Steve Herschbach Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I have not had any issues with ground balance per se with the FORS Gold. The one spot where hot rocks were bothering me I just put it in tracking and they magically went away. However - I still consider myself a newbie on the machine with experience at a limited number of locations. I use a PI most of the time. The FORS or Racer are still VLF detectors and they have not cracked some secret code. My expectation is they well do about as well as can be expected of a VLF but that is it. Some places they will just be no good. I am happy to report a reliable gent in Australia is giving the FORS a go in really bad ground, and while it is not acting like a PI, neither is it failing. Be a good guy to watch for some solid reporting. Narrawa at http://australiangoldfields.freeforums.org/nokta-makro-fors-gold-t3468.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I added the accessory price list to the first post at the top of the page. Very affordable, I hate getting ripped off for accessory coils. You look at what Makro can sell coils for, and they are really great coils by the way, and you have to ask why the other guys are charging what they are. It is just wire in plastic. Notice the Bluetooth headphones? Philips SHB7000 Bluetooth Headphones. These are standard Bluetooth 3.0 headphones and so any 3.0 compatible phones should work. You can buy just the Bluetooth module for $99 and use whatever headphones you want. Just keeps looking better all the time. The Phillips phones are also wired via an accessory cord so if the battery goes dead you can just plug them in. Here is the Owners Manual for the headphones http://download.p4c.philips.com/files/s/shb7000wt_28/shb7000wt_28_dfu_aen.pdf They are shown as discontinued by manufacturer at Amazon, but they get good reviews there Amazon SHB7000 page Racer Metal Detector Accessories Manufacturer’s Suggested Resale Price RC13 - DD Search Coil - (13cmx12cm - 5''X4.5'') $109.00 RC26 - DD Search Coil - (26cmx14cm - 10''x5.5'') $139.00 RC29 - DD Search Coil - (29cmx18.5cm - 11''x7'') $159.00 RC40 - DD Search Coil - (40cmx33.5cm - 15.5''X13'') $249.00 RC13 - Search Coil Cover $9.00 RC26 - Search Coil Cover $15.00 RC29 - Search Coil Cover $19.00 RC40 - Search Coil Cover $29.00 Carrying Bag $49.00 Rain Covers (Set of 2) $29.00 Treasure Pouch $9.00 Charging Kit (AC & Car Charger 4 x AA Rechargeable Batteries) $49.00 Cap with Official Makro Logo $15.00 T-Shirt with Official Makro Logo $15.00 Koss Headphone - KPH7 $20.00 Philips SHB7000 Bluetooth Headphones and Dongle $179.00 Bluetooth Dongle Only (BT module) $99.00 Middle Rod $32.00 Lower Rod $16.00 Armrest $28.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokta Detectors Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 Steve, what can I say? You are just great! As I was about to make the attempt to post the accessory prices, I see them posted here already... you just saved my time. By the way, need to clarify something regarding the BT module - yes it will be sold separately for people who want to buy the Philips headphones on their own or for people who have it already. It is true that the module will work with other BT headphones BUT we cannot guarantee the performance as the module was developed and tested for the Philips model we offer only. We have no way of testing it with all BT headphones out there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hillis Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 This thing will probably storm the country. Value Value Value HHMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klunker Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 My thanks to Nokta for communicating with the folks that actually use detectors. Gold brick;- I have a P.I. detector that has nearly 100% accurate discrimination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourdough Scott Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Just wondering if there is any delay in using the Bluetooth headphones? I've heard other detectors had some issues in using wireless headphones. The delay causing to not properly pinpoint the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Just wondering if there is any delay in using the Bluetooth headphones? I've heard other detectors had some issues in using wireless headphones. The delay causing to not properly pinpoint the target. Yeah, I have heard the same thing. It would not surprise me if there was a lag but we will see. It might create a lag on target reaction which would bug people like me that never use the pinpoint trigger. It would not effect a non-motion pinpoint mode though so worst case I would have to use the darn trigger.There are low latency Bluetooth options available these days. For people like me that need to study up on it, here is a good reference http://theheadphonelist.com/wireless-fidelity-making-sense-bluetooth-headphone-technology/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick K - First Member Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I emailed them about this when I first heard they were going wireless and it out the Bluetooth had too much latency for metal detector use. Dilek replied that she had checked with engineering and that they had a technology which didn't have that problem – hopefully that's correct - here's the email. "Thank you Rick...just checked and I was told that by the engineers that they are aware and currently we do not have a latency issue..." Dilek -----Original Message----- From: Rick Kempf [mailto:rickkempf@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 4:42 PM To: Dilek Gönülay Subject: Re: Comgrats on your company's fusion with Makro Thanks Dilek! I will see how much free time my masters allow me in AD first!! One thing I'd like to mention however. I noted this morning in a post that you were considering Bluetooth for wireless detector phone use. I have dealt with Bluetooth latency issues with wireless devices before and it is a serious issue. I believe that your competitors use dedicated low latency modules from TI and perhaps others to overcome this. Latency in a detector would make for very annoying delays in coil response while it is swung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokta Detectors Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Hello all...as I will be out of the office for 1 week, I may not be able to respond to posts on time or miss some. I apologize in advance. I check my emails more easily so you can contact me at dilek@noktadetectors.com for any urgent assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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