Equinox Multi-IQ Technologies ( Part 3 )

[dewcon4414]

Steve do you think this statement has changed?:  is more sensitive to high frequency targets and slightly less sensitive to low frequency targets.

I believe this was a comparison of BBS/FBS...... seems the low freq part may have based on the nuggets you guys have found.   High freq like silver may be nothing more than the depth........and since they say its just slightly less i dare say here on a Fl beach its going to be insignificant..... HOWEVER this latest turn may well have improved the gold performance for us beach hunters.

 

 

[Chase Goldman]

2 hours ago, dewcon4414 said:

Steve do you think this statement has changed?:  is more sensitive to high frequency targets and slightly less sensitive to low frequency targets.

I believe this was a comparison of BBS/FBS...... seems the low freq part may have based on the nuggets you guys have found.   High freq like silver may be nothing more than the depth........and since they say its just slightly less i dare say here on a Fl beach its going to be insignificant..... HOWEVER this latest turn may well have improved the gold performance for us beach hunters.

 

 

I think you are mixing up frequency and conductivity terms in some parts of the discussion above (e.g., “high freq like silver”).  Large and High conductive targets (e.g., silver) are typically better detected at depth with low frequency and small and mid-conductive targets (e.g., gold) typically better detected with higher frequencies.  There are no absolutes and other factors such as soil and salt conductivity, iron proximity, and target size come into play.  Hence the advantages of Multi IQ AND high recovery speed become apparent.  Overcoming the instability that results from the varying salt concentration/  conductivity in surf/wet sand is the overriding consideration in beach mode which tends to favor low frequency weighting and may limit small gold detection capability in wet sand surf.  But having a stable detector at least gives you a fighting chance and should also slightly favor higher conductive targets like silver.  Gold mode should excel on dry beach and with Mult IQ should make a decent general purpose dry beach mode.

Was this the statement you were referring to:

“Multi-IQ uses a different group of fundamental frequencies than BBS/FBS to generate a wide-band multi-frequency transmission signal that is more sensitive to high frequency targets and slightly less sensitive to low frequency targets. Multi-IQ uses the latest high-speed processors and advanced digital filtering techniques for a much faster recovery speed than BBS/FBS technologies. Multi-IQ copes with saltwater and beach conditions almost as well as BBS/FBS, however BBS/FBS still have an advantage for finding high conductive silver coins in all conditions.”

[Steve Herschbach]

Hi dew,

The addition of multifrequency to the Gold Mode did nothing to change the underlying fundamentals of Multi-IQ. The statement is a generality, nothing more, that attempts to describe the difference between BBS/FBS and Multi-IQ in simplistic terms.

The Equinox was designed to compete with the Garrett AT detectors and XP DEUS more than anything else. If that was not already obvious the leaked dealer meeting photo should make it so! That is the bar Minelab set for themselves. That is also an admission that the CTX is lacking in the ways needed to compete with those detectors, which are outselling it by huge numbers. Addressing that is what Equinox is all about, not replacing the Excalibur or CTX 3030.

[Nuke em]

6 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Hi dew,

The addition of multifrequency to the Gold Mode did nothing to change the underlying fundamentals of Multi-IQ. The statement is a generality, nothing more, that attempts to describe the difference between BBS/FBS and Multi-IQ in simplistic terms.

The Equinox was designed to compete with the Garrett AT detectors and XP DEUS more than anything else. If that was not already obvious the leaked dealer meeting photo should make it so! That is the bar Minelab set for themselves. That is also an admission that the CTX is lacking in the ways needed to compete with those detectors, which are outselling it by huge numbers. Addressing that is what Equinox is all about, not replacing the Excalibur or CTX 3030.

The AT and Deus would out sell the CTX anyway , they are a different price range . The CTX only sells so poorly compared to many because of the price . If the price here in the UK wasn't the price of a small house i might have kept mine . Even if i didn't like it much . Other reasons for its lack of sales are the weight and complicated menu and many people kept moaning about lack of updates . Though i always thought the Exchange 2 was for downloading programs . I doubt that the Equinox will get many updates unless the machine has issues after release .

The Equinox is going to have the Deus and AT types for dinner and any others in that price range if successful . 

[dewcon4414]

Does seem odd to have the flag ship detector...... especially at its price, have a NEW detector step in appearing to do as well or out do the very machines that the flag ship is struggle to compete with...... yet remain the flag ship.   How do we now define flag ship?   Not sales or performance.   Ill have to see the difference now to decide if ML is correct about BBS/FBS still being top dog...... in some areas it may not be unless theres something we just dont know yet.

[Chase Goldman]

4 hours ago, Nuke em said:

The AT and Deus would out sell the CTX anyway , they are a different price range . The CTX only sells so poorly compared to many because of the price . If the price here in the UK wasn't the price of a small house i might have kept mine . Even if i didn't like it much . Other reasons for its lack of sales are the weight and complicated menu and many people kept moaning about lack of updates . Though i always thought the Exchange 2 was for downloading programs . I doubt that the Equinox will get many updates unless the machine has issues after release .

The Equinox is going to have the Deus and AT types for dinner and any others in that price range if successful . 

Agree AT series is toast with Equinox and Deus will take a hit too, but mainly because of what you have to pay for it.  In some respects (e.g., HF) it may still outperform the Equinox because its frequencies are much higher than the Equinox max frequency.  No one (even Minelab Go detectors), touch Deus on lightweight, low profile detecting.  But will users be willing to pay the Deus price for these fringe benefits?  I would say very few once Equinox comes out.

[schoolofhardNox]

1 hour ago, dewcon4414 said:

Does seem odd to have the flag ship detector...... especially at its price, have a NEW detector step in appearing to do as well or out do the very machines that the flag ship is struggle to compete with...... yet remain the flag ship.   How do we now define flag ship?   Not sales or performance.   Ill have to see the difference now to decide if ML is correct about BBS/FBS still being top dog...... in some areas it may not be unless theres something we just dont know yet.

Could be that the flag ship detector is still in the works. If the Equinox is second string to something bigger, then I better get to saving my change for the top dog.  I'm still hoping for that pulse discriminator that Santa reneged on!

[Steve Herschbach]

20 hours ago, Nuke em said:

The AT and Deus would out sell the CTX anyway , they are a different price range . The CTX only sells so poorly compared to many because of the price . If the price here in the UK wasn't the price of a small house i might have kept mine . Even if i didn't like it much . Other reasons for its lack of sales are the weight and complicated menu and many people kept moaning about lack of updates . Though i always thought the Exchange 2 was for downloading programs . I doubt that the Equinox will get many updates unless the machine has issues after release .

The Equinox is going to have the Deus and AT types for dinner and any others in that price range if successful . 

Correct, price is one of the ways CTX is not faring well versus less expensive competition, though if the CTX was the same price it still would lose lots of sales to Deus in particular, for reasons you mention and more - like recovery speed in trash. The bottom line is CTX is expensive and heavy and so a new platform had to be developed to compete with the hot sellers from Garrett and XP.

The only point I am trying to make is Equinox is designed to compete with the Garrett AT series and XP Deus and will succeed or fail based on how it does versus those detectors. If people want to buy an Excalibur or E-TRAC or CTX instead Minelab certainly won’t be upset.