Jeff McClendon

I had to stop watching mudwhale’s video to take a phone call and haven’t finished it. Sorry

On which detector? Deus 2 56 to 64 depending on depth Equinox similar to a US nickel 11 to 14 depending on depth

One possible way is to use the biggest Double D coil available and hunt in Cancel using the Coin/Relic mode. If soil iron mineralization is too high Normal might work along with lowering Gain a bit. I would wait for more suggestions from more experienced GPX 5000 relic hunters on this site.

Greek to English translation: Kostas 13 said "Hello, do you think that there is a way for the minelab gpx 5000 not to detect small targets by locating only the big ones, would it be possible to build a big coil that would do the job? I think it would be very useful for hunters looking for deep large objects in places where there is small surface debris ...."

VDI scales are only accurate for very shallow coins or for air tests with the coin about an 1" or more from the coil especially using DD coils. Swing speed, getting the coil centered over the target, soil moisture levels, depth and mineralization levels can really skew single frequency detector VDI numbers on detectors like the Simplex, Kruzer, Deus 1, F75 etc. The best way to find out what VDI numbers are is to do it yourself........

I only saw 2 different scoring systems in the last two responses.....maybe I missed something. 16/16 is 8/8. 15/16 is 7.5/8. Some people like to deal with hole numbers some like to deal with fractions. It is still the same scoring.

I have checked Red Dirt Treasure's current Facebook page very carefully which includes a hunt schedule that is laid out differently. No mention of an FTP multi frequency detector that I can see.

Maybe this mysterious F44 "Boost" feature is for the mythical new FTP coil...........

XP are producing a specific dive shaft with no metal that is all plastic. I assume that shaft will be part of the Deus 2 Lite shaft that is already all plastic but without the upper aluminum shaft. Hopefully there will also be no steel pins in the cam locks or they will be far enough away from the coil to prevent falsing. The coil antenna wire will run inside the shaft and come out behind the RC. So will this eventually come as a Deus 2 Full diving package with the diving shaft and bone conductive headphones. What will that cost? Or will bone conductive headphones and the special telescopic diving shaft be an accessory?

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Some detector companies work out their issues in the background and we never know if something will be done about it or not. Sometimes there is an update a year or more later. Nokta Makro for their own reasons works their issues out right in front of us, the end user, and even lets us chime in. Even though it can get a little spicy sometimes, I for one, really appreciate their willingness to almost instantaneously listen to us and do something about our concerns.

I am the same as Andy......Nox 800 recovery speed 4 or 5 for coin, jewelry and relics.....maybe 6 for small gold nugget prospecting with iron bias set on 0 most of the time or occasionally up to 4, never higher than that. I still say the Legend is a good enough detector to have adjustable iron bias settings. For newbies or new to the Legend.....just leave it on the factory default. For anyone that needs to set it up for more advanced/extreme conditions, now they have the option to do that which is great. I know this is a Nokta Makro topic but the Equinox is in the videos. Also, could everyone just settle down and enjoy the release of a new detector=Legend. I have seen, heard and received enough fallout and bad manners from the other recent detector release. At least on this forum, lets keep it respectful, low key and without anymore drama....Please. The Legend will be in the hands of more testers and end users very soon. Lets see what they have to say instead of getting all wound up about a detector we have never touched.

When I said above: SMFs that are as fast at recovery speed as the Legend need some kind of iron bias, I did not phrase that well. Here is a different way of phrasing it. When an SMF is capable of the recovery speed and target separation that the Legend appears to have, giving it user adjustable iron bias settings will make it an even better detector for a wider variety of target and ground scenarios. Not giving it user adjustable iron bias settings and keeping it arbitrarily fixed would limit the variety of targets and ground scenarios that it would be able to handle well.

Absolutely no comment from me........

SMFs need some kind of extra iron filtering especially when they are as fast at recovery speed as the Legend. Nokta Makro will add adjustable iron bias settings. That is a good thing for people like me who almost always hunt either in man-made iron infested areas or mother nature made iron infested areas. I want my setting as low as possible most of the time so good targets will not be heavily iron masked. Having it at a setting that equaled the Equinox F2=6 level was just dumbing down this excellent detector way too much. If you don't want to have iron bias effect your detecting adversely, just leave it on the lowest setting and enjoy digging a little more iron and some occasional falsing. That works for me too.

I pre-ordered and fully paid for a Deus ll with 9" coil back in December. My dealer told me today it could be mid April. I cancelled my order and got a full refund. No big deal. I actually want just the Deus ll Lite with 9" coil. I can wait.

The Hunter GT's Deus 2 11" coil field testing in moderate mineralization (mineralization graph 1/2 full, air testing, nail board, small gold nuggets, and separation testing.

