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Beach hunt # 25 was the following day at the same beach, this time using the 5000 for only 5 hours. Commitments in the morning didn’t allow me to get to the beach until just before noon. I was excited to see if the 5000 could get more deep coins in the area that the 6000 did. The section I concentrated on was about 200 ft long and I did 3 passes (so about 25 ft wide). No gold this time but really happy with the silver count. For some reason people did not get the Buffalo and war nickels. I’ve never found this many at this beach before. I’ll probably go back next time and hit another similar stretch that I did with the 6000. My biggest mistake of the day was that I didn’t pay attention to the lowering tide. When I glanced over late in the day, I could see big boulders sticking out of the water, where there were none before. I wonder how much gold was exposed with that amount of sand removed. I may try it if it’s still exposed and give the Equinox some time out there. I do not have the next day available, so I have to wait until Thursday. You never know what you are going to find condition wise, until you get there. This beach was bland for many months, but now it lit up. I wish I was retired and could hunt every day!

Until the next storm 😄

Beach hunt # 24 was to be my final trip to the EMI beach. I started out early so I could have a full day hunting. I had areas that I wanted to finish up, and the GPX 6000 was the machine that was going to finish this beach up (or maybe not?). It lasted 8 hours and after the 2nd low battery warning I decided to call it quits. It did well, but the junk targets were not lacking, and I was getting tired, but I still had about a half hour of daylight left. So, I decided to pull out the 5000 which I brought just in case. It had the 14” anti-interference coil on it, so I wouldn’t have to listen to that train EMI. I didn’t like the coil at first, as I felt I was losing too much depth, but this time around I got a little more involved with it. Because time was short, I figured I would just hunt the last area that I just did with the 6000. First target was a silver dime at about 10” Hmmm. In just a few minutes, I realized there needed to be a return trip here. I think the 6000 was doing what it was designed to do and high conductors at depth was not it’s strong point. The 5000 absolutely hit targets (both high and low conductors) that the 6000 did not hear. Those targets were just beyond it’s reach. I can’t complain because the 6000 did hit a couple of silver coins and some small silver jewelry. It also hit what’s left of Susan’s gold bracelet. It was nice to see gold in the sand no matter how small it was. So, 8 ½ hours and a long ride home was all I could do. But the drive home still had me wondering about the rest of the areas I had already done. It was cleansed of tiny targets by the 6000, so maybe a return visit the following day was in order??? I think I already know the answer to that one. Fun in the sun is what it’s all about.

Nice earlier dates on the Seated. Not a ton of wear on them, so they were lost fairly new. Great finds....I love seated coins.

Nice Indian. I see a fair number of 1865's and 1869's, but not very many 1868's. Nice semi key date coin!

Maybe a small door knocker.

I guess it's not a good fit for you then. Hope you don't lose too much on selling it

You call that trash? 😄 Come up north and I'll show you trash. Those fields sound like heaven. The potential targets you could find go way back in time. Anytime you are digging Tombac you are getting into GW button territory.

I think if I paid for a machine from a reputable manufacturer like Deus, I would at least try it out. Don't rely on people saying good or bad things about a machine, just listen to them and then try it for yourself. If I wanted to showcase any one of my machines in a good or bad light, I could do that and some people would end up letting me make up their mind. I could make my 5000 out to be a coin monster at depth, (which it is) and people would love it, or I could show it screeching and pulsating due to EMI, (which it can do) and people would hate it. I guess the Deus II is going to be just like any other release. Some people in love with it and some great used deals to be had 😄

You poor guy!! Maybe you should call BBB or better yet order another one and see what happens 🤭....😄

It sounds like the heavier objects (coins) would get trapped in the lower part of the ripple, but the light objects (foil, pull tabs, small aluminum) would get pulled out farther to sea. If that's the case then I would be happy with what you are getting and I would dig everything in all metal, even if it was a bad, broken sounding signal. If I can hear any sound, I would dig it. The gold may be deeper than the coins are.

