GB_Amateur Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Yatahaze323 said: Just saw a youtube vid from TNS saying you can go back to older versions. Plug your manticore into your computer, open the update tool, and in the bottom right corner of the update tool screen are three dots. Click those and you can get to the other version! OK, retraction #1 by me if this can be confirmed. (Update: Appears Simon has confirmed.) Once I'm confident I can get back to where I started, I'll upload and do some testing. My baseline is the Equinox 800 which I know rather well in my soils. I can at least say if the Manticore's performance with the update, relative to the 800, has changed (and of course if so, in which direction) in my moderately mineralized test bed. I await hearing more about the update itself and if Andrew's experience is due (simply) to some kind of (rare) anomaly as opposed to a blanket effect of the update. People sometimes get chastised for not updating to the latest software but it's these kind of inexcusable oversights (again, if that's what we are actually seeing) that makes some of us wary. Squeeky wheel tends to get the grease and we've seen a fair amount of squeeking regarding iron handling and VDI stability when running the original software. I had the Manticore out yesterday for a short 2 hour search in a well-hunted (by me) park. Maybe partly influenced by the horror story I read here, but I was rather pleased how it was performing with the origninal software. It's the typical incremental comfort that I experienced with the Equinox 800 five years ago. The more hands-on hours I gain, the more subtlties (and I do mean 'subltle') that I seem to pick up. Long way to go yet, just like with the 800. However, with the 800 the updates did help me and I hope that will be the case with the Manticore. Never take away; just add, PLEASE! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT Dave Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, GB_Amateur said: People sometimes get chastised for not updating to the latest software but it's these kind of inexcusable oversights (again, if that's what we are actually seeing) that makes some of us wary. All of the most update averse people I know are software engineers. - Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenson Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 OK went back to the previous version on the Manticore and it's a night and day difference in performance. Got too much going on tonight to try and upload the latest version again and see how it really works. But now at least I know I can get back to a previous version. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canslawhero Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, abenson said: OK went back to the previous version on the Manticore and it's a night and day difference in performance. Got too much going on tonight to try and upload the latest version again and see how it really works. But now at least I know I can get back to a previous version. nice one! is there a new installer app? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Goldman Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 18 minutes ago, canslawhero said: nice one! is there a new installer app? No read back further in the thread. There there is a way to roll back to the previous version with the existing installer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveg Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 OK, I'm now officially spooked about updating... I do NOT have enough hours on my Manticore to feel comfortable with it, and its performance. And my concern is that until I DO, I may not notice, as abenson did, a degradation of performance. I'm still at the stage where I don't get the performance from the Manticore that I did from my Equinox (which I know is largely if not entirely due to knowing my Equinox so well), and so I'm thinking it would not be wise to update to the new version, until I'm fully comfortable with the ORIGINAL version... I will be following this thread closely, to see abenson's continued reports, and to see if anyone else has issues with the update... Steve 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT Dave Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 So after about ten hours of hunting on the update, I just rolled mine back, for a couple of reasons. Just now went out and tried the dime target that was giving me trouble and it - to me - is clearly hitting it better than with the update. But, another observation, is that this is NOT the previous version, either. Because, ferrous numbers are now red, as with the update, but there isn't a setting to turn that off anymore either. So, can used the updater to revert to an older version, but it's not necessarily the same version you had before the update. It certainly seems not to be on mine. - Dave 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenson Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 42 minutes ago, UT Dave said: But, another observation, is that this is NOT the previous version, either. Because, ferrous numbers are now red, as with the update, but there isn't a setting to turn that off anymore either. That's weird because my numbers are not red. They have the red underline just like before. As far as I can tell it performs just like the old version. Hopefully I will have a chance to do more testing tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBayBrad Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 42 minutes ago, UT Dave said: Because, ferrous numbers are now red, as with the update, I think I remember reading a thread quite some time ago here about a guy's Manticore video on Youtube having red ID #'s. Someone commented that he must be running a different software version than the rest of us because his #'s were red. This was a ways back like maybe March or April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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