Skate

Yep there is no blend. When it chirps there is a reason. It's telling you something.

I’m in complete agreement with your observations. All the concerns about depth are irrelevant to me. It’s about what I’ve missed over the years that still sits in the ground. I’m tickled I found three nice silvers I had previously missed and that’s the point, the Equinox is giving me and others the chance to go back and get them out of the ground. Also I think it’s important to say that I’m not anti XP Deus or anti CTX but rather I’ve come to be “for” the Equinox. It’s not a zero sum game, it’s not black and white. I had zero intentions of selling my other two detectors before this Monday but to be honest I really can’t see myself using them anymore given the type of hunting I do. That doesn’t mean anyone else should and I’m not saying your XYZ machine is not as good as the Equinox either. Anyone interested in a couple of used detectors ??

Awesome job! I'm just curious. Do you feel like you hear things differently with the Nox?

I was running the Deus in 14.4 V4 5 tones. It's Andy's program. I also ran it in 28.8 but never higher. Reactivity set at 1. Using the 9.5 elliptical. This is going to sound kind of weird but the Deus sounds linear but the Equinox to me reports things to your brain differently. I found a barber dime today that had iron on the left and aluminum on the right from the angle that I could hear it. Each signal was repeatable in the row when I swept it with the coil. It was like the right side of my brain heard the aluminum, the middle part heard the barber and the left side of my brain heard the iron. I also don't want this to become an Equinox vs Deus thing as the deus does many things well and I'm pretty proficient with it. To me it just was at it's limits and the coins I found were beyond the deus to find. What I love about Steve's forum is it isn't about detector wars but folks learning. I'm looking forward to you getting yours because I think you're going to be amazed and I'll benefit as a result.

I got out to my old rancho permission with the nox this afternoon and I went to a spot that I had felt reasonably sure I had cleaned it out with my deus in the last month. The Old rancho had approximately 70 small homes spread out over 50-60 acres. It's now a nursery and my spots to hunt are predicated on when the owner moves his trees. Sometimes I literally hunt in between the rows in a 2-3 foot wide by 100 feet lane between trees. I've used Historic aerials to help out but the way I find a house that's been wiped from the face of the earth is to find the big iron left behind in the ground and then start to hunt in between it. The spot I hunted today was cleared about 2 months ago and it's about 60 feet wide by 100 feet deep. I was pretty secure in the fact that I had cleaned the area pretty well as I had taken out clad from the 60's and 70's, 4 mercs and about 20 or so wheaties. In addition I've found some pretty cool relics. I had hunted some of the same ground in the past 3-4 years with the CTX and ATpro just not all of it like I did with the deus. Unlike yesterday when I felt like I had an 80% guess rate in the park, the iron knocked me down to between 50-60% as evidenced by all the junk I dug that fooled me. The fooling came in the beginning though and here's what I learned. - all that junk sounded good, clear and strong however the VDI would move + or - 4 numbers. I'd get a great high tone, and then check the VDI and it would show 23, I'd move around it and then it was 27 or 24 or 25. In order to learn if this was true most of the time I dug all that junk and the tone with the jumpy VDI was the same every time so remember, good tone, jumpy VDI is probably junk. - the nox sounds way different in the iron homesteads than in a park. That may sound stupid or "duh" but my Deus sounded the same no matter if i was at the beach, park or the old rancho. To me, the fact that my deus responds the same isn't good. It means it's not AS ADAPTABLE as the Nox. I don't know if this is the reason but one is a single frequency and one is multi-frequency. I'm not trying to knock the deus but it has more limits than the Equinox and I suspect this is going to be the same for most other detectors. - when you hear the chirp you have to investigate further, don't walk on. One of the wheats only sounded off on one side in one direction only. Every time I got a chirp today it was mixed in with another signal. You could hear the iron and the barber each give a repeatable tone. I didn't have a single target that was by itself, everything was mixed together but the amazing thing was the equinox gave me the info I needed to dig. So back to the hunt in the hunted out iron patch. 6 coppers 1 zinc 3 wheats (46, 37 and one too hard to read) 1 1912 Barber Dime 1 palmolive token that's rotting and the Good Roads bell. All this from a place I'd "cleaned" out over the course of the last month. The barber was in between an iron nail and aluminum. The token had iron in the hole which is why I think it's rotting because the iron seemed to rest on the token. It's probably cliche now but the Equinox is a game changer and today proved it for me as did yesterday in the park. 2 hunted out locations, 3 silvers, 3 wheats and a bunch of clad. Keep in mind that I really don't even understand the Equinox yet. Every park, old home or place is now back open for business no matter who has come before to it. I can't wait for all of you to get yours. You're going to have a lot of fun. Best to all you, Skate

