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Wow! Do you need another grandson...........I am available! ?

The picture below is from my hunt yesterday. I threw out the trash before your reply. The trash was minimal yesterday with a few small "hot" rusted iron objects, about 15 or so trash items in total. I understand about digging everything, as I use a Sovereign GT in all metal pinpoint mode. I get the fact that depth and sensitivity go hand-in-hand. But if the Nox is concentrating too much on small items at the beach this may actually be a drawback. So do not get mad at me but I would not rather see and dig little stuff...especially stuff that goes through my scoop holes. By the way 367 pesos 151 coins in total and one lousy bracelet [no other jewelry].

With all do respect.......I do not want to find the items in your picture. Dave

A couple of days ago on the beach. A friend got close to me with a power mega phone......My Sovereign went nuts, chirping like a canary. So you never know.....

Can the detector go in airplane mode?

Put the coil cover in the closet and put a coat of marine epoxy on the bottom. Dave

I do not know, I have never had a failure in a coil except for the sheeting covering the wires....way out of warranty.

In my opinion, the most pressure on your shaft is when you are moving it in water or when you have water rushing by it. The coil is the heaviest part, putting all the pressure on the portion of the shaft above the coil. Personally I do not want to weaken that portion of the shaft. Due to water weight, sand, the ease of taking the shaft apart....keep the water/sand out to begin with. I have drilled a hole in the end cap of my custom straight shaft by my arm. When I am done I just point the coil in the air and if a drop or two comes out that is a lot. D

A few people here have been talking about issues/problems with salt water detecting. I will address a few of the problems and solutions. Your scoop......When putting your travel scoop together do so with some heavy white grease on both portions. Then Put electricians tape around the seam. This will keep water and sand out, also allows the white grease to remain longer. Every month re-do it. Coil covers... Throw the coil cover in your closet. It has no place being on a detector in the water. To protect the bottom of the coil take JB weld or two part marine epoxy and brush a thin layer all over the bottom side. Mine will last about a year, just touch-up missing areas as necessary. Your shaft....PLEASE do not drill lower holes... Again use a heavy White Grease to put your shaft together. Also use Black Electricians tape to cover all water/sand entry points. If you have issues with the tape unwinding use silicone caulk on the last 1" or so. Same as the scoop about monthly just remove the tape and re-do the connection. point. Edit/add......if you are breaking in a new coil to be coated with epoxy, it is better if you do run it in the sand some to dull the surface of the factory coating. The epoxy will adhere better...of course clean well before applying. Dave

Partially taking you advise. Off for a 3-4hr Salt water hunt. D

Well that is a disappointing answer. I just want to say you are the one stating these two machine are identical. If your not sure where does that leave me? That the difference in Iron Bias adjustment and I will throw in recovery speed adjustment as well.........maybe these machines are not the same! Also to mention a PI machine in the same breath with an Equinox is a horrible comparison in my opinion. Dave

So Steve Assuming one wants one of these machines to hunt salt water. How can one justify the Iron Bias settings between the two detectors? The 600 comes preset at 2, The 800 comes preset at 6..............The 600 has a max setting of 3..........This seems like a complete disconnect. And yes I know a 3 setting on a 600 is 6 on the 800. But the 600 is missing settings 7 and 8. Am I really going to be able to get rid of bobby pins and nails at the beach with the 600? Dave

If the audio only comes through the speaker and NOT the headphones........the detector will be worthless to me. So is there a ruling on this? Dave

I am not so sure the iron bias will make a difference or "see" black sand at all. After all it is multi-freq that cuts black sand in conjunction with sensitivity and threshold. Once a detectable target is passed under the coil then iron bias will come into play. Even Minelab's own definition mentions nothing about soils conditions.

That was fairly painful to watch. Aluminum will work great in Salt Water. I did catch the part where they had to turn sensitivity down......my beach has more black sand than the one they were on.

Wow...they look exactly like 10 Peso Mexican coins.

What coins are those with the brass colored outside and silver color inside? Dave

Now if you could only get what is in that picture to me in Mexico right now! I could have many questions answered in 48hrs. PS, Had a two gold ring day yesterday!

Well that is good. There is no other phone I want to run on the beach other than Black Widows! Dave

I find that at 55 there is no need to bend over and go to the ground to pull silver coins out when I can stand and pull gold off the beach. I have had a sovereign since the XS. Is there any machine really better than the GT in wet salt. NO. I am not getting NOX yet, mainly because I am already on my 4 month detecting sabbatical. Will be listening closely and I think there is one member here that knows the BBS tech. well and between him and his group I will know soon enough. Dave

To to help one confused person and to clarify. If you know your detector as much as I do. The Excal and GT will both loose performance if you have moving water[salt water] past your coil [as in a wave coming up and back out the beach]. Yesterday there were several targets I came back to because I thought I heard something. When the water was out a CLEAR faint signal would repeat. So if the NOX is going to have any salt, it will need to be stable both with some black sand around and with moving salt water. On most days the beach I hunt I can be over waist deep and have 15' feet of wet sand to the water standing in the same spot. Anyone who does not understand your Excal and GT looses performance with a wave coming and going does not know their machine very well. Dave

OK That video! Well let me tell ya! That coin would have blown my ears off on my GT. I need stability in salt and MOVING SALT WATER! Dave

I don't FB someone translate.

OK, Does Minelab not say you need all of the frequencies of the 800 to do beach mode? Or do both machines have a beach mode? Dave

I saw a NOX video where there was a chunk of iron among clad/high conductive coins and the NOX ignored the chunk of iron. So I m going to go out on a limb and say "what stinkin bottle caps" Dave