil in this same sort of mild soils on a half penny like this video I'll buy one the minute I've watched the video as that's what I want and need, the Deus 2 would have to be in a usable configuration of course, not reacting to the ground all over the place even though it's mild ground just to register a hit on the target.

Yes, there are people who are located in hot soil areas, so again another test like this in hotter soils showing which detectors have the most depth then too, then it might swing back to the Equinox or Deus 2.

[Jeff McClendon]

3 hours ago, ☠ Cipher said:

There will always be people who will and won’t like a given test for their own reasons. Same in every forum https://www.dankowskidetectors.com/discussions/read.php?2,184304

I personally like all of Sid's videos....always have. So, it has nothing to do with my own personal reasons.

It's simple. Either Sid is not comfortable enough with the Equinox Gold modes and the Legend Goldfield mode to use them in the video or it was an oversight. Either way it is no big deal.

Another very good UK Youtube creator did a similar thing when he used his ORX in Coin Fast vs Deus ll in Relic mode in a 30 minute wild hunt video. It was a joke basically and many people gave him grief for making the ORX (which many of his viewers had purchased because of his recommendations) look so bad when all he had to do was put the ORX in Gold 1........... He had to do verbal back flips for several weeks and finally just said he was simply using the ORX in the mode he knew and wasn't really doing a comparison........very telling statement. Either one basically knows their detector or they don't. The follow up to that is why is this person making a depth comparison video???????

I just continue to want to see a head to head VCO vs VCO vs VCO video between these detectors if one is interested in overall raw depth. That would teach me and anyone else who wants to know, how to use those modes in real world relic situations and how they stack up.

I can do the Legend vs Equinox VCO comparisons myself......don't have a complete Deus 2 Lite yet.

[☠ Cipher]

2 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:

I consider Jeff's "apples vs. oranges" a valid complaint

I understand the complaint, but there’s apples to oranges here in other respects in that the Deus 2 is running a 9” coil vs others with 11” coils. I don’t have a legend, but I do have an equinox, and I just haven’t found gold mode deeper here on high conductive signals no matter how it’s set up. It was surprising to find the Deus 2 was deeper in Gold and Relic. I know Sid did not run the others in Gold for the same reason because I’ve seen him post on it. He’s not found any mode on the Nox deeper than Field in his soil. I don’t know if he’s tested the Legend, and who knows it could surprise us as well.