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The FG+ and The FR and are very Similar..

And that was one of the things during testing that we were concerned about..

its a FG+ and at first did not have a lot of Identity ...BUT after some tweaks..I honestly feel the FR can stand alone as a unit with its own Identity..A relic identity..and believe me it is hard to outdo the FG+ in my eyes..But Alper worked off the challenge...Yes he more or less was Challenged  in an email to Keep the whole FG+ DNA but push it harder...and low and behold He did it..

What I see from my Proto is More power across the Board conductivity wise over the FG+ ..((There's a reason it's hotter on High conductors than a FG+ but that's another story))..

We also have the Variable tone Break and it does offer  better unmasking..

And I want to say something and I hate to mention it because I wanted to see other's maybe notice it but I think maybe it should be mentioned...the actual Iron Volume is more than just Volume.. its also a Audio processor of sorts especially below 3 it clips and compresses and turns the iron tone into a Tick.and I dare say it unmask better..the Non ferrous tone is still full gusto but the iron tone is Tick sounding..I love it...Couple with a small coil and compare side by side with anything on the market and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised using low iron volume and exact tone break ...

I truly feel Alper is the magic behind the units we are appreciating as of late....he's doing things inside the programming  that truly is noticeable....not just moving settings around like on a DEUS like more reactivity and such but actual Parameters throughout the unit is adjusted for the outcome to be More unmasking...He knows when he changes something here he has to go change something somewhere else..Hes a 3 year employee and I feel if he stays with detector design we may see a true revolution taking place..

There's nothing wrong with the FG+ especially for the Gold Guys/Relic hunters BUT as Much as I love the FG+ I REQUIRE a FR as of now..

I see enough Deep inside the programming to make me REQUIRE it for my needs..

Good astute questioning Steve!

Keith

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Keith, can you answer Steve's question, "does the FR have iSat in all metal?"

Thanks

Dang it guys, you trying to get me divorced? Haha. 

 

Californiagold, please do post some relics !  I know this sounds wierd, but I prefer a killer relic over a nugget! And you may be surprised.. a buckle my buddy found while out recently, he just sold for more than an oz of gold goes for. Its this one..

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I know what your sayin Ray, but I was talkin about real junk,  like modern bullets or old rusty junk. but they did find a bunch of coins in  an old tin can. ever since then when I see an old mining camp by some diggings, I switch to disc and go for coins. none yet. but I have found 12 old coins in gold diggings.  And a few other valuable items. I have a few left. most I gave to my aunt. Shes  a collector.  Which comes back to me when shes gone. I will try to get a photo on here soon. 

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Welcome to the forum Don!!

Anyone but a White's user has got along without V/SAT or iSAT all these years so while it may be irritating it is hardly a deal killer. Not a Gold Bug Pro out there with that control and that is a super popular machine. I certainly would not have two machines if faced with that choice. Prospectors generally tend to just prospect so the Gold+ is an easy choice. If I wanted to spend half my time prospecting and half coin or relic detecting or whatever, I would get the Relic without fear of suffering unduly. I almost never employed the V/SAT control on my MXT or GMT and have not really used iSAT on my Gold Racer either. However, if you have used it a lot and consider it to be an essential control I guess that is another matter.

iSAT helps to smooth out the threshold on variable mineralized bedrock. I have the Gold Bug Pro for getting the crumbs. It drives me nuts at times. Usually, I use the SDC or SD2100V2 for the bigger stuff. I was hoping the relic would be maxed out for gold as well. iSAT would be just another setting/tool to help hear tiny signals in highly mineralized ground.

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Nokta and Makro seems to have had a plan all along. Step one was to engage the potential market cheaply via the internet and to work interactively to develop new products. More importantly, the bugs needed to be worked out.

With stable products developed, step two appears to be written magazine reviews, with some appearing now and more coming soon. Here is one on the new Nokta FORS Relic

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