I posted this over on Iffy's Youtube site in response to his latest nail board test. ------------------------------------------------------------------- I paid very close attention to Mike's testing both yesterday and today. I believe that he has proven in these tests that Nokta Makro has set its fixed iron bias setting a bit too high. Let's go back to the roll out of the Equinox. Many people complained a ton about iron falsing, too many steel crown bottle caps sounding too good..........it was justified. Minelab had not set the original Fe iron bias range aggressive enough. They later released the alternate F2 iron bias range which was much more aggressive and as Iffy showed in this video, a setting of F2=6 made the nails almost stop falsing. It also masked the non-ferrous targets more and made the results be very similar to the Legend. Counting every left to right sweep as 2, with the coins in both positions, I counted 12 to 13 out of 16 for the Equinox F2=6 and 12 to 13 with the Legend with fixed Iron Bias. The Equinox with F2=0 was 14 to 15 using the same settings. Now think about the Vanquish roll out......great IDs in clean ground. Lots of masking of targets however especially iron masking. However......virtually no reports of lots of steel crown bottle caps being dug. Dilek posted a response to Mike's testing on Nokta Makro's Facebook page and for lack of a better choice or words, she nailed it. The problem for those of us that hunt in more iron than your casual hunter: the fixed iron bias setting that Nokta Makro chose was chosen to keep the detector from falsing too much on iron in the hands of less experienced detector users. Dilek also said since there is already an Iron Bias setting which is currently fixed and not adjustable, it can be made adjustable in the future with a software update. Dilek also praised Mike for his testing and for being honest in his testing. So relax people. Mike is a great tester. By great, I mean, not once has he criticized any detector, dismissed it as junk, or told you which one to buy. He is just showing as best he can what these detectors can do. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Also, check out Hunter GT's Part 2 Review with Deus 2 11" coil testing results posted on this forum in the Deus 2 section. Summarizing.........8" max on a US dime in moderately mineralized dirt, the coil has to basically touch a sub .1 gram nugget with the coil in an air test with no mineralization involved, and the 11" coil struggled with Monte's nail board test and with similar scoring system as above, to my ears scored at best 13/14 out of 16...... Hunter GT is an XP dealer by the way and yet he posted these results..........amazing. Many on this forum and some others are struggling with EMI using Deus 2......... If you are a beach hunter/diver or have to regularly hunt in iron trashed sites away from EMI, Deus 2 looks really good. If you need the outstanding ergonomics and minimal weight for physical reasons.....again Deus 2 or Deus 1 or the ORX looks good. For rock solid build quality/waterproofing, the handle vibration feature as an adjunct to needing audio responses when submerged or for the hearing impaired and for a great price, when Nokta Makro straighten out the iron bias setting the Legend looks fantastic. For those of us that know the Equinox like the backs of our hands, I don't see an upgrade with these other detectors for urban coin and jewelry hunting or open field relic hunting without too much iron, for gold prospecting, hunting anything in moderate to high iron mineralized ground or for hunting more iron mineralized beaches where one cannot run Deus 2 Beach Sensitive. Totally just my opinions

Soil in some places near the Rocky Mountains and where they are eroding can be a real challenge for mineralization. EMI can be really bad in urban areas too. My dirt is very similar to Jeremy’s in Portland. I know about a year ago you were wondering why I didn’t care for the ORX discrimination modes since they were working really well for you. Watching this video might give you some clues. Those modes on the ORX using just three tones didn’t give me any information on deeper targets or targets that were close together due to the high mineralization. The same is true of the Deus 1 on deeper targets….everything ended up being a high tone with high numbers or an iron response with no target ID after about 3”……crazy but true. The Gold modes worked great at least for overall depth

Another quirky but very informative video from Paystreak in Oregon. Anyone who lives in the Western US/Canada should pay close attention Paystreak praises Deus 2 and calls it amazing several times but just like Steve and Chase posted in the Advice and Comparison section the actual improvement over Deus 1 is less than 1", slightly better non-ferrous tone hits and more accurate target IDs. Forget about a massive depth gain just because its called Deus 2 and others are hitting 14" US coin targets.

Paystreak is a little quirky but he knows his stuff and usually gives a detector a fair assessment. Sometimes he goes a bit overboard and just like anybody he makes a setting mistake and he draws the wrong conclusion. He usually acknowledges that and appreciates feedback from viewers. Anyone who lives near the Rocky Mountains of North America can learn from videos like his.

For me, that test is dominated by the four iron nail responses which partially mask the small coin. Running reactivity at 5 might in theory make more sense in order to unmask the dime but it is also possible to have the reactivity so fast that it attenuates the dimes partially masked signal too much. You can hear this by just testing all of the reactivity settings while swinging over the dime. From 0 to 5 the dime audio response will get smaller and quicker with more space in between. Also, coil control, uniformity of coil height and swing length and speed are really important when doing Monte's NB. Swinging too short, too fast or just the opposite can really change the results.

One of my favorite detectorists Dirt Fish Mish tries out Deus 2. She is an Aussie and is not one of my favorites because of the way she looks. She is one of my favorites because she knows her stuff, is an excellent content creator and has a no BS, no opinions, unbiased, lets just get metal detecting approach to her videos. She is a very experienced Equinox and Excal user for coins, relics, beach and diving and has never operated an XP detector before until this video. Enjoy, I certainly will.

Welcome to the forum!!!! The Viper coil's quality control were hit and miss. A lot of hype was associated with the release of that coil. For many, it has underperformed. The Raider coil is a tried and true design that has been on many of the AT series detectors. You won't miss much with that coil depending on your beach's salt and iron sand levels and the amount of trash targets present. It is definitely heavier than Viper, but both get heavy with sand all over them and inside their coil covers. Enjoy and HH

The more difficult dirt out here will give very good target IDs on detectors that are capable of that like the Equinox, Vanquish, Deus 2 and hopefully the Legend down to about 6" if the ground has not been disturbed. This has been reported by many people here on this forum, not just me. Some places it is a little less and some places can go a little deeper with identifiable target IDs. Moisture conditions certainly play a part. The Simplex has some of the better IDs for a single frequency detector in the dirt that I used it on. So, Paystreak knew what he was doing when he put those coins in the ground at 6" which is right on the borderline for good IDs for a dime in undisturbed ground. In disturbed ground there are many VLF detectors that would not even hit that dime and if they did, the responses would either be iron grunts, highest target IDs on the detector or no target ID displayed. The fact that both detectors gave some occasional correct IDs was impressive. That tells me that if those were wild undisturbed targets at 6", both detectors (especially Deus 2) would have had even better numbers and tones