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Steve, Maybe the secret is to only hunt 1-2 hours a day? WTG ... Mitchel

Foolish? Has the plan worked out for you? Save time digging or find better gold? Mitchel

Nice nugget ... You can go to a shoe repair and have them 'changed' for you rather than no eyelet. I think the different swing style will make the most difference since you have other, bigger metal there. I have a pair of water boots (I can use on the beach) that are great but they have metal. I have to swing away from them also. Mitchel

That is an interesting video. What can I say? I have a 3030, Explorer SE Pro and the E-Trac (French) we are about to start using. We go to the beach. I do think there are times when my old SE Pro (being used by my wife) finds some things better than I can with the 3030. She has found some nice gold chains with it while I have had some good days and other days no chains. Our coil tags have broken on the SE Pro and I have glued them but if they break again we'll bring out the new E-Trac and I'll have more knowledge of its beach finds. The controls and adjustments seem similar looking through the manual but the field is the place to go next. Mitchel

Steve, I saw the 110 plus around your area and now I see your posting. Good story for the nuggets. Mitchel

Thanks for posting! It is a good one to look at.

Ok Merton ... let's see YOURS!

He was a money lender. There is no indication that he was killed in a robbery. People here will kill you for a buck ... are you going to keep your dollar bills hidden to avoid being put to death?

Is Vermont subject to a mining law like that of 1872? Let's keep the one that protects us in the West. Mitchel

Fred was a good 'poster' for you to read some of his past posts. His years of hunting and knowledge is greater than mine. He references some good guys who have written. One book and writer you should add to your list is Chris Ralph (Fred said ICMJ so you will see him there). He has written a book 'Fists Full Of Gold' which is kind of a modern encyclopedia on the subject. I would generally agree with your assumptions. My departure with them would be involving plate tectonics and your assumption that all gold would make it to the ocean. Plate tectonics is the elephant in the room. It will push everything around including ancient rivers, ocean beds and lakes which were once at the end of the streams. Gold on the west coast is heavily dependent upon that and the volcanic activity associated with it. Here is a page which describes some of the specific forces that determine recoverable placer gold (with and without a metal detector). http://www.goldrushnuggets.com/tyofgopl.html You've opened a subject that I think the old timers knew more about than we do today. We are just following them as Jim Straight says: 'Follow the dry washers' in the desert. We all follow the miners elsewhere for the gold they missed and their relics. Good prospecting to you wherever you go. Mitchel

Well written. Thanks for sharing the story. A hunt is not over until it is over. Mitchel

Merton doesn't usually let someone out-find him. I'd like a picture of his face ... It would be like mine when Lu out-finds me ... little boy pout. Good job Strick. WTG Lisa. Mitchel

That is what I tried to say Fred ... don't need it for 3030 and 7000 but those headphones fit OVER my ears. I want to check with them and see if I can use them or another product with a regular adapter. Their transmitter is dongled onto your detector and the headphones don't have a plug. I need to plug some of their headphones into the 10 or 12 as you say. Mitchel

Great job of finding the place!

Good on you guys who get trash from the beaches. I pick up all glass and all my metal finds and some plastic and paper. When out today I run across the same guys on the beach that don't even have a pouch. You follow them and all their metal trash is thrown about after they sometimes leave their holes open. They have a PI and dig everything. The only sense that makes to me is that they are not wasting their time to fill a hole. They only want the good stuff and that is all they will keep. (Damn courtesy, politeness or safety!) I'm glad others make a 'show' of being a garbage collector. That is better for all of us ... happy trash collectors. Mitchel

Lucky, Good job again. You are right. The best discrimination is digging the target. Mitchel

I have gone to the office since it is local to me and tried on the over the ear model. Those are very comfortable but I am not using them in the field yet. I will want to use them with the 2300. I don't know how to use them with the 7000 or 3030 which is already wireless. They are trying hard to find a niche and I'll encourage them to meet more of the local detectorists and learn from us.

George Soros wins big on his gold bet.

Merton ... it is Rob's Beach Erosion topic and Performance of Small Coils by Roughwater.

I like bobbie pins on the ocean beaches. It means lots of people (girls) have been there in the past and were concerned about their hair. When they care about that they wear jewelry! I don't dig them with the 3030 but when I was hunting with the 5000 on the beach it was one after one after one. And once in a while a good score! The guy I know who finds more good stuff than any other still digs big holes at the beach and lots of them but he uses a Surfmaster PI. I'm not that strong. Mitchel

Biological indicators can and can't be present for gold deposits. It is all a matter of percentage and perception. How many times is an indicator right and how many times is it wrong? We hunt in an area in southern California that has a yellow flower. The flower is not everywhere but it is on about half of the land. This flower is said to grow (only or best --- depending upon the prospector) where there is iron/ironstone. (It is easy to see when it blooms after a rain.) Where there is ironstone there can be gold. There can also be gold that has moved from these areas. Not all ironstone areas have gold. Much of the area has been pushed and natural soils have been modified. Should one only hunt where you find these yellow flowers? Is there a better chance of finding gold where you find these yellow flowers? One thing for sure ... gold is where you find it. If you are a hunter who only hunts when he sees the yellow flowers then that is your biological indicator. Go for it. You will be leaving all the other gold for someone else. You mentioned the trees. Maybe the tree grows better when it has a deep soil. Maybe an area of deep soil will hold gold that has moved in and settled there. If it is a gold vein source of gold it may be just a coincidence or the gold vein has been hidden all of these years by gravel covering it. There may be a successful pattern out there following a biological indicator. It may be better or worse than other methods. Most successful gold prospectors have one thing in common and that is that they spend a lot of time at it. I on the other hand have been lucky! Mitchel

I hunted Meeks Bay a couple of years ago and I didn't find much but I was not diving ... just wading in that cold, cold water.

Thanks Strick.

How much 'good stuff' was there?

I agree also with Strick. Then Steve put up the Edit Frame Size. I noticed when I was out today that it was Edit Frame size as the wording. That is what I was interested in 'using' if it was helpful. So when would I need to edit a pattern? Is that just the 'accept/reject, dark/light' pattern that is left? It seems that this has nothing to do with send/receive functions of the detector. Does it make any difference what Edit Frame size is while detecting? Does the Edit Frame size have any effect on sounds? Now on to Strick's other observation. Zinc Pennies These will be the bane of metal detector companies for years to come. Until the last couple of years it has seemed 'manageable' but now it is impossible to know these sounds because they are in pieces and corroded to a point they can imitate other good objects. I have had them sound like rings, dimes, pull tabs ... all over my screen! You just can't ignore all of them. The copper pennies on the beach now get a dime or sometimes a quarter sound (high pitched). This brings up another way I use my 3030. I listen and look at the screen and never run it in numbers screen. I care if it is in the upper right (silver) or the middle-left (round/ring) or bottom (irons/steel). That is how I use the 'spectrometer' functions of the 3030 which is a graph of the numbers.