Popular Post Steve Herschbach Posted February 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2021 I go to extreme lengths to bring information on new detectors to this website. Many others help. Trademarks are watched, patents, corporate reports, leaks from overseas dealers.... anything that can be found that offers hints to upcoming product. It is a large driver here as many are interested in the latest and greatest. Many experts here add valuable commentary. The volume of information here can get overwhelming when we are on a roll. I try to bury people with early info. As a result, this is the place to be if you like information. Those that only visit the forum, you are missing out on years of effort put into other parts of this website, and you really should look at those other areas. I've never written a book on this stuff per se, but if I did, most of it would be repeating what comes out here a post at a time. I am also a stickler for accurate information. I'm very well plugged into most things metal detecting, and when I see somebody crossing lines with inaccurate information, I take care of it. Not to brag, but after 45 years of doing this every day, the depth and breadth of my knowledge on various brands is rather encyclopedic. I do not want to create fake machine info as is done on other websites just to attract clicks. It either passes my accuracy filter, or I delete it. You can trust what you see on this site as having a very high degree of accuracy, and there are smart people here to call it out if it is not. And then people show up and talk hype. They literally come here to partake of all this information, and then turn right around and call it hype. I guess it is the sheer volume of information and the enthusiasm they see as hype. Some get caught up in it, and make poor decisions. Then they want to blame their poor decisions on hype. I'm calling B.S. This website by and large is for serious adults, not children. I have no time to waste with people who cannot take responsibility for their own actions, and want to throw the hype card out as a cover for their poor decision making abilities. I LOVE INFORMATION and I collect and pour it out here. I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT THE SUBJECT MATTER. I am basically a big kid, these are my toys, and I get all giddy when I get new toys. I've lived for this stuff since I was 14 and I'm 63 now... you sure as heck are not going to change me at this point. If you don't like all that, if it's all hype to you, you are in the wrong place. I'm not sure what you are looking for. A placid site with no information to trigger that credit card reflex? Heck if I know. What I can tell you is I work hard, very hard, for all of you by working hard for me. I gather information and learn things FOR ME, but I am also very happy to share what I know WITH YOU. If you want, and I assume up front that by being here that is what you want. Given the effort I am making, the easiest way to get on my bad side is to bring up the hype thing. If all this information and enthusiastic forum membership is too much for you to handle, just go away. I cannot understand why people watch the website, see all the info, join, and then bitch about the basic nature of what we are doing here. I have watched for years as the best people, the ones who really know what they are talking about, tire of this nonsense and disappear. You don't think we need that crap, do you? It is the craziest shoot yourself in the foot thing I have ever seen. I envisioned this as a place where those people could come and share what they know, to the benefit of all. But in trying to please everyone I lost sight of that mission. No more. That's my rant. We have a new machine into that I am very excited about. There are world class experts here ready to discuss the machine and have fun with a rare gift - a new gold getting beast. If that's not your thing, you do not want to have fun with all that, please take the debbie downer stuff somewhere else. I'm not trying to make everyone happy, I'm not everyone's cup of tea, and I'm extremely cool with that. I'm trying to collect my tribe here, the people that get it, and want to be part of it. I really hope that is you, but if not, there are zillions of places that may better suit. I set this website up expressly because I wanted a place to play with my friends, and I never put a gun to anyone's head to be here. If you are one of those that like to play the hype card, know that I set this place up to get away from you!! One of the very best things about getting older is being able to let my "grumpy Steve" out to play if I want. 41 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jonathan Porter Posted February 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2021 Well said Steve and “So say all of us”. New releases are fun but all the finger pointing over the years has grown old for me, being torn between seeing people desperate for information and at the same time being accused of HYPE has grown extremely thin with me and made more poignant by my now being a dealer selling the products I often talk about. I will always try my best to inform people of my perceived bias but do not mistake my passion for this subject as being hype to sell products because you will get it sorely wrong. The only reason I hang out here is because of the effort you SteveH put into keeping this forum alive and informative, I love the hype/passion and excitement of this forum and thoroughly enjoy the camaraderie but at the end of the day after more than 20 years of being mangled by all the tall poppiests I am well over having to have my fundamentals scrutinised every time I offer an opinion!! Good to see a defined line in the sand, to all who read what I have just written, I help develop Minelab detectors and I sell the things so take what I say with a grain of salt if your so inclined!!? 26 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steve Herschbach Posted February 2, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2021 And I was a large multiline dealer for over 35 years, and I have worked and continue to work with manufacturers when it suits me. That’s where I get the knowledge that I have, it’s not something I should have to defend. I'm biased on a lot of things, but trying to sell people on detectors sure is not one of them. Even here though, I basically went underground a few years ago and just kept my mouth shut. I worked with Minelab on the Vanquish, nothing too major, but I did my part to help bring some amazing power for the price to market. People think there is a requirement to promote the stuff, but that's not how I play. Anyway, due to the "bias" and "hype" getting tossed around so freely over what I did with Equinox, I decided to recuse myself from saying much about machines I am evaluating or working on. And that's just wrong. Why should I have to hide from a***oles on my own website? I'd like to throw away the self donned shackles, and get back to sharing what I know without having to watch my back. Look at what I did with Equinox (was I wrong people about Equinox being special?) and look at what I did with Vanquish. Which do you prefer as far as information sharing - too much, or none at all? Steve and JP unleashed, or held down and dogged by these people? Hit the road I say, and let us have our fun! Machines I stayed pretty quiet about last year.... 