Norvic

Your not alone Steve, buggered if I know what the lads on about but the ZEQ............ that is priceless and I suspect will stick. Fred, from my travels of OZ, Marble Bar, lovely surrounding country, sweet gold and a town with character.

On ya

Would be good to know just what caused that EMI, reminds me a bit of the solar panels I`ve had on roofs of prospecting vehicles since the late 80s, not a bother during the VLF days, but the PIs & the Z once you come within about 50ft of the vehicle EMI will start affecting them, at 20ft forget trying to detect and move the vehicle. Even worse at my home where power is all off-grid via solar & wind, recently trying to get some sense out of an oscilloscope on the SDC I relocated into a paddock but that`s another tale for another thread perhaps.

Wow, not being greedy I`ll take the 5th largest no worries...................

Smelt dead flat to me.........

For me in gold, Garret was the leader, then Whites with the GM2, now ML, who next. Why? guess it narrows down to one key man.

Ok this is not in the same league as Jims Discombobulated Tale and Mns Smart MD thread has revived a memory, back a few years before the local Stock Squad (Cattle Police) had their own MDs, they`d occasionally contact me and off they`d take me to a crime scene to see if the MD would detect some evidence. Long story short the VLF A2B whilst not as good as the PIs finding the spent bullet shells but much more capable of checking a carcass for the lead bullet ( carcass GB difficult with a VLF but near impossible with a PI). One dead beast had a massive signal in its gut area, but could not find any recent spent shells in the area. Because the beast had been dead for a few days and out in the hot sun it was quiet swollen but the cattle station owner was keen to find what the signal was, one knife slice and a few of us were off spewing. So we relocated a fair bit upwind with the station owner shaking his head and calling us a mob of town wooses. Again shorten the story after a bit butchering and a lot of swearing the station owner smelling like,well I`ll let you guess, came over with the evidence, was obviously parts of a vehicle lead acid battery. The beast,and apparently not unusual for cattle,had a shot at digesting a battery.

I`d think like Fred those early discriminators. But I guess the 1st smart MD was one with a CPU, if we are to use todays "smart" label. Of interest perhaps the below came up in a Google search

Tis not the tale but how it is told. Told by a master, thank you, Jim may you have a golden year.

Similar here most of our State governments are not fossicker friendly, a lot of ground is taboo and QLD in particular have crazy Fossicking Laws that have the gun loaded against the prospector. However many of our local rural governments are prospector & traveller friendly.eg The Mareeba Shire I live in welcomes RVers, grey nomads, prospectors etc and have a large area set aside for them to camp in at very cheap rates, even have an annual Christmas in July celebration (travelers come up this way in our winter thus July). This attitude brings business and helps rural economies. Paul can fill you in on what I`m on about as in his travels downunder he has seen some of the craziness that exists in our "Laws" and how they create "friction" between property owners and prospectors in particular.

Yeah gold chasing is the same all over OZ, it is important for all sorts of local businesses in rural AU., suspect is the same over the pond in your neck of the woods. Plenty of hype, bit of gold found but plenty of life experience and adventure for travelers. Why not tis life, go out and soak in It, as Paul says' "start another chapter".

I think from my tilt on that article, nugget is a "ring in" from Victoria, bit of promotion by a journo. Each year Queensland goldfields are being over run in winter by hopeful prospectors from south of the border, I keep telling them, no gold here is all down where they come from. Gold fever is remarkable, I remember a fellow years back made it known he got a nice piece in a certain location just down the road a bit, a few weeks later there was standing room only, property owner shut down giving permission to enter etc etc. Hopeful operators come from all over, all no doubt passing over 1000s of ounces at top speed in their haste. You`d make a good living with a mobile pub following these hot tips.....................

For me Xmas was a blast, but crikey yours just blew me away, good on ya.

BB...... Cue to

Cos it is in lbs if you truly believe it is so, you can make it be so, the GoG will look after you then. Time, effort and the right dacks

No No you got it all wrong Paul, the GoG has given them her stamp of approval, we who dare to wear, will reap it in in lbs. Bloody yanks... crikey he`s even starting to sound like a OZie, get him aside SS and beat it out of him with a 4x2 ...............................

