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One downside of the XP brand is service. I have 2 XP's and while the detectors are pretty bombproof they seem to have many cables and do dads that are subpar (break easy/items to lose). I also own Minelab and cant say enough good things about their customer support. They are always a phone call away. Pretty much around the clock. If USA is closed then I just call Australia. With all that said, If you gave me just one detector.... XP Deus 2 w/11" coil. Hands down.

I’m not surprised I wasn’t finding other items for two reasons: first off I was honed in on the bullet range. There were lots of tin cans, pop cans, pull tab can lids, etc., so I wasn’t digging most of the larger items with the exception of a couple that seem to stand out (like the ointment tin). The second reason is this was not part of the camp, but was separated from the camp by a waterway. Be that as it may, somebody did find what they thought was part of a button, and somebody found a large rectangular single piece buckle (?) roughly the size of a 3 x 5 card with a slot cut on both ends. There were no apparent markings on that in the field.

If I am understanding correctly, the “Lands“ in the barrel would translate to grooves in the bullet. For the following, I am referring to grooves in the bullets which would be lands in the barrel. I apologize if I’m not referring to this correctly. There doesn’t seem to be any consistency between the bullets. Some bullets have grooves about 3/32” wide, others seem to have grooves about 5/16” wide, some just have grooves which are literally just a scratch down the side. Some of them do not appear to have any grooves whatsoever. On some of the bullets with more regular grooves, they appear to be spaced 1/4 inch apart with about eight of them per bullet. Some bullets seem to have irregular spacing with two groves 1/4” apart followed by a gap of 3/8”. I don’t have a caliper, so my best guess is most of these are between 9/16 and 10/16 inch and diameter. Some of them are hard to measure since they are no longer round. On the three smaller (pistol?) bullets with equally sized smaller rings, there does not appear to be any rifling marks on two, and very small “scratch“ lines on the third one (the one with an extra ring around the nose cone which may indicate a newer bullet). Would pistols have been rifled?

I'll add a few thoughts about my experience with the E1500. But I first want to thank Steve for lending it to me for a week to do some testing with it. After I tested it, we meet up in Nevada where Steve pulled the nugget. So yea, it will find gold. When I got the E1500, I tried it a few different places, including the park, relic hunting and some testing on small gold nuggets. First go around was at a local park that dates back to the late 1800's. I was hoping to get over a deep nickel or silver dime. I dug several targets that I thought possibly could be nickels based on the target ID, all of which turned out to be Pull tabs or shreds of aluminum. I never could get over a target that had an ID similar to a penny or dime, so I finally resorted to using the Manticore to find a deep target that I thought was either a penny or a dime. The target ID was very jumpy on the Manticore, which indicated it was close to It's depth limits. Then I grabbed the E1500 and went over the same target. It sounded good. Giving a low tone, but the target ID came in at 99. Now my dirt is very mineralized. And so in that regard, I think the Manticore and the E1500 we're at edge of detection. The target turned out to be a wheat penny at eight inches. The next thing I tried was relic hunting I took it to a few places. The first place I took it to was a field that is mainly full of bullets, occasionally you'll find a button and some other items, but for the most part its all CivilWar era bullets. There's very little iron in this field. So I thought it'd be a good first test for the E1500 and it's target ID. You can watch the video in the first post to see how that went. Next up was a field a few blocks away where the fort was located. This filled has everything from square nails to buttons to bullets to coins. A lot more challenging for the E1500 and like all PI's struggled with the dense trash. I found out very quickly that testing every signal in the pinpoint mode to get an idea of what's under the coil is very time consuming. In addition, like Steve has stated in past posts, there's lots of iron targets that ID all over the target ID spectrum. It dug a few U shaped fence past nails that have the same ID as a bullet. Finally I buried some small gold nuggets in the very mineralized dirt near my house and used 4 detectors to compare signals. This dirt maxes out the mineral scale on the Dues 2. Below are the results. Gold nuggets used .03 about 1.5" deep .063 about 1.5" deep .15 about 3" deep .22 about 3.5" deep Results in order from top down Manticore M8 coil YES YES NO NO GPX 6000 5X9 YES ALL AXIOM 7X11 DD NO NO NO YES E1500 8" MONO NO NO NO NO So not the greatest results overall in all the testing I did with the E1500 compared to other VLF and PI'S on the market. However, for the price I still feel like it would be a good first move for anyone wanting to buy their first pulse induction metal detector.

Hi all, I was trying to search for gold on the slope with Nokta Legend today. With Gold mode, single frequency 40 khz. Discrim mode "G" (1-2 closed) Threshold is also included. I did not find anything, except for fragments of rusty iron and nails with coins. Who tried to search with Nokta legend? Share your experience, what VDI of gold should be and at what size?

