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I haven't got the weight yet as all the prototypes are in the hands of people using them, X-coils don't have one on hand however it's unlikely to be all that heavy, the stock GPZ 14x13" is about 1300 grams from memory, the 22" Concentric coil for the GPZ from X-coils is right about on 1500 grams including skid plate so my guess is under 2000 grams. I'd not be surprised if the Minelab GPZ 19" coil weighs more at 1830 grams especially seeing GPX windings are lighter than GPZ. It would work on detectors like the GP3500.

One of the major things you'll find with something like that Manticore that you'll miss with your Equinox 800 is the big hole in your wallet buying the Manticore leaves. Detectors were already so good before these new ones come out that there is not a significant difference in my opinion, yes they have strong points older models may not, how much that changes someones finds really depends on what they hunt and where, for a majority of people I suspect there would be very little difference in their finds.

yea, I can't imagine it's light, but if I was in a place that was viable to swing such a beast I'd gladly swing it. It was made because of popular demand in their part of the world for ancient gold relics.

They must have really wanted it bad to import from Australia... bet that cost a mint

I will find out for you.

yea, the poll only let me ask 3 questions.

A couple of years ago X-coils discontinued older legacy model GPX coils, however demand has been large in their part of the world by relic hunters and big deep gold hunters for a large coil, so they come up with the goods with a 32" Spiral wound GPX 4500/5000 coil. It's an absolute monster of a coil, I can't imagine this being sold into the international market due to shipping a coil this size, hopefully the people in Europe can find some good deep relics and gold with this thing. It's good seeing some life brought into older models with all the excitement and talk these days of the newer models.

Thanks, fixed. I don't think you can change your vote though.

I thought it's time we kicked off a poll to see how happy people are with their purchase if they've purchased one of the new models. The forum limits the number of questions you can ask so it's a pretty simple poll to get an idea of how many people bought one of these new models and how many are finding it as good or better than their old model. Feel free to comment below with other things you're found with the new models, hopefully Minelab reads it and takes not of anything people bring up of importance.

That's great to hear, I've always found Minelab customer service good but I've obviously never used the US repair agent. With spam filters these days which are pretty necessary on publicly broadcasted email addresses it's pretty easy for an email to disappear into space. Excellent they contacted you and sorted you out, never heard of someone to get the fix done and not be happy with the results, it's the primary reason I've stuck with my 6000 and not swinging an Axiom right now, seeing I've invested so much into the 6000 I've just stuck with it after the fix, and really like it now. Let us know how you go with Garrett and the arm cuff, I doubt you'll be disappointed in their response.

yup, that's the puzzle.

I'm very pleased you are getting the EMI fix done, you won't regret that one. It's hard not to like Garrett as a business, solid products and a good ethos as a business that's focused on their customers, something some other manufacturers lack.

Skilled repair, I couldn't have done better myself, in fact I'd probably do quite a bit worse 🙂 I'm sure Garrett will replace the cuff for you no problems at all. My experience with Garrett has been nothing but positive. I've never had to use warranty on my Garrett products but they've been plenty helpful in other ways when I've needed it buying bits and pieces and even helping me get a detector I couldn't buy locally by assisting by getting it all the way from the US of A.

Thanks for the post, I had a friend who tried out the Gold Finder 2000 and was quite disappointed by its fine gold performance vs the GM1000 which he was more used to using, the 24k on the other hand is a beast!

I can just picture you sitting in the sand in your budgie smugglers pushing it around looking for coins Mitchel 🙂 You maybe able to retire your Nox.

I for one won't be flashing back, in my mild soils the update is exactly what I was hoping for. It's kept depth the same while improving target ID's.

ahh yup, I was able to replicate your detectors setting behaviour. Damn, I was hoping it was as simple as you needed a replacement detector.

