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Glad it worked out for you and thanks for posting feedback, it encourages the last stragglers to finally get it done which they should. The change is rather noticeable on just about every detector that has had it done from what I've seen so far... Fantastic service by Miners Den.

JW's been going through the same problem, first one broke, bought a new one, new one broke. They're a pretty weak design. The Aussies have made an aftermarket one, not sure how much better if at all it is especially being what looks to be 3D printed but its a different way of doing it that perhaps maybe more robust and reliable. I seem to have lost the ability to put links into text so here is the dirty great big link to it to see it properly. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/275177426585?hash=item4011da4e99:g:WB8AAOSwsJtjDrfZ&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8Gka1hTOv%2ByesxI1k48b%2FFUeDNIitQtzn18MkxKioDYbFUjYIqBrKSwCoDAFgixluIT1SFoLJXxDoj7Eyr%2FuMGvwQNpCaG4ESt0Mhg26CnGy26DxIP%2FMkjfgdunToNrRU%2FgT5nIHXrv8fJg4O91f%2FemcRSuF7y147pxRHrvlCy8XnVg3jaReRJ5MBmIG3uLisSxtfJJ61UO05IiBXxyOS50LMTG%2BevArFDRl69D1qCARGk%2BRTTM16ru8II6YYRADMnHwHdGerJNtzRNppg81k60y%2B4Yj54iDzoVkVhO8jHnhHXd77L9cg7Q6cFSi7GcGEA%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_yXyeSoYg

There has been a great Kentucky Hoard found, and fortunately it wasn't my stash of KFC... Original Story https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/archaeology/man-finds-small-fortune-buried-on-his-farm/news-story/b33a742a3441efa0815c96cf1f12a138 A Kentucky man has discovered a “small fortune” buried in the dirt at his rural farm after unearthing more than 800 Civil War-era coins potentially worth more than a million dollars. The stunning treasure trove has been dubbed the “Great Kentucky Hoard” and includes hundreds of US gold pieces dating to between 1840 and 1863. In a short video released by collectable coin seller GovMint, the man — whose identity and specific location have not been made public — says: “This is the most insane thing ever. Those are all $1 gold coins, $20 gold coins, $10 gold coins,” as he aims his camera at the artefacts lodged in the dirt. GovMint described his find as the “discovery of a lifetime”. The coins after being authenticated. According to the Numismatic Guaranty Co (NGC), which certified the coins’ authenticity, and GovMint, where the coins were sold, 95 per cent of the hoard consisted of gold dollars, known as $1 Gold Indians, along with 20 $10 Gold Liberty coins and eight $20 Gold Liberty coins. The rarest is the 1863-P $20 1-ounce gold Liberty coin. Just one of these coins can sell for six figures at auction — the Great Kentucky Hoard boasts 18 of them. NGC’s website notes that the $20 Liberty coin, which circulated from 1850 to 1907, was minted by the Treasury Department after gold was discovered in California. The $20 Liberty coins found on the man’s property are even rarer because they do not include the words “In God We Trust,” which was added in 1866 after the end of the Civil War. NGC also noted “several interesting varieties and errors (that) were also discovered”, which can make a rare coin even more valuable. One of the most sought after coins in US history is a 1943 Lincoln Penny that appeared entirely by accident after a handful of coins were accidentally made from copper. Rare coin dealer Jeff Garrett, who was brought in to handle the Great Kentucky Hoard, said it was a “virtual time capsule of Civil War-era coinage”. As well as providing an unexpected fortune to the rural farmer, the coins also shed light on a troubled period of American history when the newly independent country was embroiled in civil war. Kentucky was a neutral border state between the north and south, which meant residents frequently found themselves torn between the warring sides. Many wealthy Kentuckians are rumoured to have buried huge sums of money to prevent them from being stolen by militaries. In 1872, James Langstaff left a letter saying he had buried $20,000 worth of gold coins on his property in Paducah, Kentucky, while fellow Kentuckian William Pettit buried $80,000 worth of gold coins near Lexington. According to LiveScience, neither of these bounties have been recovered — though, unlike in many countries, Americans aren’t required to report historic finds discovered on private property.

Can't go wrong with Eneloop. Pimento knows what's he's talking about with the above posts. Great advice.

Mine charge forever, the same as my ML100's that came with my GPX 6000, I don't care, I'm never going to use them but not all that impressed with such expensive products being faulty out of the box on two detectors. I'd never used them and I only even charged them up so I could use them to put the new firmware on them, and left them on overnight and still charging the next day, left them on all day charging and still didn't charge. I got the new firmware on them hoping it would fix it and it didn't. Put them back in the cupboard where they'll spend the rest of their life.

Oh, I sent you a PM as it just happened to me. I didn't see this thread.

Here is the full video, the action of the find starts about the 6 and a half minute mark. You will see he puts on a Coiltek coil to use as a pinpointer as 32" is way too big to narrow down the target, and the Coiltek coil doesn't hear the target until down into the hole. It's very deep! It's really worth watching the video, pretty incredible. He blurs the find a bit occasionally as they're often cautious about revealing too much about the finds and covers up the hole in a way nobody would know he even dug there. The depth of the hole is amazing really, it took him all day and into the night to dig it. I can't believe how deep old relics can be found. The 15x12" coil would not find it and larger coils like the 25" Nugget Finder DDX have missed it in the past, it's a spot they've been getting bayonets out of with the previous coils. @jasong I think you'll like the video, just the hard work the guy had to do to dig the hole exhausted me watching it 🙂

I agree.

