auminesweeper Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 minute ago, dbsmokey said: Well perhaps you are right. I tend to use these detectors in setting other than the beach and prospecting, so those features are not a staple to most. I definitely like the looks and have hopes White’s has hit a home run with this. Their detectors have served me well. Well I guess you could say that this one is a TDI without all the fuss, You can still off set the GB to wipe out unwanted targets and cherry pick so this might be the best TDI for the beach yet and it is waterproof, So you have a machine that lets you get on with the job and no second guessing which is one of the main things that made the MXT such a success. It's all about the detecting and I like that Idea. John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB_Amateur Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 24 minutes ago, dbsmokey said: I’m a bit hesitant because of the battery type and lack of conductivity switch.... I suspect the www.RNB-innovations.com aftermarket Iithium batteries will work in these. That gives you more battery life (mAh) but about the same voltage. Here I'm assuming the NiMH battery pack for the TDI/SL will be the same one used in this new detector. I think even without the conductivity switch (so presumably locked in 'all' as is the case with the TDI/SPP) you still get some discrimination by listening to the frequency of the tones. It's apparently a bit noiser in 'all' as opposed to 'high' or 'low' switch settings but other than that you let your brain do the discriminating. At least that is my less-than-expert understanding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dawg Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I want Whites to succeed with their waterproof TDI, however if they do not address the timing issue and get the timing down to 7 usec, they will not compete with the new Fisher Manta. Sensitivity to gold will be much better with the Manta and its fast timing. Its one of the main selling points of the Manta. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auminesweeper Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, GB_Amateur said: I suspect the www.RNB-innovations.com aftermarket Iithium batteries will work in these. That gives you more battery life (mAh) but about the same voltage. Here I'm assuming the NiMH battery pack for the TDI/SL will be the same one used in this new detector. I think even without the conductivity switch (so presumably locked in 'all' as is the case with the TDI/SPP) you still get some discrimination by listening to the frequency of the tones. It's apparently a bit noiser in 'all' as opposed to 'high' or 'low' switch settings but other than that you let your brain do the discriminating. At least that is my less-than-expert understanding. Yeah GB I think your right, according to the manual this one takes the same battery as the SL being 2200mah P/N509-0036. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB_Amateur Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mxt Sniper said: I want Whites to succeed with their waterproof TDI, however if they do not address the timing issue and get the timing down to 7 usec.... Carl Moreland (one of the major design engineers of the TDI series) has already said here on this site that the current circuitry of the TDI cannot stably support shorter delay's than the lower limit of 10 microseconds. Maybe White's current engineers have reworked the circuitry. We can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrod1101 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I was watching some youtube videos and ED The Beach Hunter is claiming to have a prototype that he is trying out in this video. He shows the box at 5:06 minutes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbsmokey Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 With the existence of a manual, a webpage and a video I’m of the opinion it’s not a lie; however, it is a puzzling marketing strategy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auminesweeper Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 I think that Whites was waiting to release it at some point but some naughty person posted it on their web pages and now this video plus the manual being on Whites site means it is real, I really wish Whites all the luck in the world and thank them for raising the bar even if the Cat should of stayed in the bag, I am also pleased that they have listened to folks and put a TDI in a Wet Suit, lol. Well done Whites. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah (FL) Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 11 hours ago, Mxt Sniper said: I want Whites to succeed with their waterproof TDI, however if they do not address the timing issue and get the timing down to 7 usec, they will not compete with the new Fisher Manta. Sensitivity to gold will be much better with the Manta and its fast timing. Its one of the main selling points of the Manta. It will be interesting to see what the pulse delay/timing capabilities of the final production Manta will be. It's been discussed by quite a few folks that the big hurdle is factory production of a coil that can reliably operate below 10uS. Time will tell and at least now,White's may have given them a reason to hurry it along! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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