The merc was found about 3 inches down with a pull tab right next to it. I've been over that spot with so many other detectors myself and yet there it was. It was masked all this time and as I took the time to investigate the signal the tone got clearer and the ID read a consistent 26-27. I was saying to myself "I bet this is a silver dime, Steve's diagram says so." Then the next thing you know out pops the merc. It was really a sight to see. The 1940 silver quarter rang loud and clear in another area of pull tabs but the VDI was a little more spaced (31-35) and I figure that's because it was deeper. Another thing that may or may not be helpful to hunters is that the Nox hears everything in the ground. In contrast with my XP deus, it heard lots of things but even it seemed to lack the separation that the Nox has. To me, more separation means you hear more things. I'd been trying to clean up an area of my park over the past 4 months of any and all targets so that when i got my nox and ran over it I could look for deep and true targets. Much to my surprise what I thought my deus had cleared the nox just revealed more of. To me this means that in places you've previously hunted out with other machines you likely have, you've probably reached those machines capacity in that area. I think it must be the multi-frequency that opens up these older areas at least that is what it appears to me to be. I wish I was more technical minded as maybe I would understand it better and be able to relay it to you in a cleaner way. I think the average hunter is going to have fun but the serious hunter is going to be on fire. Today will be a good test for it as I move to an area where it used to be a farm camp of old small homes from the early 1900's that have long been bulldozed and gone and is now a nursery. I've hunted it for 6 years now and I always pull something out of the ground amongst the iron and trash. Hopefully I'll thinkk the nox is still all that after getting out there.

That ring is amazing. That is likely extremely collectible and rare. I'd trade a gold ring for that babe ruth ring any day. That's historical treasure.

Well I got the chance to hit my favorite park this afternoon for the first time with my new nox. I ran it in 5 tones, park 2. To be completely transparent, I ran it in this way because this was somehow how it was when I turned it on today and pushed some buttons. I was able to pair the bluetooth headphones completely on accident as I thought I was following the instructions and it wouldn't paired and then I went to turn them off and when I did it paired. Seriously I had no idea how I did it. When i finally hit the ground all I could think of is man this thing is fast! The park I'm hunting is one of those "hunted out" parks. Over the past 45 years it has had MD club hunts, and a bunch of detectorists like me who have brought every machine known to man to hunt it. I personally have used a silver umax, Whites MXT, V3i, AT pro, Etrac, CTX, XP Deus on it over the years. I was out for 2 hours and it was a great hunt! 2 silver, some clad and of course the junk. Some observations 1. If you're a new detector and you just got a Nox, I'd use 5 tones and for the first 10-15 hours or so I'd just hunt for coins. Set your tone for coins to 25 so it rings loud and start to see how your coins sound in your soil. Learn your VDI's, the merc dime was a 26-27 and the 1940 quarter was 6-7 inches down and gave a VDI 31-35. 2. If you're coming from a Deus the Nox will seem heavy believe it or not. I got so spoiled using my deus in terms of lightness and the nox was heavier. Obviously if you are coming from a CTX or Etrac it will be like swinging a toothpick. 3. The 11" coil is easy to sweep and scrub the grass with. It really feels like you can cover a bunch of ground. 4. Beaver tails come in at 12-13. So does nickels, so does gold. 5. Pinpointing is a breeze but truthfully you can wiggle it just as easy and not use the pinpointer and end up over the center of the coil. The tone is easy to "see" under the coil if you know what i mean. 6. Study Steve's VDI diagram. It's spot on. I knew with an 80% accuracy rate everything I chose to dig. I dug one zinc just to test the VDI and then avoided them the rest. Now when I go jewelry hunting I'll change my approach but for today I could notch it out just by hearing and seeing. 7. The Equinox is a confidence machine. The hype definitely gives a placebo effect. You feel like you're going to find good stuff. 8. I didn't think I'd sell my XP and Excal but after today I likely will and replace them with a second 800 and once the coils come out I'll just keep the 6" coil on one and the 11" on the other for beach and park hunting. 9. Don't let the haters change your view of the Equinox. Multi-frequency is going to be better in 90% of the the situations you'll likely find yourself hunting in. The arguments surrounding FBS and BBS is irrelevant to the average hunter who is simply looking to find coins and jewelry. That's not a criticism of the CTX or Etrac but rather how good the nox is going to be. Who cares if it costs a 3rd of a CTX. Unless you're buying a CTX it's price shouldn't matter. There's probably a ton more I could say if I was a technical type person. I'm not, I'm strictly a treasure hunter and what I don't have in eye sight I have in hearing and the equinox is a really, really good machine. Tomorrow it's to the ranch and the iron patch. I can't wait, life is good. Best to all of you.

