Steve Herschbach

It can only be said so many times - the 24K and White's GMX are the same detector in different housings, and use the same coils, just different labels and decals. As far as I know, these are all the compatible coils currently out there for the 24K... if you can find them. NEL is reportedly working on aftermarket coils, and I would not be surprised to see other offerings from Garrett also. 6” concentric for White’s GMX Sport - compatible with 24K models The new Garrett 6x10 DD coil is black, while the original White's version above was white. Garrett 6" x 10" DD coil for Goldmaster 24K

They are not out of business, just call the phone. People answer. This is not a mystery.

I’d argue with you over that one. I followed this machine from before day one, gleaned every clue about it, and posted here for years about it in anticipation. Lined up one of the first, and gave some pretty glowing reviews, that in some ways I now regret. My use in fresh water only gave an incomplete view of the machine. And frankly, those having salt issues were all strangely reticent about saying so publicly, making me question how real those issues were. It’s like nobody wanted to come right out in public and say the baby was ugly. deborah195412 was the only person to go public with this early on, and was explained away as having a bad unit. I’d heard private comments, but was loath to make much of second hand information. Salinity seems to be the key, though it also could simply be a problem with individual units. Joe Beechnut has had perhaps the greatest success with this detector in water. Yet he hunts exclusively in lower salinity brackish estuary waters. He is also in cooler water. Higher temps, high salinity, seems to be a common factor, mineral less so. I speculated on heat buildup in a epoxy sealed high voltage circuit maybe being an issue with circuit drift, but was told that was not it. I still also question that however. So salt, high temps…… something is up, and perhaps is the reason why First Texas has gone silent on this machine. Well, except for a couple video mentions, and Kellyco hyping it up as available soon. The AQ is tantalizingly close to being the perfect water PI. For me performance was great, although the preset ground balance was an issue in my extreme soil. It was always reactive to the soil, but the autotune made it useable. My main issue was dissatisfaction with the unfinished mechanical aspects. i.e. klunky battery pack and cable setup. I also think the mechanical knobs will be a service issue long term, sealed touchpad would be more reliable. But this inability to perform in places like Hawaii is a complete product killer unless solved. Hawaii was for me the entire reason for coming to love ground balancing PI performance, able to handle both salt water and basalt hot rocks at the same time. If I had made a trip to Hawaii with mine, and it had not worked, I’d have been livid, and far less forgiving than you Clive. This thing was supposedly vetted. Here is what Tom Walsh, President of First Texas wrote in his “Disclosure” which each buyer was asked to read and confirm their acceptance of: “Fisher is offering the Impulse®-AQ Limited to a select group of experienced early adopters who want to experience design and technological innovation in real-time, as it unfolds. The Impulse®-AQ Limited is not a prototype or pre-production metal detector; it is the first edition to a new product line of Impulse® technology.” I’d say at this point the Impulse AQ as sold to us was and is clearly a prototype/preproduction model, and everyone involved was charged good money to do what is normally expected of paid prototype testers. That may not have been the intent, and Tom Walsh was probably just believing what he was told, but this detector was not properly vetted and completed before sale. That’s not an accusation. It’s simply a fact.

Just a reminder that the original Deus, XP ORX, and now Deus II, all use different wireless headphone options, and they are not interchangeable. So be careful what you buy, especially if buying used. Make sure you are getting what you really wanted. Click or double click for much larger version:

It may be that with supply chain issues just getting product is hard enough. If you can't supply demand, no reason for sales.

I'd not make anything of the photo. Sometimes if you take a picture like that, you do it with no cars and other stuff around on purpose. I'd was a huge Fisher fan for a very long time, all the way from original analog 1280X, Gold Bug, and CZ-5 days, to F75 and F19. But then things just stopped. New detectors were just old ones rejiggered ,and there has been nothing genuinely new on the top end for over a decade. The F-Pulse is for me, just like Jeff, the only FT product I still own and use constantly. I'm still rooting for them, but the Impulse AQ saga has not left me with a warm fuzzy - just the opposite. The way the White's MX Sport went down told me there were problems at White's, and the Impulse AQ situation feels all too similar.

Magnet attested to it screams magnetite, or a rock with very high magnetite content. I have a few large doorstops of pure magnetite, and they attract a magnet as if the were steel plate. If yours is less magnetic, it could be a high magnetite content basalt rock, or an ultramafic rock with high magnetite content.

It’s getting a little weird for Fisher fans. All kinds of news and activity from the other major players, and crickets at First Texas. Hopefully something changes for the positive in 2022, because right now it’s easy to forget they even exist.

So what is it you want from the Deus 2? Gold prospecting was not likely to be it's number one use anyway, but it is coins, jewelry, and relics where it will see the most use. Sounds right up your alley. It's winter here, if it showed up tomorrow it would be months before I even got around to using it much. There will be tons of reports out before I get around to it.

OK, gotta say you got me good on that one Jeff! But I do prefer the little coil - makes a great pinpointer for use with my GPX 6000 digging pits to the middle of the earth!

I did those for twenty years, retired now, so will wait on yours first. What's to know really? It's going to be a nice detector, will work well, find things just fine, and anyone halfway good at what they are doing, will do just fine with one. It's not going to blow away existing machines, like go two inches deeper that an Equinox, or any other such silliness. VLF tech is maxed out, so pick your poison, go detecting, and have fun! My reviews served a purpose as I did them back in the day on machines rarely reviewed by others, mostly gold prospecting machines. Now testing and reporting is an industry, and I’m not needed all that much anymore. I did put great care and detail into my reports, I think more than most, but that means I put a lot of work into them also. It really is a lot of work, and for what, a few pats on the back? And the inevitable accusations of shilling. That really takes the fun out of it fast. I guess at this point I’m just too lazy to make the effort, beyond just some casual commenting perhaps.

