Steve Herschbach

Depth gains are real but not dramatic unless the coil size difference is dramatic, as measured in square inches of coil size. This article below pretty much says it all. In your case if talking multi ounce nuggets, the 16" mono would be the way to go for now, until other larger options appear. But the gain will be a few inches at most, not double or some such thing. For every target there is an optimum coil size, and going to a larger or smaller coil than that optimum will get you less depth. To repeat, going to a larger coil can lose depth if the coil you have is already best for your target. People swinging super large coil sizes are losing depth on the most common targets sizes and only winning with the largest. Conversely, there is an optimum target size for each coil, and both larger and smaller targets than the optimum will lose depth compared to using a coil optimized for that size. Most detectors are optimized for coin size targets using an 11" coil. Smaller targets benefit from smaller coils, and larger targets from larger coils. I should mention mineralization and EMI also. Large coils see more of both relative to target size. These two factors work against larger coil sizes and can negate some or all of the theoretical gains. See the link below for details. Coil Size vs Detection Depth by Carl Moreland, on this website forum. A chart with notes from PI guru Eric Foster illustrates the relationship between coil size and depth.

Congratulations on a fabulous first gold find!

True if they can't use other devices or figure out the issue. And can't email me for some reason to report in. I had the issue and fixed it with a reset. Others have also. But I do have one user, Carolina, that says he simply can't get past it (he emailed me). But he also does not answer me directly on some alternative tests I have suggested, like my setting up a test account for him to use. So I figured I'd ask around and see what's up. Sounds to me like a rare issue affecting only some ipad users, and older iPads at that. In other words, I'm not going to lose any more sleep over it, and thank you all for that.

I was going to post something similar Bill but you beat me to it. There are companies that release product in a near beta state, but it is extremely rare. The MX Sport and Fisher Impulse AQ come to mind. White's paid the price for that mistake, and Fisher is doing the same. I don't think XP is remotely in the same situation with the Deus II. XP does not owe an update to anyone. People assume updates can do magic, but there are hardware limitations that software can't fix, or the software itself has limitations based on the underlying methodology. Long story short thought the Deus 2 has been out for a couple years, is an excellent detector, but it can't and won't do everything perfectly. No detector does. As far as I am concerned personally the Deus 2 simply is what it is. If anyone thinks performance is lacking - get a different detector that has the performance you seek. I have a Deus 2 and by this fall I will either keep it or sell it. I don't care if they update it. It's the detector they were selling and that I bought, and I'll judge it based on that. I honestly don't think an update will change anything dramatically, and that it is basically wishful thinking to expect that it will.

Use the Beach mode, third mode from left, and adjust sensitivity as required. Look at threads by others on this forum who are using the Legend on the beach - people often mentions settings. Please read this post on proper forum formatting.

Could be. It was my really old iPad that I just replaced that had the problem. But even then a forced app reset fixed the issue.

Salt water imposes an artificial limit on small gold detection. As a result there is a wall all VLF detectors will hit at the same point. Steve's Guide to Detecting Tiny Gold Jewelry In Saltwater

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That’s the basic symptom reported. A app force quit fixed it for me. This is not the same as a regular swipe up and close. Many people don't know it, but closing an app does not actually shut it down. It runs in the background forever unless you reboot the device, or do a forced reset. I am typing on an iPad right now.

I have had my iPad not let me post - the keyboard does not appear. Doing a hard close of the app or hard reset fixes the issue. Another user reported the same issue. It appears to be an issue with Apple and Safari - never seen it on my PC. One user, Carolina, seems to not be able to get around the problem at all, though I'm not sure what devices or browsers he has tried as alternatives. I can't find anything on my side checking the software, and when I do a test post from his account is works just fine. A bit of a mystery and wondering if anyone else has seen issues recently. If so, what devices or browsers were involved, and what was the fix?

Phrunt (Simon) was not saying anything bad about the Turkish people. It is just that we have seen a few companies making outrageous claims based in Turkey, and questions about those companies on this forum. It is not all the companies - a lot of people here have great respect for Nokta/Makro. But there are other companies, in particular those that sell Long Range Locators (LRL) devices, that are the problem. Here is a recent thread. And one from Germany. Steve’s Guide to How Deep Metal Detectors Can Go

I removed your link since links of this sort included by first time posters usually are advertising links. It often gets the new poster banned immediately. I’ll give you a chance however. If people want to see the website they can Google it. I can promise you your friend did not detect a bracelet at 1 meter with any metal detector. That is not possible with current technology. As the poster above noted, Minelab makes the best and most powerful. Anyone saying otherwise is going to need proof from trusted third party people, not some videos they make themselves.

When you look at the fully submersible Xterra Pro at $269 then even $299 would be a stretch for a new F19 variant. I honestly don’t see how Fisher or Garrett can sell hardly anything at current prices when caught in the crossfire between Nokta and Minelab. It has to be brand name loyalty or simply not knowing to lay out $759 for a new AT Max, to pick just one of many examples.