OK, Steve & Dave you have spurred me on, the SDC works AOK (no smoke escaped) and is ready to find that magic stuff. Note in the bottom photo, speaker & HDphone socket, the batteries will slide in the space below the CB compartment. Assuming all goes AOK ( Murphy might interrupt) this mod will make the SDC so much easier to swing, of cos it loses the "packability" it had in its original form but for me should be the go. Time will tell.

You`ve started a golden fashion SS, the GoG will not tolerate anyone out there not fitted in appropriate gear, way to go Hawkeye.

Crikey, JW that was a bit of a "prattle", but for newchums to get a bit of an idea on the often complicated process we go through chasing the magic stuff, tis a must read. Very merry Xmas to all, cos Xmas is a special time to be merry and why not tis not a bad excuse.

Crikey, Steve that was quick, Many Thanks I should have started a new thread originally but I didn`t think I`d get around to it so quickly, what with Xmas and all that, just got a wee excited and it was so easy. Of course I haven`t turned it on yet so in a way I`m jumping the gun. If I get the chance today I`ll finish mounting the "box" on the shaft, hang the original SDC battery holder and give it a go. Earlier rain has gone so might get the chance to test it out in my backyard on the real stuff.

I got pretty excited about this so, yesterday I did this and I`ll let the photos tell the story. Bit agricultural but has it been to Jenny Craigs, the SDC box without the electronics weights 839 grams, the "Plumbers" SDC box with the electronics weights 662 grams. I have a couple of 2700Mah LiPo batteries for a Hubsan Drone in the mail should be here next week. I believe one of them will be enough and it weighs 116 grams and will slide in below the circuit board. Alternatively the 18650s in a 2 cell holder will also slide in below the CB but I feel the flat pack LiPos with their PCB will be the more permanent go so as once tested it can be sealed and batteries charged externally, Also in the screw on end cap there is room for the Pro Sonic Trani at present I have the speaker mounted in there with holes cut in the end cap but once finished suspect I`ll just mount the Pro-Sonic Trani and seal as that.

GinCO, double wow from me too, spectacular. BB, go on FNQ????????????? where`s my culler???????? Merry Xmas all.

Good advice except I`d have to delete one thing, I use in conjunction with self-learnt methods, GPS & moving map software and have done so for yonks, (not just to not get lost) this has lead me to really understand the Irish saying Gold Tis where Tis. But I understand what your on about, it is rarely about luck or coincidence. I suspect success in anything comes down to ability that is acquired through the three Rs, blood, sweat & tears giving one the ability to apply learnt wisdom. It is the same in another old passion fishing, only a small percentage get a fish frequently.

If the coil can be swung right on the surface where those pieces were, I`d say the GPZ7000 would get all of those in its depth range, a HF VLF I would also say this again stating in its depth range, also probably this would be true for all the more solid pieces with ML PIs in its depth range, I say ML PIs because that is the only PIs I`ve used. Now if the mineralization is hot, the GPZ 7000 I believe will get them deeper then the other MDs. With the PIs getting most at more depth then the VLFs. With the VLFs being limited by the mineralization, I`d put them again getting the lot if they are in their depth range. If the mineralization is zilch, I`d still go with the GPZ 7000 getting them at more depth but the gap would be narrowed and the VLFs would gain a bit of depth. As per the above I`d take the GPZ 7000 providing of course its smallest coil the 14" can be swept right on the ground and the gold is not sitting under a fence, close to EMI sources or surrounded by heaps of trash. In the 5th and 10 th photo I can`t see any gold so I have not included them in my "assay".

JW Yeah the Zs the most difficult for those bits, especially those specks with the 19, but it is remarkable that the 14 and 19 can score those pieces at depth way beyond any other detector. My method originated with the VLFs, the GM2 in particular, I suspect if I kept a nugget count it would be the leader detector for me, not in weight just numbers. Yeah I`ll keep trying a scoop but it is easy to leave behind, especially now I`ve the Monster to locate those difficult ones once dug out. Got a mate that had a 100+ oz patch he found, a broken down reef with many 1000s of small stuff, surprising to me, he is now converted and uses a scoop all the time, so tis hope for me.