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Be interesting to hear a dub on whats being said. It comes to mind of OKM but in a box unit. Maybe it'd be better to set the trigger on the unit instead of tapping the phone.

My thanks to you as well Steve. Been following ya for years and will continue to do so though I'm still a little regretful never getting upto Gains Creek all those years ago. I'd like to add a big THANKS to Minelab as well for allowing you to distribute what information you have to us on the release of this and other very advanced detectors. From what it sounds like your going Pro with R&D so hopefully that will pan for you and your developers to kick some tid bits our way as you go into the future. Good On Ya Mate DD

Look for information in your area for areas that are producing and how they are producing it. If possible try to get together with locals in that area for a bit of training. In your research note area's were the gold is relatively shallow and recovery is done by hand then apply what you learn from reading up on geology to look for area's like that. Historical accounts can help a lot as well. Reg said it best, Dig It All, because if you go into those historic areas your going to dig a lot of trash but once you hit gold SLOW DOWN and really work it. Dont leave gold to find gold. I'm sure you'll run into lots of stories of where gold was found but I dont recommend chasing them no matter how fresh they might seem. You find it and you stay on it. Good luck.

OZ is my favorite place to detect gold or coin :) Make you a convert for sure JP Good on you and your Mate! There is gold in those parks to ;) lots of lost Abo's and Kangaroo's but its a thrill to dig 3 pence 10 pence shillings and fluorine's along with the old big penny's as well. Lots of good stuff down under.

Looks like they are already being found :) https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/01/18/michigan-meteor-meteorite-whitmore-lake/1044529001/

So far the armies have begun beating the drums. Just following the reading here and there a lot of ground has been laid for those taking notes and for the eventual commentaries. Hopefully Steve's shot over the bow here consolidates the figurative fighting into a solid thread.

Just a side note but you can catch a few other glimpse's in the ML video : Someone has definitely been working on the board pictured here ;)

Steve has been pretty firm in his thoughts about "Depth". I don't feel its an issue. Sweep speed has been somewhat covered and the bottom line has been consistently that the EQ is a very fast machine when it comes to target separation. As to a sweet spot in the video's that have been released its not hard to figure out where it is. As with a DD construction its pretty consistent that its in the middle of the coil somewhat forward of the shaft and I'll bet there is a second one aft like any DD. Having watched the video's and the way they are sweeping then I feel your thoughts on slowing the sweep, using the sweet spot should lead to deeper finds. The separation of targets is the thing one needs as well as higher reliability of target information but a fast sweep will muttle those signals in target dense environments. The Russian video is pretty good. Check it out. Also Steve has some things to say in his Mercury Dime Teaser thread *a few pages back in this forum*. My thoughts.

Heck Exchange can even be used for registration and tracking if you get you stuff ripped off. My thoughts and some thoughts to ML. The OS can transmit this data and even register new users for warranty..... well random thoughts........

I edited a few times in that last post. However the Exchange program provides an instant access to upgrades or updates even if its bug fixing. One shop shopping and for user profiles, even if the EQ is a down grade for coordinate mapping, these are easily incorporated I think. If ML is going the way of online updating its a good way to do it and saves users from scratching their heads. *edit* and for user profiles a way to save and retrieve data for hunts.

I will treasure that response. *evil grin* Not often I can get one in on a Master. *no bust on you just amused Steve* But seriously the EQ does not support the CTX or the Zed for user profiles or find locks so its a question.... unless ML intends to support updates thru their site(s). It'd be inconvenient to have to find updates in a search and anyone who uses the CTX or Zed has this progam( Exchange2)... even if the program (Exchange) is still no go for the Zed from the last update as I understand it. I consider this a valid question seeing as the last flagship, the GPZ 7000, received updates that have been most beneficial to the performance of the platform. I dont know about any CTX updates, however it is suspect they have occurred, as its something I've never used or looked into... not my cuppa for the price and technicalities to understand the CTX.

I may have missed it in the literature somewhere but is it known whether the EQ will be supported on the Exchange2 for updating or is it getting its own platform?

Indeed! But if you press the fourth button a magical back hoe deploys and digs for you I suspect. LOL Look forward to the wars myself, elsewhere, but I'm content to sit on the fence a bit longer.

In my experience DD coils are more adept at handling ferrous ground conditions and salts. To my understanding this is due to the construction of the coil. With the range of frequencies the EQ is handling in multi-modes I suspect its the best coil for the job on a wide range of conditions thus why ML is supplying them. Ease of programming. I understand other multi-frequency machines are adept with concentric coils so I'm no knocking that coil type however I suspect it would take some tweeking of the EQ programming to handle a concentric coil. Something that may or may not be in the works over at ML. Considering the ML coils are chipped I don't see an after market coil any time soon, example being the 7000 and the rumors of an after market coil there.

