Europes Largest Metal Detector Distributor Gives Minelab The Boot

[phrunt]

My guess it the code for it was written for old obsolete hardware, maybe even easier to start all over again.

 

[Chase Goldman]

50 minutes ago, phrunt said:

My guess it the code for it was written for old obsolete hardware, maybe even easier to start all over again.

 

Agreed.  The more I think about it, I think Garrett made the right move pivoting to take on ML on the PI front, where no one else has really challenged them.  The market is saturated with SMF derivatives of Equinox/Manticore (Legend, Deus 2, and the forthcoming Quest V60/80).  Garrett basically released a proof of principle SMF with Apex to demonstrate they still had the engineering chops to stay relevant with the latest IB VLF detecting tech trend but focused their development horsepower on Axiom. 

After Quest drops their SMF offering out there, I anticipate a lull in new releases of mid-to-high-end SMF detectors.  Perhaps a perfect time for Garrett to make a splash with a new AT SMF flagship of their own while others (Nokta and Quest) try to counter ML's XTP. 

[JCR]

Don't forget the upcoming release of the Rutus Versa. If it is priced right they may pick up some distributors and make some inroads in the market.

[Geotech]

On 5/21/2023 at 7:49 AM, TampaBayBrad said:

It is alleged that Minelab gave IDC an ultimatum. If they wanted to continue to distribute Minelab products in Europe they should cease their partnership with Nokta and also Quest. 

This would be a major violation of anti-competitive laws. If it was in writing, some lawyers may end up gainfully employed.

[Dick Stout]

"It is alleged that Minelab gave IDC an ultimatum. If they wanted to continue to distribute Minelab products in Europe they should cease their partnership with Nokta and also Quest...."

Minelab in a nutshell....

 

[Reg Wilson]

To put it crudely,... Minelab have us by the short and curli's. 

Due to one man who with some mates in a shed in Adelaide put together a metal detector to challenge the big American boys to now being the detector company that totally dominates the scene. Impressive? Hell yes.

What is going on now though is any body's guess. It all changed with Codan take over, and how much of the original genius has been retained? Going offshore to produce cheaper would have been abhorrent to the original Minelab crew (and I knew most of them). They were not the sort of team that was out to make huge money, but to prove that good old Aussie ingenuity was as good as the best. 

All changed now I guess, and no going back to an age of challenge above making the buck. 

[Steve Herschbach]

In big business when beholden to shareholders, well, I think that anyone who thinks ethics and morality is job one has rose colored glasses. It's eat or be eaten, and if it's not outright illegal, it will generally get done if it means winning when others lose.

On 5/22/2023 at 3:45 PM, Geotech said:

This would be a major violation of anti-competitive laws. If it was in writing, some lawyers may end up gainfully employed.

Of course such things are not done in writing. They are done at night at a private dinner, or in other "he said she said" deniable ways. I've gone swimming with the sharks myself, and it is not pretty. People are best off not knowing sometimes how the sausage is made, or who is doing what to somebody else in the "boardroom bedroom." At the end of the day it is all just drama and will matter little in whether I find any gold nuggets next week or not. 

[Steve Herschbach]

It makes me think of this little gem:

Business is like other relationships. You get in bed with somebody else thinking it will be great for both parties. But sometimes you find out it's just one person getting screwed, and the other doing the screwing. The final lesson being that just like with any relationship, outside observers rarely know which party is which.

[Swegin]

26 minutes ago, Steve Herschbach said:

The final lesson being that just like with any relationship, outside observers rarely know which party is which.

 

Just look for the one smiling.   Their the one doing the screwing. ?