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Chris (the video producer) said: Our two week detecting trip is over, we find two last nuggets and five nuggets in Pahrump NV and one in Lost Basin AZ. It was a lot of swinging going, eight hours a day for two weeks. It was awesome fun and great exercise. And as the way things go, found three the first day and a half and two the last, frustrating days in between. That's prospecting! Mitchel

You caused me to find a quote: Truth, like gold, is to be obtained not by its growth, but by washing away from it all that is not gold. Leo Tolstoy A metal detector attempts to find gold by ignoring all that is not gold. That ... like finding truth is very hard to do.

Look at the muddy water in the North Bay and all of the delta!

Fun video.

Fred, I wanted everyone to see the gold. He said he got skunked ... far, far from it! Good job on the edit Squizz. Mitchel

After all of this and more yet to come ... where is the gold going to stop on the Yuba? Where did it stop after 97?

First, try to edit the post. Some will let you edit the title and others won't. Good Luck. Edit: I just looked at one of my posts and sure enough you can edit the title of the post. I'd say: Over Half Ounce of Gold and a Specimen for 2017

Well done. You fooled me with the title. I didn't think I would see any gold let alone a nice slug and pretty specimen. Please edit the title. I don't like to be 'faked out' like that. Mitchel

I have one of these that I don't really use but the concept is solid. http://treasureproducts.com/vibraphone.html It works but it has been made for mounting on a tube when it should be some other type of mount. I used it briefly with my 5000 by using a splitter for the phone jack. (You can also use it instead of headphones but this was going to take a learning curve ... especially on the faint targets!) One had headphones and the other this vibraphone. It does work. It says on the advertising it doesn't work on Minelabs but I had no problem. It sits in my box for further testing one day. Why? Well ... it does convert the target energy into vibrations that can be felt rather than heard. What I discovered was that my sense of vibration was not as sensitive as my sense of sound (even with some frequency gaps). That is my personal choice to abandon use of it but for someone with very limited or no hearing (or if I lost my hearing) I would use this in a minute. When I bought mine I chatted with the manufacturer and I don't really know why it is not a more widely used product. Mitchel PS Check out the other products. I've considered one of the pointers in the past but haven't gotten one.

WTG Dave.

Steve, That is post of the year or maybe decade. It should have a separate thread. Scientific proof like this is rare among 'believers and promoters' of one product vs another. Mitchel

Inspiring!

And that doesn't include ... Very nice to see some of what you have found. Mitchel

I am using some Able Planet headphones that I originally bought for traveling on a plane. I tried them on a couple of my detectors with an adapter and it gave me the volume I needed and they don't hurt my ears. They don't make the model I use any more and they can slip from time to time but I'm hooked. That being said they still don't seem to be as loud as I would like when using them with the 2300. They are very good on my GPX, 3030 and 7000. Mitchel

My Windows 10/Chrome/EeePC can't handle it. It is just black and frozen after the mine and placer names show up. Mitchel

How many New targets are we really finding? To answer this question it is a bit more 'complicated' than just a new coil vs an old coil or a new detector vs an old detector although those are part of the variables. This question now comes to mind when I am using the GPZ 19 on previously worked patches. When I go to the beach and grid a box that is 100x100 with my 3030 I will find targets. If I assume there are 50 targets within that area and I get 20 I might be doing pretty good without knowing for sure the total potential targets and how long I take to hunt it out. I will not find them all ... I will miss some ... and then I'll move on to another pocket ... sometimes. The number I miss depends on my grid pattern, the type of target, if I overlap my swing, soil/salt conditions, discrimination level, shape of target and of course, depth. If I am finding really good targets and I go back over this area I might find 5 more that I missed the first time ... and I still haven't gotten them all. If a friend of mine comes over that same square with his White's Surfmaster Dual Field PI he might find 15 targets. Some of these targets would be new (12) and some missed (3). (Those are just guesses but you get my point.) The point is that the PI will find New targets because it can go deeper and see invisible targets but it is also possible to find missed targets that my 3030 could still see if I went over it. When I use the GPZ 19 looking for meteorites I am primarily looking for missed targets because the targets are so shallow. This includes going to a new area previously undetected because part of the 'miss' is not going to an area because of luck or inadequate research. Now when I am out on a gold patch with the GPZ 19 I am looking for missed targets and New targets. An advantage of the GPZ 19 on the missed targets is that it is a much larger coil. It is also a more advanced, quieter technology. (Missed targets need to be a bit larger because the GPZ 14 will see smaller targets than the GPZ 19.) New targets (those not detectable with the GPZ 14) would be those that are deeper and those 'invisible' to the GPZ 14. My mentors have been going over old patches with new technology for years. Some of what they find is New and some of what they find is missed even to this day. So this is an 'old game' with just a new player (me) hoping to be productive while swinging. I want to find something every trip. Am I going to find more missed targets than New targets? It depends on where I search so I need a mix of new ground and hunted out patches. There is still deep gold! Slow, deliberate and methodical gridding will have to win the New targets (if the patch has depth) and the missed targets will follow. This will mean many skunk days. The old patches aren't being replenished unless it is a wash. Mitchel (added after Chuck's response))