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steve Herschbach Posted February 2, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2021 Anyone remember these? Were they helpful? Would you like to get similar info here for free? Did you see this recent post by JP? Who else posts something like that? This guy knows more about the internal workings of Minelabs than just about anyone you have access to. He is doing me a HUGE favor by coming out of hiding here, to help take this place to the next level of information sharing. That's the direction we are heading, so come along with us if you want. If not, that's fine also. All I know is I am lucky to have JP here because he knows way more than I, and I'd like to learn from him. I'm selfish. The countdown timer is running, and if you think what has gone on before was hype, then this is a real good time to get off the hype bus, because we are going to kick this thing into overdrive!! 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicR Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I think some people get their thrills by being deliberately provocative and stirring the pot - I don't understand why they do this so I gravitate away from them which is why i have only posted on DP. I come here for evidence based information with a sprinkling of hard earned practical knowledge. Im 63 as well - & now retired - working hard all our lives - we are entitled to finally have some fun with our own train set which runs to our own rules. Keep the good work up Steve. By the way - i have never been a distributor nor have any association with any metal detector manufacturer - i just enjoy detecting in the bush, getting the most out of technology and the adventure it brings.? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paradiceau Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Steve, Like so many I am very grateful for your site and your knowledge and integrity. You put your heart and soul into this and your passion is obvious. From the peanut gallery I say Kudos and thank you. Keep on doing what you do best. Jeff 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F350Platinum Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Ok, I'm a total noob. I probably shouldn't even be posting in this thread, but I have a strong compulsion to. There are many forums I could have joined, but l am wary of Fanboy sites and those with a "gang" that have a one way approach to the forums' objective, whether it is the original intent or not. I lurked many. I picked this one because I couldn't find a single objectionable post, the members seemed nice and even tolerant of members new to the hobby. There are discussions that go way over my head, but I learn thorough osmosis, absorbing information that I may not understand but that really clicks later. I am well aware that I am not a gift to this forum, but it sure is a gift to me. Most of what I know about metal detectors came from this forum, from the suggestions of members and interaction with them. I am slowly developing the "facts before posting" discipline here that many have displayed. I enjoy being questioned and corrected. There is no hype here, only experience! Lots of it. I am grateful for the warm welcome, the encouraging replies of members to my posts, and the cameraderie that has already occurred. Thanks, Steve H. ? 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steve Herschbach Posted February 2, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2021 6 hours ago, F350Platinum said: Ok, I'm a total noob. I probably shouldn't even be posting in this thread, but I have a strong compulsion to. There are many forums I could have joined, but l am wary of Fanboy sites and those with a "gang" that have a one way approach to the forums' objective, whether it is the original intent or not. I lurked many. I picked this one because I couldn't find a single objectionable post, the members seemed nice and even tolerant of members new to the hobby. There are discussions that go way over my head, but I learn thorough osmosis, absorbing information that I may not understand but that really clicks later. I am well aware that I am not a gift to this forum, but it sure is a gift to me. Most of what I know about metal detectors came from this forum, from the suggestions of members and interaction with them. I am slowly developing the "facts before posting" discipline here that many have displayed. I enjoy being questioned and corrected. There is no hype here, only experience! Lots of it. I am grateful for the warm welcome, the encouraging replies of members to my posts, and the cameraderie that has already occurred. Thanks, Steve H. ? And thank you. Was not sure where that was going, because I am a fanboy, but not in the way people might think. I am a fanboy of metal detecting and gold prospecting, and I think turning thousands of people on to it has been one of the better things I've done in life. I did try too hard to cater to everyone here, when in fact all I have ever wanted to do is cater to people like me! I know what I want in a forum, and that's why I set this up, to get what I could not find elsewhere. I genuinely am a child at heart, and I really do like to play with toys. I've not an ill feeling towards anyone, but I do want only "my people" here. And my tent is pretty large really, because I'm not exactly normal myself, whatever that means. I just like people to be polite. Thanks for the kind word, and many happy thoughts in return. Me in lower right.... 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afreakofnature Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 57 minutes ago, Steve Herschbach said: Anyone remember these? Were they helpful? Would you like to get similar info here for free? Did you see this recent post by JP? Who else posts something like that? This guy knows more about the internal workings of Minelabs than just about anyone you have access to. He is doing me a HUGE favor by coming out of hiding here, to help take this place to the next level of information sharing. That's the direction we are heading, so come along with us if you want. If not, that's fine also. All I know is I am lucky to have JP here because he knows way more than I, and I'd like to learn from him. I'm selfish. The countdown timer is running, and if you think what has gone on before was hype, then this is a real good time to get off the hype bus, because we are going to kick this thing into overdrive!! I would like one of these for the GPZ please JP. ? Money in hand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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