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Thanks, I'd never seen that before, and it talks about the Fine Gold/Enhanced timing being used on the SDC, a bit of a giveaway why it's not been overly good in milder soils. By the sound of it, the SDC could have quite easily been combined with a GPX 5000 to become another model detector......

Yea, they came up with a new method of detecting fast time constraint targets, which they mean small or specimen type gold, so it must do it very different to the GPX 6000. I would assume the method the GPX 6000 is using is all patented up so they had to come up with something different.

They're certainly not going to be one hit wonders, they entered the market with the Algoforce, I really can't wait to see what's next but they're already getting into gear and thinking about the next model. Until they catch up with demand, I can't imagine they'll get much done with a new model though, and I expect it will be a year or two away yet at least.

It does look a whole lot of fun. It's the claims side of it that make it such a pain, our public areas only allow sluicing and you need a claim to get a dredge into the water. I'd love to take it up. That Facebook group is fairly active with lots of good posts for someone interested in Dredging.

yep, same copy and paste mistake they did on this 11" coil. I can assure you that spiral windings won't fit in that coil size.

Looks like it would fit an Ace bolt and washer set. A couple of examples. These can be picked up real cheap.

Dredging is still quite popular in NZ with those lucky enough to have claims, they do very well too, far better than us swinging beeping sticks do. A small community of a couple of hundred of them are on a Facebook private group, and share and discuss their dredging and equipment. This is one being used in my neck of the woods. I wouldn't mind taking it up one day, it suits me as I hate heat, so being in water cooling off sounds ideal and they find plenty of gold.

Sorry, 100% sure it is not spiral wound.

The capacitor plague story is a good one, I was a technician at the height of it dealing with the problem, it was a Japanese thief that caused it, and most of the faulty capacitors were made in Taiwan, wasn't so much a China production issue as a Japan/Taiwan problem. It's a good story on Wiki to read, it affected just about every brand and went well beyond computer equipment.

It has to be bundle wound due to the size. Spiral can't fit in there. I have a new model 10x6" bundle mono X-coil on its way to me soon to use on my Agoforce, it's a good size to give a bit of ground coverage but still hold some good sensitivity, I liked the Coiltek 10x5" Joey mono on my 4500 for that reason. 11x6" should be similar and perform well for you. A larger spiral coil will be more sensitive to smaller targets, and deeper though.

They have enough products now to open stores like these on a corner near you for detecting gear.

The headphone update provides "wireless audio connection stability improvements"

They each have their pro's and cons. 6" is most sensitive to tiny gold out of the two of them, but at the centre of the coil. The 10x5" lets you poke the nose into places, as on the 10x5" the nose is more sensitive than the middle of the coil. The 10x5" isn't too far behind the 6" sensitivity but only at the tip and tail. I think potentially the 6" is deepest overall although only just, even on a coin size target, but the 10x5" covers more ground, as long as you're not looking for tiny targets, as then you're overlapping your swing so much anyway to ensure the tip or tail are covering the ground. Both are great coils.

Wel,l it certainly copies the Nox and Legends frequency choices.

It's not available yet, won't be too far off, I was fortunate enough to be offered to try it out before release, and it does all it's meant to do well.

When you think about it, it's a highly effective way to make a detector stand out as being sensitive to very small gold, when that audio signal on small targets is boosted right up. It's not necessarily hitting them any better than it would if it had the more traditional proportional audio, however they stand out a lot more, so people harder at hearing, or less inclined to notice faint signals are never going to miss them when they're amplified like that. It's I believe a big part of the magic that has made the 6000 so successful on smaller gold for a bulk of people as it's just easier for them to find it. It's a nightmare for shallow pellets though, and I much prefer the GPZ for that, the double blip, and the normal depth indicating audio. You certainly don't need to focus as much when the detector is doing the work for you. It still does weaken off on the signal as they're very close to out of range, as does the CTX with it's targets, but it doesn't do it in steps as much as a normal audio detector. A very successful idea to use this type of audio on a gold prospecting detector, as it's just what you need when the focus is smaller gold and the idea behind the detector according to their marketing was a detector that made you an "easy expert, you'll be an expert from the moment you turn it on, Finding gold has never been easier". And aside from its rough threshold, they're right.

yep, the market will be flooded with them soon, they're in Russia already. These things will be all over New Zealand and Australia soon from Aliexpress and the like. If it uses their own technology and isn't copying I guess it's not much different to the Legend vs the Nox, but if its stolen Nokta's software/hardware that's not good, but probably not much they'll be able to do about it, Fisher hasn't been able to stop the clones, been around for decades to the point they've probably outsold the genuine article in many countries outside of the US. It even comes with a pinpointer in the box.

