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Gold Detector Competition, We Are All Winners. Is Something Coming Gpx-8000?


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On 3/14/2023 at 1:20 PM, phrunt said:

at this stage unless they shock me I don't see how they could have a significant improvement

Yes, I'm hoping they shock me to, but it makes me also wonder what they have been designing since the 2015's ZED release, as this is a long time in the making.

I can only hope it is a more refined 7000 that can actually add more depth performance on all nugget sizes, handle the worst ground effectively, and can have a huge variety of coil size options right from the release date, but If you already have X-coils this might not be it's best selling point.

Any discrimination would still be beneficial for surface rubbish, shallow soils and bedrock areas, but I do not like the previous blanking type of PI discrimination, so maybe a different tone could be used or a visual target ID would be even more outstanding.

I expect it to be a lot lighter with better ergonomics since they have been successful at doing this with other newer models. Any lightweight water resistance packaging would be beneficial for accident plunges while working near water.

Being this is a Flagship detector for the most series prospectors I would hope it would have more user control options than the GPX-6000. 

For now I'm just glad Minelab is still taking the lead on this as I have confidence it will be worth the wait. 

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It comes down to PI vs ZVT technology. ZVT has several advantages that can't be met by any PI, doesn't matter who makes it or how advanced it may be (6000, Axiom, etc). A modernized ZVT with better/faster processing time combined with light(er) weight and coil options would do it for me. Oh yes, and please a better screen, not the 50c one they have on now.

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I think you can rule out small coils, or even very sensitive to small target coils as they won't want to hurt 6000 sales, that seems to be a pattern forming.  I think the GPZ 8000 would be a deep bigger gold detector marketed and finding the bigger gold missed by the older models and I'm sure it will be very good at that compared to a standard 7000.  I'm guessing it will have 2 or 3 coil options and large coils will be the coils it has available from Minelab, I'm guessing 17" will be the stock coil.   They may even learn a thing or two off the aftermarket and go with options of Concentric coils.  To add value the package may come with two coils to help justify the price.

The 6000 is a really good small gold hunter where they've limited it to quite small coils, I think the 8000 will be the big deep gold hunter with big coils.

I guess its partly why I'm not all that interested in an 8000 as I don't think the detector they will release will suit me.  The 6000 I guess on paper is the detector that suits me perfectly with it's small gold sensitivity, it's only because I am very comfortable on the GPZ and have small coils and a 15" Concentric coil for it that I prefer it, in stock setups I'd have sold my GPZ and moved onto the 6000 shortly after getting my 6000. 

As it stands now I could live without my 6000, not so my 7000, so hopefully the 8000 will suit me, I really don't think it will...

I like putting these predictions down on the forum, I like going back and seeing how close to right I was when the new detector comes out ? 

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Personally I think the only chance we have of better depth and sensitivity is the Half Sine Hybrid technology that Whites developed but never went to market with. I suppose that patent now belongs to Garrett? Perhaps Garrett is hard at it developing a half sine hybrid machine as we speak?

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I also was thinking that the GPX-6000 and GPZ-7000 would always be separated out on performances since Minelab has controlled this market for so long. I hope they do not lose future sales on this past practice as now with the Axiom offering a 14" x 16" mono and DD coils it would seem the competition could change Minelab's previous thinking strategies, especially if it's about making the most profits. Hopefully they are forced into adding more options then what was previously offered to compete with the current competition, kind of like the X-Terra Pro release is attempting to do. 

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Ive heard some talk as to why the delay in release of the 8000 and it had to do with the FAA and disruption of airline travel comms mostly from the US regulations I think.   It a came from a fairly connected source.  That makes my brain think they are striving for depth well beyond the 7000. Why bother with small gold in the shallows when the 6000 has that more than covered.  All though it would be great to get the bits past the 6000 capability too.  My money is on more sensitivity at depth, because really isnt that where every generation of detector leaves off?  For me I want a mining and prospecting machine for our claims that will go deep real deep.  But I suppose thats a little narrowly focused  for the masses.  

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3 hours ago, Gold Ryder said:

Ive heard some talk as to why the delay in release of the 8000 and it had to do with the FAA and disruption of airline travel comms mostly from the US regulations I think.

FAA? Airline communications? No. Absolutely not. It’s actually impossible. As is any talk of metal detectors exceeding some kind of power transmission limits in the U.S. That’s always been a myth. Your “connected source” just lost all credibility and can be safely ignored in the future.

And delay? What delay? How can a detector that has never been announced and exists merely as rumors be delayed?

I’m not trying to jump down your throat at all. I’m just trying to stop misinformation being spread via these forums. I do agree however that any focus by Minelab with a new gold machine needs to be on depth attained on multi ounce nuggets, not the small bits.

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51 minutes ago, Steve Herschbach said:

As is any talk of metal detectors exceeding some kind of power transmission limits in the U.S. That’s always been a myth.

Steve is this the first time you've shot this down??  :laugh:  (Being facetious for those not familiar with many previous posts over the years.)  We see it claimed here and at other forum sites (e.g. Dankowski's) rather frequently.  I'm thinking George's and Carl's book should be required reading as it addresses this and other myths besides explaining nicely how detectors work.  Yes, there are several BYO projects in there but IMO you can ignore those (as I have done), just read the explanations of what is going on, and still come out way ahead of the cover price.

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