This was the first time I saw the video. We were in Gold Basin at the time. I need a better computer so that I can hear the audio on the video. I heard it at the end. WTG my friend. Mitchel

Now that I have been out with my detector on the beach again I would have to make a different type of support for my coils. I will have to make a U and then glue the U to the coil. There would not be separate ears. Now I need to find some non-metallic material for making the U. Minelab could have done something similar then the ears would not be fixed to the coil. Attach the U in a replaceable way if it ever breaks. Mitchel

I would try to see your volume on the Pro-Sonic before buying the booster. I've seen some here who say they use the booster with a 7000 but I don't know why. But ... I use headphones that have a volume control and noise cancel separate from my detecting electronics. Mitchel

Norvic, Unfortunately we will not be 'rid' of the virus that is heading your way. I think we will still see signs of the infection there and here where most of us are exposed on a regular basis. There is no known vaccine. Mitchel

How about entire thread?

I'll have to admit, I did push (12) the settings a bit for the shallow meteorites. I was concerned that the 19 would ignore smalls as a hot rock so I stepped up the sensitivity. It was still stable enough to hunt but we were in an area where most of them had been found so my count didn't go up. Two others that were hunting with me didn't find any before we moved on to explore. I went to the Hoppy GPAA claims (good in the past I understand) for the first and last time. There were no old dig holes in the pavement. I have been on much better areas of Gold Basin for meteorites. The gold nugget area was mostly mild but there were a few screamer hot rocks which is not always a bad thing. I've taken quite a few similar nuggets off that area and I was not the first.

My SE Pro 12" coil and my 3030 17" coil broke at the base of the ear. My fixes so far have been Gorilla glue to hold the entire 'ear' in place because it broke at the base make the screw tight. I was told that acetone would liquify the plastic and be like a plastic weld if you just need to reattach pieces. I haven't tried it yet. Now when it breaks I think will have to get rid of all the glue and put one of the brackets on like you have done. Thanks for the pictures. Mitchel

I've been out a few times now with the 19" and finally got over a couple of keepers! Yesterday I was hunting in a known meteorite area in Gold Basin, Arizona. Meteorites in this area are primarily surface targets to maybe 1 or 2 inches. You can still hunt in some areas for them without a detector. I started out with the 14" coil and found the 25g meteorite on the right. Now that I had located an area still holding them (and showing dig holes) I wanted to try the 19" coil. I didn't have to walk very far away before I got the 18g meteorite on the left. My first keeper of any kind with the 19" coil. Today we went a few miles away from where we found the meteorite and got the little .45g nugget that was 'missed' in a patch where I found several with the 14" coil. It was about 4" down. When I saw it and gave it a 'Find Point' I thought it was .2g. The sound was very faint but when I got to pinpointing it screamed. I was using JP's conservative settings. Before we went to Gold Basin we were in Quartzsite where I have very little experience with big gold at any depth. Actually I have very little experience anywhere with big deep gold so I'm trying to remember stories I have heard from others and go to those locations but I'll have to research more. It's just good to break in the coil. Mitchel

NE, You are correct about the technology. I have a ML 5000 and if you got near power lines it was a problem. There was a 'cancel' feature on the mono and dd coil selector which would help with this EMI. Others here will give you better info about this when they wake up! Mitchel