Yes, that is their intentions, the debate is about in which direction they will go with the new model, I highly doubt it will be an AT Pro detector with a SMF PCB in it, It will be an entirely new model, hopefully a design that looks like the Apex with that nice big screen size. A colour screen with more functionality would be good though.

If the video is even half correct it sounds like a great detector to me. People doubted Nokta could make a detector to even come close to the Equinox, well they made an Equinox. Garrett have just as much potential to bring something good to market and they didn't buy out Whites for nothing. Really excited to see what they've done.

You're using the mono too, everyone seems to favour the DD for small gold performance. Well done, always good to see people having success and enjoying their detector.

This is from the CTX 3030 manual. Volume Gain Range: 1–30 Factory Preset: 24 Volume Gain controls the amplification of a target’s audio response, relative to the target signal strength. This audio setting is most similar to volume adjustments in other devices (e.g. radio or television volume controls). With a setting of 1 the target signal will not be amplified. Weak target signals will sound quiet, medium target signals will sound mid-range and strong target signals will sound loud. There will be greater differentiation between target signal strengths; however, weak signals will be harder to hear. With a setting of 30, all target signals will be amplified to a loud audio response. At this setting there will be less differentiation between medium and strong signals, but weak target signals will be easier to hear I've put into bold what I think the GPX 6000 has incorporated into its audio, as targets can go from scream to nothing with the smallest amount of depth, especially small targets like pellets and small gold. I believe this is part of what makes people think the 6000 is a magical detector on small gold, by having the faint target signals boosted it appears to be much more powerful on smaller gold than it in fact is which is evident by how quickly the signal falls off. Yes, it's a very good detector on small gold, but some of it is trickery done with software. You just need to use a coil like the 8" on the GPZ and then use the 6000 with the 10x5" coil and experience a number of smaller targets like pellets and gold and you would start to see what I'm saying is very likely correct with the differences in audio responses vs target depth between the two. There is a reason the 6000 goes from a screamer to barely a target at all on a small pellet with only a cm or two of depth difference, in fact a lot of people were confused and talking about disappearing targets with the 6000 recovering these tiny bits, I wonder why that could be? they don't need to move far to go out of range so flattening out the pile is the way to go. Confusing a loud screamer like that can just disappear.... yet when you understand how the audio works it makes more sense. I use the CTX a lot on this "30" setting, so the behaviour was very familiar to me when I started using the GPX.

The 8" coil is my favourite of the smaller coils, being the smallest, more of a specialty coil as you're not going to cover ground with it, but it's ideal in this situation you're in there and I would not be at all surprised if it picked out gold you're currently missing with both combinations. A compromise is the 10" as it gets a more normal ground coverage with just a little less sensitivity which of course means a little less depth on the smallest bits but a bit more depth on bigger bits but even coils like the 15" Concentric are very competitive with the 8" on small gold, only falling slightly behind more similar to the 10" while providing plenty of other benefits and would be my overall pick of coils. If only Minelab made more coils for the 7000, or at least sanctioned other brands to do so to make them more mainstream I think these 6000/7000 comparisons where people favour the 6000 by a large degree on smaller gold would largely disappear.

This is largely an illusion caused by the lack of coil options. Yes, there is likely some pieces a 7000 will miss the 6000 won't and also vice versa but the number isn't near what it appears to be, I think. The 7000 has a well-known depth advantage as the gold gets bigger though. Sounds like a spot to hit with a VLF if it can handle the soil, as a VLF truly does pick up smaller bits the 6000 and 7000 can't see at all. There is no one detector that excels at it all, largely due to design choices by the manufacturer to sell more detectors. And Dig4gold has a point there, now more than ever I'm flipping rocks to get results, it pays off.

I knew it would be the new revised better version of a hip stick so didn't comment in your previous threads to spoil your fun, looks promising! Great work as always.

I recently decided XP is not for me due to their warranty/service in New Zealand. I had a battery problem with my HF Deus 1 coil, I contacted the NZ dealer it was purchased from, although as I bought it second hand I didn't have the receipt for it. It was still under warranty technically but without that receipt it wasn't as I had no proof of purchase although if they cared enough, they could have offered to looked up the previous owners name in their system and recovered the invoice, I didn't care, I just wanted to buy a new battery for it. They were unable to sell one to me, they were unable to get batteries as the shipping of batteries is all too difficult from XP so it just couldn't happen in their mind, I'd have to buy a new coil to get a cheap little battery. So basically, anyone in NZ with a Deus 1 once the batteries are stuffed have to throw it away, there is only one XP dealer and they're not interested in bringing the batteries in.