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My cable is set like yours. Except I use black electrical tape for a more secure cable to rod pressure because of water force. I have been doing my cables like this for years. Your right, you can get another inch. However 1 inch is not going to cut it for me.

Hey Aaron Thanks for this explanation. I now understand why I did not see a physical change of the GB when in tracking mode. Even though I did not run this way for most of my hunting. Now knowing how it works, I would be tempted to try this again on a salt beach.

It just don't know how many times I have to write about this subject. Your hearing is one of the most important items in metal detecting. An ocean beach is one of the noisiest places to be. Waves, wind, people sound. All of these sounds come to you unabated and it will wear on you concentration level. Several makers put speakers in what are shooting muffs for the most part. The cup part starts blocking out 25db of the noise coming to you. If you are not using headphones that block out ambient noise at the beach you are handicapping yourself. PERIOD Here is what I use and have been using for years. Notice in the specs up to -29db rating. Dave https://detectorpro.com/black-widow-headphones/

Had a good friend loan me his Tarsacci for a few months. Settings: Sens 9, Black sand ON, Salt 33, 9khz, disc -30, G-bal 623. Tested both coils First off, if you are tall like me the detector is NOT long enough. I know Steve is working on an extension but here is the problem. Not enough coil cable length. So if you are tall and plan to order one, be sure to ask for longer coil cable length . Myself, I would need 4-5 inches more rod length. Pros: Works good in the wave wash [all metal mode], good depth, silent running wet sand, NO EMI issues in a known EMI problem area, Awesome battery, good sound and volume. Pinpoints well in mixed mode, good target separation, fast recovery speed, large coil was just as stable in saltwater. Cons: Too short, lousy coil mount location on small coil, poor on target identification [vdi display]. Iron wrap around issues, gold chain issue?. I will probably ramble some so if you have a question please ask. For the most part worked in all metal. I was impressed how the Tarsacci handled moving salt water. While it is no GT Sovereign, it is 100% better than the Equinox. There is an initial disturbance by the wave and then sometimes on withdrawal but working in the wash is more than workable. Also you will never lose or bury a target in a hole of soft sand like the equinox. The tarsacci will chase it all the way until you recover. The ability of the machine to give you tone and VDI numbers at depth is a question. I was not confident that the machine separates the difference between iron and non-ferrous well at depth. While I dug very few nails and no bobby pins the MDT had an issue with the ferrous Mexican coins. Many of them would want to ring-up and some of them indicated must dig. I would say anything past 8 inches had issues to where the target would not lock-out. I am sure more time on this machine would solve some of this confidence. One tip I have on deep targets is to take a small scoop of sand 3-4 inches off. The MDT did better reading targets regardless if there was water in the hole made or not. On my last day both myself and my friend were on the MDT and myself the Equinox. I found a gold wrist chain that had a small name plate on it. I hit a solid 5. When we got together the MDT would not lock out on the chain with the 12”round coil, even on top of it. I could take the Equinox to about 4” above it and still locked out at 5. All in all, the machine was a pleasure to use. The increased coverage of the larger coil is well noted, and in my case no difference in salt water effect on the machine. Target identification takes a bit longer than the Equinox, but the MDT exceeds in moving water contact. It is not even close. Also the loss of EMI issues for three blocks of beach is a huge plus. Dave

In all reality. There is not a set non corded phones made that should be used at the beach [that I am aware of]. Get yourself a pair of -25db ambient sound shielding corded headphones and increase your comfort and finds.

A few ideas and a fix. Are you running a coil cover? Have you cleaned it? If a beach has black sand it could only take 10 minutes to have enough black sand under the coil cover to give problems. Cell Phones- 100% fix An aluminum shield that goes over my pod protector.

Sounds harsh. But I doubt a production version of this will ever be released.

Maybe they are reformulating? Since their coils are not better than stock ones?

How deep can you get on this??? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/possible-military-explosive-device-washes-ashore-on-florida-beach/ar-BB1fikoa?ocid=msedgntp

As a beach hunter, I am wondering what you mean by pull tabs getting detected correctly??

Bet I could break that in two days at the beach!!!

Well good thing!!! Was getting ready to start a go-fund-me page for you. 😁

I don't think you understood my first response/question earlier. So I will rephrase it. Since the Equinox has a signal that is so processed how are you going to tell the difference as to what a target is? As in, if you have 5 different items in size and shape that all ring in at 14. Tell me how you are going to call out what those items are before they are in your hand? What can you tell about those items that will make a difference with the Equinox?

Easier to just train the ears on what??? The equinox signal is so processed what are you going to be able to tell the difference of in non-ferrous targets???

It has a different look in different detectors. But to make it simple [for me] It is iron targets that come into the non ferrous zone of the detector either by sound or VDI presentation.

It seems as everyone looks to Nails and Bottle caps as a standard for reducing iron targets. While this debate will NEVER go away, I think there was a planned use for the the FE and F2 mode for modern times. We all see many countries turning to coins that are mainly Ferrous due to the cost of alloys that are non ferrous. So pictured below is the Mexican 1-2 and 5 peso coin. Above is a US penny. These coins are actually not totally ferrous. The gold center portion does contain some sort of low grade non ferrous metal. What is completely unbelievable is the Equinox will identify these coins as Ferrous 100% of the time and when running in IB 6 Very little Iron wrap around occurs. I find this hard to be a coincidence. So maybe there is a train of thought of what engineers are looking at when Iron Out modes are used. Not sure how many other people have tested ferrous coins and those results but maybe some of you can chime in. Anyway the ability to look through/around ferrous coinage is fantastic in my opinion.

I don't know about a problem per say, but there is disappointment in the pin point. After almost three years now recovering targets in Horseshoe mode I just can not see another way. I already hunt in recovery 6. I just wanted to point out for some who hunt lower recovery there are options to narrow that target you are looking at by bumping recovery to 6-7-8. A real game changer for the larger coil too.

Here in lies the problem. You just posted 19 lines of words and three paragraphs for something that should take 4 lines of print. I hunt salt water only. The pin-pointer is completely unusable. So If one were to put objects on the ground and practice pinpointing in horseshoe it can easily be done and accurate. I dig off the rear of the coil, so I will find center and keep moving forward. Two tricks: To narrow the location once you have found the target bounce the recovery speed up to 6-7-8. [horseshoe mode] If you really want to dig iron??? Move around the target until it does not double ring [horseshoe mode] Then the iron will be centered. Done! Dave

The pinpointer on the Equinox is a huge disappointment. Learn how to pinpoint with the Horseshoe mode and stop all your headaches.

I trust that my trusted friend, trusts his own instincts and would trust another known trusted detector in those untrustworthy conditions.

What is a black sand indicator??? Do you mean the overload symbol? Need more of an explanation.

If your a salt water hunter those twist locks can cause lots of grief.

When your ready to sell it Dan let me know!!! 😁

Why the forum? I am out for a 4 hour salt beach hunt again tomorrow. Why not join?

A trusted source has one in salt. He even sent me small segments of wave examples in video where the machine would not be usable. I am good with that. For the record it is about the same movement that makes the Equinox fall on it's face as well. Thanks Dave