I use the headphones that come with the 6000. They are nicer than the nox ones. I don't think you could extend the battery time with an external set up. I never hurt from the long hunts .....until later 😨 Beach hunting is all that is available for me to hunt, so I do it. It's always fun when you get silver, not so much fun when you get skunked 😄 I haven't tried wax on the bottom, but I will if the snow continues. That was just a weird situation that had snow in the area I needed to be. Not being tethered to the machine is a big plus over the 5000. The EMI cancellation with the 14" coil is easier on the ears than the 5000, but the 5000 still wins on coins at depth. In this situation, the coins were in the 10-11" range as opposed to the 15-18" range I usually hunt. The 6000 could hit those shallower ones, so I took advantage of that and had a more pleasant hunt. One disadvantage with the 6000 is that I would have like to have some control over target volume and stabilizer like on the 5000. Also I would have like to get more gain from it but you are limited to whatever the internal parameters are. You can't really adjust anything much on it. But if I had my choice between the two, it would always be the 5000. You water guys work harder than us land guys. I bet I wouldn't last 3 hours in the water 😞 The drawback on land is that target acquisition is faster and easier than in the water, so you dig a lot more. I just turned 60 a bit ago, so I'm taking advantage of it while I can. By the time I get to 70 an 8 hour hunt will probably be more like 3 or 4 trips, not 1, so I'm going to dig until I can't. After that I'm going to talk to the young people detecting and bother them with old stories until the tell me to get lost 😆

Or you could just e mail them or call them and ask them directly?? Would be interesting to hear if they reply to you and what they would say. I agree, the language is broad for a reason. If you don't trash your machine and it leaks by just using it normally, then I'm betting they would cover it.

That's my problem 🙄 I think I'm 17 again. 😄 My beach day is my one day per week that I actually get any real exercise. It's the thrill of the hunt that makes it fun. If I ever get lost wandering and find my way to your place, I'll clean that patch up for you in a day 😊 Or you can pay my flight down there and I can become a gold nugget hunter.

Sometimes you just have to try something new. I hope it works out for you and wasn't too expensive. Chapter 6 (Troubleshooting) in the manual, may tell you all of the problems you may have. Those would probably be the best things to try and get better at doing. I'm thinking EMI may be an issue as well as small targets, but you never know. It will be interesting to hear how you like it.

Beach hunt # 23 was a continuation of the heavy EMI beach I hunted last week. I was eager to get back there for more silver but was not looking forward to hearing all that EMI in the GPX 5000 headphones. 😭 So, I decided to take the 6000 out with the 14” coil set to EMI cancel. I also brought the 5000 with a 14” anti-interference coil on it, just in case the 6000 was not what I was looking for. I was hoping to get enough depth for the deeper coins that were left there but was also looking for some micro gold. Well, I got the micro part down, but I forgot the gold part. 😄 Lots of tiny targets but none of them precious. Big iron hit pretty good at depth, but I really didn’t want to be digging train spikes at 15”. The 6000 lasted the whole 8 hours with the machine battery just about to die (warning shot was given). The headphones lasted 8 hours which was nice to know, as I expected them to die earlier. Lots and lots of trash targets but a couple of keepers as well. Some of those tiny copper discs were really hard to locate with the pinpointer. The 3 war nickels were the first 3 coins I dug, and they had that black crumbly appearance which only war nickels usually get. I was skeptical that I could find 3 war nickels in a row, but when I got home that’s what they were. 2 Buffalo nickels round out the day. So, I may do one last trip to this beach next time out and call it done for a while. I’m happy to get some more time in on the 6000. Happy to just be digging.

Yep, It gave us issues in Fairfield CT while I was doing a metal detecting project there, and also in eastern CT as well, where I usually am detecting. Some machines can cover the EMI, but never totally. Depth drops by at least 30% from what I can tell.

I can't wait for that test. Those trains are killers to depth. I spent all day today hunting at a beach where the train is within 30 feet. If you get a chance to bury something while the tracks are not as active, and then as they are active, it would be interesting to see how much loss there is. If you are testing the same rail as I hunt, I'll be shocked if you can get that machine silent.