The Fisher / Teknetics / Bounty Hunter 19 kHz models were among my very favorite detectors. There was some evolution, culminating in the F19 variants, but they were all good. Simple, powerful, great all around models. They are certainly still very viable options but I have moved on personally. I’d never pay the $499 they are asking for them now. Lots of fond memories though. Fisher F19 Information Difference Between Gold Bug, F19, and G2+ Fisher Gold Bug Dp Vs Bounty Hunter Time Ranger Pro & F19 Guide To Gold Bug Versions

Yeah, Fisher existed for over 20 years before Garrett even got into business in the 50s. Metal detecting technology became mature around 1990, especially VLF. Anything made since then is still halfway decent. For point of reference, the 50 kHz White’s Goldmaster II came out in 1990 (15 - 19 kHz was standard before that), and the Minelab SD 2000 in 1995. But from 1960 until 1990 huge advances were being made on a regular basis, and I’m talking just basics like ground balance, and discrimination. There are a few interesting models from the 1980s, like the 19 kHz Gold Bug in 1986, but most models made before 1990 are dinosaurs by todays standards. For a look at the state of the art in 1990, see this 1990 White’s catalog. White’s at the time was making cutting edge product, second to none really, including the first digital models from any manufacturer. People would be surprised if they ran a Goldmaster 2 against any of the current crop of VLF nugget detectors… very little has changed there in 30 years! The coin detectors from Compass, Fisher, Garrett, Tesoro, and White’s were also pretty decent, though nothing like modern multifrequency existed. PI nugget detecting did not exist yet either, and despite early efforts from Eric Foster it was not until Minelab came along in the latter half of the decade with the SD series that things really happened there.

I’d like to see the Xterra Pro circuit board. There is a decent chance it’s a repurposed / feature limited Equinox circuit board. Makes sense from both a speed to develop perspective and mass marketing volume to use the same board, but with different firmware. The fact the Equinox coils work really points to this also.

My Bose earbuds work great plugged in directly with an 1/8” to 1/4” adapter. The Axiom 1/4” jack outlet is not special in any way, is the same as used on countless models over the decades (thanks Garrett for not jumping on the 1/8” bandwagon). Any normal wired options will work, though in the case of a mono/stereo mismatch an adapter may be required. Most metal detector headphones have a stereo mono switch for that reason, which is obviously lacking on earbuds. Another concern might be cable length. But they will work or can be made to work. The Axiom has a volume control that some nugget detectors lack so no problem there either.

Monte was good about that, and always up for some good discussion, even if it was to disagree. My actual last post to him was to disagree with him about something. And he responded, as always, with class. Monte's last post on this forum was only two days ago. A typical kind, atta boy type post. Here two days ago, gone now. Never take life for granted folks, as that's how fast it passes. https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/topic/22065-nice-barber-quarter-to-round-out-the-days-finds-mixed-bag-of-mint-marks-today/?do=findComment&comment=238081 Here is Monte's profile page here and his post list: https://www.detectorprospector.com/profile/904-monte/ https://www.detectorprospector.com/profile/904-monte/content/

Welcome to the forum. I edited your first post to make it readable. Please read this post on proper forum formatting: https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/topic/21738-forum-post-formatting/

I honestly am not sure what you are trying to say. Probably translation difficulty.

I'm sorry to hear that. I never met Monte directly, but via his many posts years ago about the early Tesoro detectors and relic hunting with them in dense iron. That was always his thing and he was very expert at it, and shared that knowledge with many others. He was well known for putting on hunts at western ghost town locations where one and all were invited. They say we live on as long as we are remembered by others, and many people will have fond memories of Monte for a very long time. My condolences to his family and friends in this difficult time. ~ Steve Herschbach Monte Berry Q&A at Stout Standards Notice at AHRPS

Same deal here in Reno last night. It just won’t quit this year. Thought it might be spring yesterday, daffodils coming up. Woke up to this….

Really great post karelian

Maybe this one. I had one for a while as I’ve tried out a couple 25” coils. The newer one I had: and the older version:

How sad. I’ve observed over my career in selling gold mining and metal detecting equipment that it’s very easy to steal from people in this industry. The gold mining and treasure hunting industry is rife with scams, many very large and in plain sight. And apparently somehow legal - consumer protection laws are a joke and boil down to “buyer beware.” A combination of greed and gullibility is deadly, and makes people easy prey for those who have no scruples. I’ve tried to talk countless people off ledges who were ready to jump - throw away money on equipment they did not need or which are complete scams. I saved many, but at times there is a remarkable level of delusion at work that borders on madness. They get locked into unassailable circular thinking on the subject. The main problem for this guy now is he spent $5500 on something literally not worth $10. This requires him to basically admit he was a fool. That’s psychologically impossible for a lot of people therefore the device must work. Also, if one was to admit it does not work, how do you sell it in good conscience? I would not be able to. They have to keep believing the lie for various reasons. At the end of the day these are belief systems not unlike a cult of sorts, and once people are in it can be hard, if not impossible, to extricate them from these deep wells of self-deception. In fact, trying to dissuade them can actually help reinforce their false beliefs as they will work very hard to defend those beliefs. If you try too hard, they will often get angry, so you do have to be cautious. There is a point where just walking away is the best solution. You did what you could Mitchel. Hopefully the seeds you planted will sprout in his mind as doubt and reality might set in some day. Tips For Helping People Trapped In Cult Like Thinking