The first day of touring New Zealand we went to Waihi. On the way there we went through an old gold district. It was quite stunning for the first day. https://photos.app.goo.gl/g5Qy7MBLNufuRReX8

Well now that is a mistake! Nothing like cutting your own throat for a buck. It was also a mistake to take the Gpx4500 & Gpx5000 out of the line up.

We used to use TP as flagging tied to a bush at each end of our transect walks when griddling for archaeological surface surveys, you can easily see it from the opposite end of your grid to help you keep walking each transect leg in a straight line. It also doesn’t stay long in the environment if you miss picking them up afterwards.

Nice gold Ceril ! 👍

Mitchell, if you have OnXHunt you can drop a pin and color code it as well as an icon for it. It really helps me see a direction of gold travel

That is commonly referred to as "Leaverite." When you find a specimen like that, Leaverite where you found it.

A roll of fluorescent orange flagging tape is easy to keep in a pack. Just rip a piece off as needed, tie to a rock, put it over a target. I use it for gridding too. If vegetation gets high you can tie to a branch instead of tossing a rock on the ground. When I'm working with field geologists this is how they mark stuff too, picked it up from them. I found carrying flags, cones, etc too inconvenient, you can fit 100's of targets worth of flagging tape into a small backpack pocket though and no metal.

I received my E1500! China

This is the area that Simon is talking about: https://photos.app.goo.gl/g5Qy7MBLNufuRReX8

I guess I'll cop to being the guy that has had one of these for several months and loaned it to Andy for a while. I'll be sending it to Gerry soon to give a spin for any comments he might have. I have used the E1500 in the desert, found a gold nugget with it, first in the U.S. I suppose. Also have some time on the Tahoe beaches. My main thing was to check the machine for EMI issues in the U.S. and I can say the machine has none. In that regard it's as good or better than most PI detectors and works fine in urban parks. As far as my general thoughts on the machine I already spilled the beans in an earlier thread. People should know by now I very rarely opinionate without something to back up those opinions. I really don't have much to add to what I already posted so you can check it out below. All in all the Algoforce E1500 is a great addition to the PI possibilities out there. I see it mainly as a first affordable step up for people used to what a good VLF costs and who do not think a good PI should cost much more. Hard core PI users will opt for the more powerful and more expensive options. But for the people out there who are mainly VLF users and who want a PI for a second detector without breaking the bank I can very much recommend the E1500 as a great place to start. The caveat being that for that to happen here it has to become available for sale in the U.S. and there is still zero word on if or when that might happen. That's my excuse for not posting sooner. It is all moot for most people in the U.S. until that day comes. I guess I can add this one thing on coils. I used both the Sadie and Coiltek Elite for nugget detecting and in general prefer the Elite. It's the smallest spiral wound coil you can get and is the one you see in Andy's video. The Sadie is lighter but like most mono coils is edge sensitive and therefore has an uneven response on tiny gold. The Coiltek Elite is hottest in the center so acts more like people expect and overall performs better than the Sadie. For beach use on heavy magnetite I have had good results with the older style Nugget Finder 14x9 Advantage and a Coiltek 11x8 Platypus mono I managed to track down. With these older bundle wound coils the E1500 handled heavy magnetite better than more powerful detectors that tend to suffer from blowback in extreme magnetite conditions. I prefer the lighter Advantage for dry sand use and the Platypus for wading since it is weight neutral underwater. Thanks Andy for shooting some video and doing some things that I would never have got around to doing. I'm sure he will add further thoughts on this thread.

Finds update from two trips so far this spring using 6K+NF 7x12. The 7 nuggets to the left of the dime in second pic are from a new small patch I discovered, largest nug is 1.7g.

Mitch, l have used the Construction Flags you can get at Home Depot or Lowe’s. Wire is sturdy and the Orange Flags are easy to see. Good luck! Rick

@abenson just put out a new video.

Mitchell, I use those yellow plastic knives and forks you buy at Dollar Tree 48 for $1.29. HH Jim

Good post Steve! And thanks for cleaning up this thread and keeping it on track!!

Can anyone identify what's going on here ? There is a powdery substance between the two layers.

Also thanks for the reply mate

In south cork Ireland . Is chert an option ?

I had my own dream of running White's at one point and like you think a lot could have been done to save the company. All water under the bridge now and no point in discussing a cold grave. I'm sure some people will be using White's detectors for many years, just like they are still using Tesoro and even Compass detectors. And that means people will be looking for parts, etc. Detector discussions are largely driven by speculation around new models, comparisons of new models, and learning about how to use new models. In other words discussion revolves more around new models in general and obviously that can't happen with White's. Just so people know however, I'm happy with the slow but steady discussion on this forum and it's not going anywhere for those who do have a question or comment now and then.... or who are trying to find that certain part. Luckily White's was very popular and anyone looking for parts has a ready supply via old detectors for sale on eBay. I want to take the opportunity to thank Carl (Geotech) for hanging out here and offering insights from somebody that was actually on the scene. Thanks Carl.