It's like making a video bragging about tying your shoes. "Hey look, I can take something out of a box"!!

Like I said, I am in line for a Deus 2, and I'm willing to bet I'll be quite happy with it. I'm certainly not waiting around for Minelab. And happy to see the Deus 2 may be shipping, though I'll not be holding my breath watching the mailbox.

I think you have the situation backwards about who is dominating the market, and who needs to catch up. Yeah, over three years after Equinox, we are seeing competition. I'm sure Minelab has been asleep that entire time. Just a reminder, but Minelab brought us BBS multifrequency in 1991 with the Sovereign, advanced to FBS, then FBS2, and now fourth generation with Multi-IQ. I applaud XP and others for finally getting with the program, but frankly they are very, very late to this table. And just because a machine is multifrequency proves nothing. If so White's would still be with us, but the fact is their implementations of multi never could match and supplant the Minelab lead. It's far from proven that these first generation offerings will do so either, though I do have a lot of faith in Alain and his team. I can't see them offering an also ran at the price they are asking, if it does not perform at least as well as a detector selling for half the price i.e Equinox 600. But I would hold the applause until the machine is out for about a year. Look how long it took so many folks to figure out Equinox actually was different, and I expect it will take some time for the dust to settle here also. I do have enough faith in Alain though to have a Deus 2 on order for myself, so I'm not casting stones. I just want to keep expectations grounded in reality, as excessive expectations almost inevitably lead to disappointment. My absolute wish is that the Deus 2 turns out to be what we all hope for, and more. For those interested in the history and details of this technology, see my article (soon to be updated with new models) Selectable Frequency And Multiple Frequency

Actually, SMF (simultaneous multifrequency) never existed as a term until Nokta/Makro screwed the pooch, and called their selectable frequency detectors multifrequency detectors. And you just invented selectable multifrequency, so you can see how this sort of confusion happens. When I wrote my article on the subject in 2017, there was only selectable frequency, and multifrequency. That's it. Multifrequency meant simultaneous, so saying so was redundant. A simultaneous multifrequency machine that offered selectable frequencies was still a multifrequency machine. Selectable frequency machines, on the other hand, are still just single frequency detectors in that they can only run one at a time. All was fine, then NM messed it up, and now we have to specify even more what we are talking about. Looks like I'll need to update my article to add the latest machines.

Yes, this problem is real, and all mentions of it were answered with excuses, or minimization of the problem. I never experienced the problem personally as I only hunted fresh water, and can vouch for the AQ performing well there at least. The problem appears to be related to high salinity situations, compounded by high mineralization - the exact reasons why you would normally want a PI. As far as I know the machine basically does not work in Hawaii, and apparently some other locations, unless detuned to the point that you may as well use a VLF.

People have commented on how much Legend resembles Equinox, and have to admit there are a lot of similarities. The look. Frequency choices. And mode names.

Low frequencies use more lower than high frequencies, so in mono mode, the lower the frequency chosen, the shorter the battery life. Lower weighted multi modes will also use more power, and it’s not impossible coil voltage output is varied in some modes. It’s an INTRODUCTORY VIDEO! Not an in depth explanation of the frequencies used!!! That’s not the intent of the video, but hey, let’s hang XP for not explaining absolutely everything in a short INTRODUCTORY VIDEO.

That Amazon ad is way wrong, it’s epoxy filled, 744 grams.

All good, but this is the XP Forum. Just saying.

I like the simple concept of turn detector off, headphones turn off. Not just a sleep mode, but off. That helps prevent unpleasant surprises. Small details like that add up.

See this thread on the Detector Advice & Comparisons Forum for lots of those kinds of opinions, all of which are completely meaningless speculation. Thought are just thoughts, and until put to the test in real world conditions, really nothing more than guesses. Any this brand versus that brand stuff needs to be kept over there.

Having skill means knowing what detectors and coils to use - another area where novices fail miserably. I'm not discounting the hardware - the best operators in any sport always use any hardware that will give them the the best edge. Tiger Woods does not use crappy clubs, and knows which one to use for any given shot. Knowing which is which is part of the skill involved. And if you don't think a pro with a poorer detector can't run circles around a novice with the best, you've not detected with very many novices. I've seen real life examples many times, especially in nugget detecting.

You care more about marketing than actual performance? Knowing exact frequencies used and how they are processed in multi, is actually about as important as knowing the firing sequence for the spark plugs in your car or truck. But really it's just an intro video, not a tech video. There is more frequency info in the operating manual, and probably more to come in the future. Even White's took more than a day to get all the info out.

We are already there, just people don’t know it. Minelab since BBS has combined time domain and frequency domain in their multi processing, so hybrid detecting had been with us a long time now. Tarsacci is another example of multi domain processing. Most of these terms as tossed around really don’t mean a lot now, except in peoples perceptions. The problem with the hybrid approach as far as depth is it is limited by the weakest link in the combination. Ground balancing PI does offer a genuine significant depth advantage over any induction balance technology, which people commonly refer to as VLF. GBPI has crude audio discrimination capability, and anyone wanting a genuine depth advantage, and willing to do a little extra digging, should be looking at something like a GPX 5000. People say they want more depth, and it already exists for those who need it badly enough to deal with the caveats. If there is any possibility of a genuine breakthrough in detecting still, I see it happening in that technology, not in further extensions of so-called VLF technology.