While I'm still debating the two models I already have two test parks in mind that will give a yea or nay on the EQ. I call them test parks because they have been flogged regularly by each wand I've possessed and that is the telling information to me. I just hope I get there before the detector club down the road does ;)

Well put Doc. However I'll stay with the original saying and that is not to be harmful, hateful or misleading. I consider the saying a prompt for young prospectors to dig into whats required to find it. I usually follow up the saying with information and tips to point them, young prospectors, the right way and encourage research in to how to go about prospecting. I've honestly run into to many "gold diggers" not to use the phrase and put them off however when I run into genuine people who are trying they get the benefit and the prompt to do better. The saying is also a disingenuous way of telling a seasoned prospector to go find there own ;) My thoughts.

Hehh hehh, we cant comprehend what we dont have in hand and well videos of prototypes... Thanks. Most informative.

Sorry Steve, my thoughts yesterday were a bit jumbled when I edited the post after reading the other thread on detect speed. Having watched the video and comparing the info in these two threads I guess the question is are there any muddy signals with the EQ? Whether its a snap shot or open gate I'd expect some bleed between signals *points toward the iron/coin separation demonstrated on the video* however the video does not show this and I wonder if its an artifact due to the use of the sweet spot in the coil and not a true indication of targets on the edge of the coil, where I would expect to hear bleed *or blended* signals. Often times I'm pulled to a target because of that edge on indication or there's just a big bloody clump of bottle caps hiding a penny or dime. If your separating targets at edge or in clumps then this is an incredibly fast snap shot.

Very fast indeed but I'm wondering is that just in the sweet spot of the coil? When the iron is put in there they are still swinging on the same spot in the coil and I dont note any muddying of the response. I'm not saying I would not pull up and slow down with a positive hit.... or swing that fast anyway... but I'd like to know your thoughts on muddy signals. Might have found an answer in this tread so my comment is on the video.

I bear in mind that what is being witnessed online are testers and pre-production machines. They are still being tweaked for the final model and the testers are pushing them harder than a normal user probably would.

I find myself kicking the can between the 800 and 600. In one hand to have a fully unlocked detector, the 800, or keep my budget down because I'd primarily be using it as a coin shooter anyway with the 600. I've seen nothing that says you cant find micro jewelry with the 600~ the 800 would just give one that little bit of edge in doing so. I dont look for micro jewlery anyhow so what would be the point of higher freq's ? A larger tone range and adjustments with the 800 but is it necessary for a 600 for what I'd use it for? I can get most of the bells and whistles or just the ones I want to use. Who's to say that a service center in the future might not offer an upgrade for 600's in the future on request?*** HINT TO MINELAB*** What do I want out of it is my point and probably the same thought others have. There is not a lot separating the two but there is a lot separating what I want to do with it.

This is true however there is no reason why a manufacture could not increase the power output in a digital device. Its not that the output devices for power are analogue its the drivers and receivers being analogue requiring that power to give us that information to dig or not to for machines of that vintage. :) Thing is, to me, there is no reason to do so as digital devices do not really require high power outputs to pull the most information out of the data they process. In fact I expect it would be detrimental to a digital device with higher outputs as it would create more noise in the data than information. I feel older tech is still good tech just have to have an operator behind the wheel to get the most from whatever they are using.

I believe Steve is just the most vocal of the testers and that these units have been out and about for a fair while prior to the first announcement. :) I did not need to read the coming out statement to know he already has one in his hot hands and I have little doubt there are a few more in the USA as well. Its already been noted that some Europeans have been testing as well. No doubt there are a few Aussies as well. So the testing is right on track in my opinion.

I did not feel there would be any marked improvement in non-ferrous information between lead and gold I was curious as to whether the multiQ system would provide improved target data for areas that one caliber of bullet is more common than other sizes of targets. Yes one will be walking away from gold I'm sure but as a patch finding feature~ *shrugs* just a thought.

My though is that PI detectors in the 2000 series, both mod'ed and standard, were a steady progression of improvements in sensitivity, ground balance and depth. The 2000 was the most modified of the series and as the base model it was the most accepting of tinkering for outright depth. However it suffered for sensitivity. Could not have one for the other. With the advent of the GP, GPX series the transition to digital processing has made greater depth with sensitivity to smaller targets that the 2000 series can not accomplish due to analog design restrictions. As to outright power the 2000 has it, thru modification, but it simply cant perform as the later GP series can. There is no need to put the GPZ into this thought as its a different system altogether. My thoughts.