Sorry about the bad lighting, but there is most certainly something wrong with your firmware, it really makes no sense either but with mine, as is meant to happen when you change stabliser off 0 it's meant to turn on, and off when you go back to 0, yours doesn't do this and that to me makes absolutely no sense, you still have a software problem. Maybe your Manticore has bad memory corrupting the files as what you're getting is weird, it makes no sense, they should all behave the exact same running the same software unless something is corrupting the software and in your case it sounds like that's exactly what's happening. I'm just trying to translate your issue into computers as that's what I know and for example if you were to have a computer with a bad memory module and you flash it's bios with an update you will get corruption in the update, it could be as simple as text doesn't come out how you expect or it could be much more of an issue causing the flash to fail, but a common thing was something like the bootloader screen normally saying American Megatrends AMI Bios version 101.10 or something, and after the flash with the bad memory it would say A%mer-can M^gatrends AM7 Biov ver0sion 1.~!.`10 with the code being damaged in the transfer by the bad memory. This seems to me like it's what's happening with your detector, something similar. I don't think your problem is firmware related, I think you've got a faulty detector.

I think a mistake Minelab have made is allowing saved settings to transfer across between firmware versions. An example of this is when people roll back firmware versions they've had things like the big red numbers exist and stuck on with a firmware that didn't even have them. I think best practice with Manticore firmware updates would be the factory reset before and after updating which is what I did with mine, and generally always do on detectors that update. A habit I learnt over the years flashing many thousands of laptop and computer motherboards. It's always best to start from a clean slate.

Some interesting reading. https://www.tuko.co.ke/416534-rick-ness-net-worth-how-earn-episode.html

For a "Rubbish show" someones watching it, A few headlines about Gold Rush, DISCOVERY’S #1 RATED AND MOST WATCHED SERIES “GOLD RUSH” RETURNS FOR AN ALL-NEW SEASON DISCOVERY’S #1-RATED SHOW ‘GOLD RUSH’ RETURNS FOR ITS LANDMARK 10TH SEASON WITH NEW CLAIMS, CREWS AND CHALLENGES DISCOVERY CHANNEL’S GOLD RUSH SEASON SIX PREMIERE TOPS ALL OF TELEVISION ON FRIDAY IN MEN 25-54 GOLD RUSH ENDS SEASON FIVE WITH BEST SEASON FINALE EVER AND 6.4 MILLION VIEWERS GOLD RUSH SETS SEASON RECORD WITH 6.1 MILLION VIEWERS ON FRIDAY JANUARY 30 Discovery Channel's GOLD RUSH was the #1 program in ALL OF TELEVISION among M25-54, M18-49 and M18-34 delivery for the fourth consecutive week, no exclusions on Friday, January 23, based upon Nielsen's Live +3 Discovery Channel hit the mother lode on Friday, Oct. 16 as GOLD RUSH returned for an all-new season and ranked as Friday night’s #1 telecast on All of Television among Men 25-54, topping all its Prime Time television competitors, including FOX’s ALCS game #1 (by +9%), ABC’s Shark Tank and CBS’ Blue Bloods, among others in L+3. GOLD RUSH also beat FOX’s ALCS game #1 in Adults 25-54 (by +7%). GOLD RUSH on cable was #1 across Adults/Men/Women 25-54/18-49, Adults and Men 18-34 and Total Viewers P2+, while Discovery was the #1 cable network for the night among Adults, Men, Women and Total Viewers P2+. It's just some entertainment, it doesn't have to be 100% real and showing it how it is. It has to be a show that has viewers that want to watch it, and for that it's been an extraordinary success. That's why there are so many seasons and spin offs.

WOWOWOWOWOW they've made the 6" Concentric coil. I'm so glad they're including coil covers, the covers are just impossible to get in NZ otherwise, and importing a coil cover from the USA costs what you guys pay for the coil 🙂 I guess they felt the other sizes were not going to be good sellers, but in reality that Concentric is the must have coil for 24k owners. This is great news, thanks Garrett.

At least VLF's have plenty of competition, if it was anything like the lack of competition for PI type gold detectors the Manticore would be on offer for $8000.

Probably true, Target ID's are certainly a shortcut to some success. For the average beginner learning the usage and nuances of a no-ID detector would be enough to put many off the hobby although a lot of the entry level type no ID detectors just have a beep or door bell with no way to discern targets.

Have you just considered doing a factory reset to see if it changes it back?