I got mine today. It is together and is currently in my garage charging. I put it next to my deus so it could taunt it. My excal II is sulking in the corner knowing it's probably going to be sitting there a while. Life is good.

Love the watch. That's a beauty right there.

Very cool. I get mine on Monday but I have a stupid mentor teacher meeting from 4-7 that I can't get out of so no chance to get to the beach until Tuesday. Did the gold tone match up with your air testing done before? I'm just curious how similar the tones are in the air and wet sand.

since the end of September. It's worked flawless to this point.

6-8 months. I hunt a lot though but I’m not particularly hard on my equipment. My ground is not mineralized like others according to my detectors I use. Garrett’s are great but I’ve had better results with my MI6 and the 90 hours run time is key for me. No running into 7/11 to spend $5 on a 9v because I forgot to check on the battery.

I really like MI6 from XP. The battery has a 90 hour limit (never verified by me just going by what I've read) and is waterproof like all the others. I have never paired mine to my Deus but I don't feel like I need to. I've used the Garrett's before and each one (black/orange) began to false over time. So far all is good with the MI6.

Same here that is a great find. Thrill of a lifetime for sure

You're just not trying hard enough yet.

Thats a great hunt. If you could do that every time you hunted you could move that retirement date up a bit.

Steve is this generations EF Hutton. When Steve speaks, you better listen.

I haven't hit the beaches in Ventura/Oxnard for two weeks. I was hoping that today's wind shift to an onshore flow might bring the surf up to grab some sand. I've been holding off going out there until I get my nox. Hopefully it will be soon. I'm supposed to get mine with this next shipment.

Awesome!! I hope you clean up out there!

Right but if i had bought one from them and paid while they were out of stock wouldn't they have filled my order first? I never completed the order but I went all the way to the point of entering my CC info on a couple of occasions in January.

I'd say the pre-orders are over and now it's just simply a case of supply and demand. Most of us are still waiting for our pre-order but anyone who ordered after the release are now a product of capitalism at it's extreme. In hindsight the smart thing would have been to order from Cabelas initially and gotten on their backorder list. I think if I had done that initially I'd be swinging one now.

So here's a stupid question. Where do old houses or old foundations fit in? What would you use to hunt an older home site? Park 1 or park 2 or would an old homesite require Field 1 or Field 2? Sorry if this has been answered before.

The power of observation is not to be take lightly. I think when they finally find Fenn's treasure there will be much gnashing of teeth as it will likely have been hidden in plain sight. Great story and I hope to be on the end of cache before my time is up.

It takes a real man to admit a mistake like that The first time I took the deus to the beach with the 9.5 on it I had failed to match the puck on my headphones to the coil. The problem was I didn't know I had to do that so I used the speaker on the remote. I hope to get my equinox sometime this week. Good to hear you are enjoying it especially on the beach. If it works for me like it seems to for everyone else I'll be thinning the herd again. At only $800 I think I'd like one to keep in each car.