Indians and Buffalo make it a nice hunt. 1894 is a semi key date I think. Is that a lead round ball near the bottom center of the picture??

Speaking of EMI, I am probably heading to that EMI beach this Thursday, but was going to see how the 6000 handles the EMI. I hunted this last visit with the EQ and 5000, and each had a rough go at it. I'm sure I missed a lot. This beach does not move much, so conditions haven't changed from last hunt. We will see if the 6000 has any new EMI tricks or is it has the same old problem we always face. Until someone tackles EMI from another angle, we are all doomed to lower depth. I hope the OP and the Deus are not more susceptible to EMI than other machines, and that the no signal on the Deus is just a glitch of some sorts. But after watching the video, I think proximity may be the culprit. That would really suck for Deus owners if that ends up being real.

It may be the fact that Deus uses a wireless coil system? That would make interfering easier and more intense, I would think??? Every detector loses depth as another detector gets closer and there is no way to easily test that other than burying dime a 7" and have someone slowly approach you until you either lose the signal or it sound terrible.

So I have no experience on the Deus but had seen an original Deus in action on some relic hunts. It was an interesting machine but lacked the depth needed in that particular area. But it intrigues me as it offers a lot of control (like my GPX 5000 does) and like my 6000 DOES NOT. So, I'd like to hear more about the Deus II and wondered if anyone has really looked at these particular controls. I looked over the Deus posts, but can't find the post I was looking for, so excuse my ignorance if I'm not saying this correctly. I remember someone talking about being able to adjust the salt setting (sensitivity?) as well as a general sensitivity setting. Was there also a iron sensitivity of some sorts too? I feel the salt control along with any other iron and general sensitivity setting is what I'm very interested in. Those seem to me as the most important settings on that machine. Has anyone played around with matching them for maximum depth yet. I know a lot of the first impressions are screen related and ease of use related, but I'm thinking the matching of those settings is what is going to set the Deus II apart from other MF/VLF machines. Thoughts?

Awesome!!!

Beach hunt # 22 was a spur of the moment beach hunt. I remember someone talking about my EMI beach and how the last storm really exposed and removed a lot of sand. Unfortunately, that was a little while ago now, so I wasn’t expecting much to be left there. I decided it would be an Equinox day looking for tiny gold jewelry. The tides weren’t very low, so the slopes would be smaller than I wanted them to be. I worked the Equinox for about 3 hours and only had one tiny stud and a lot of small junk targets. So, I decided to wander up in the EMI area and see what was left there. It took a bit to get the sensitivity and settings set for EMI, and I ended up being able to have a consistent 20 sensitivity setting. First good hit was a copper penny followed by a white (tumbled) looking nickel. I though Jefferson but it was a Buffalo. 😲 Wow, I just found my spot! Only managed 1 more buffalo and some zincs, so I decided to trade the EQ in for a GPX. I knew it was going to be extremely noisy with the train EMI, but there are times it’s quiet. I opted to hunt in cancel mode and take the hit on depth in trade for my sanity. Worked well, but the snow that was there sticks really good to the coil, making that 11” coil feel like a brick. I did manage to figure out the best way to remove the snow without kicking the coil. If it gets too heavy just press the coil into more snow and pull backwards. The snow on the coil sticks to the snow below and slips off the coil. The GPX hit a lot more coins and all the silver, but at the expense of a ton of iron. That’s the trade off in running in cancel mode. You are already losing depth from cancel mode, along with about 2” of snow, so the bigger iron comes through nice and clear, but the smaller targets are very soft sounding. I didn’t want to lose any deeper coins, so I dug it all as to not mask anything. This is silver and gold territory with all the sand removed and I wanted to make sure I didn’t leave any. I may hit that beach again next visit and see what turns up. Always a pleasure to dig some sand. 🙂

I ran my EQ today at a beach and had recovery running at 2 (that's on the EQ 800) It goes deep that way, as long as you swing slower. It also seems to elongate the signal more, which helps hear it in the first place. That's really good depth for a 5x10 coil. Hope you can get back there for another hunt.