I haven't used the 900 however the 800 is very close to the same for this purpose, The reason I prefer the Nox over the Gold Monster even though the GM has a slightly smaller coil is purely because of features and Multi-IQ, having the ability to change frequencies is very handy especially when it comes to EMI, I use Multi-IQ when I can, under power lines I switch to 40kHz, I find multi-IQ best for gold hunting which the GM lacks. The GM is quite slow at ground balancing, the Nox can be manually ground balanced, or tracked, not having to use tracking like on the GM I think can be an advantage. The Nox 900 has higher sensitivity settings too than the 800 so maybe slightly better if they can be used in some spots. The sensitivity levels on the Nox have a much more defined scale so you can get it just right to get the most out of it. Being able to change the recovery speed can be advantageous too, in my milder soils I can lower it a lot for low and slow detecting to pick out the little bits at depth the GM can miss. Another bonus which may appeal to you is the target ID's and the ability to notch out hot rocks, yes of course notching comes with the risk of missing some gold IF the gold comes up the same Target ID as the hot rock but in a high hot rock content area by notching out the hot rocks can be the difference between finding some gold and being put into a mental asylum. Most hot rocks come up in the iron range but a few come up at about 12 and 13, most small gold comes in well under that with tiny bits 1 and 2 and slowly going up in the numbers as they get bigger. It takes over a gram size bit to get up into the hot rock number and your GPX or GPZ should have found those bits anyway. I think of it a bit like the GPX 6000 and GPZ 7000 with the GM being the GPX and the Nox being the GPZ, one having features and settings, the other being automatic and lacking control. The GM meter is all over the place even in my milder soils, it only locks on with rather large targets, the Nox target ID's are vastly different, on small gold they'll be a 1 or 2 only bouncing into iron if the gold is extremely small or deep, I find the Target ID's much more accurate than the probability meter, especially when using Multi-IQ. As your soil seems quite nasty I'm not sure how well that will stand up but @Jeff McClendon would likely be the person to talk to on that. Multi-IQ does seem to handle bad soil better than single frequency machines and offer more stable ID's than single frequency. I can't see a single reason I'd use my GM over the Nox and other than as a pinpointer I've never used it again once I made the switch to the Nox. At the moment it's so unknown for the Manticore with no small coils, but for the price even if it is better in the end it won't be much better, certainly not the price difference better and I'd not be surprised if I just use my trusty 800 with 6" coil over my Manticore even when it has smaller coils, the Nox 800 is just that good for prospecting. I think Minelab will come out with a multi-IQ Gold Monster at some point and they may take it a bit higher on the frequencies to make it a bit better than the Nox, if they don't do that they may as well discontinue the GM as anyone with an Equinox is unlikely to want to use the GM anymore. If I was you I'd just pick up a second hand Nox 800 with 6" coil from someone "upgrading" to the 900 or Manticore, as a land gold hunter you're not going to care about the risk of leaking and the coil ears on the 6" are robust being a tiny coil so the main negatives of the older model don't really matter to you.

I agree completely, and I've done the test you're talking about at the bottom there using a real vs clone model, results were surprising but not all that surprising I guess, let's just say I could easily pick up the wrong detector and not be too worried I did, the key is the coil as they seem to not know how to make coils properly, ditch the fake coils and get a Nel, Detech or genuine FT coil and life is good. Who knows when it comes to build quality of the detector and how long it will last, by looking at the dodgy one and the real one I couldn't tell much of a different except the foam handle thing was a bit loose on the dodgy one, not as tight of a fit and obviously the branding printed on it. The PCB quality looked fine, I think the build quality over all will be it's let down, one of the screws was done up so tight at the factory it had broken its mount on the control pod, the battery clip has popped off a few times, it just doesn't appear the quality of the genuine. The fakes are all over the place in this country, largely as FT has no presence here after their only dealer shut down a couple of years ago and the local auction sites have been flooded with fakes so I couldn't resist trying one when I could pick it up second hand for the price I spent on dinner the night before. I ended up giving it to little nephew to muck around with, and left a Nel coil on it for him and threw out the fake coils it came with, they're poor performers. I don't think he's ever used it except the day he got it. 😉 It's more of a moral question of buying one and that's up to the buyer and their reasons for buying it, if it's all they can afford it becomes a difficult decision, I personally don't agree with buying a fake as I'd rather First Texas stay alive but if the patents have ran out and it's all legit making them then who knows, I don't know how that side of it works but I'd guess what they've done is still wrong as they seem an exact duplicate from software to hardware so it just seems wrong to me and I'd rather they put their efforts into making their own detectors rather than stealing someone elses. I guess it's also an issue as they've been selling the detectors for decades its really opened them up to fakes, brands that keep progressing making new models rarely get fakes and they incorporate encryption to prevent them, you don't see fake Legends and by the time there is, if ever they'll be making a Legend 2 and the Legend will be an old discontinued model.

Seeing nobody has answered and you're chasing gold nuggets at the moment I would say the Equinox 900 purely as it has the 6" coil and Coiltek 10x5" coil available for it, ask me again "if" the smaller coil comes out for the Manticore and "if" Coiltek make coils for the Manticore and my opinion may change. Seeing the stock small coil for the Manticore is going to be bigger at 8x5.5" over the Nox 6" coil I would not hedge my bets on the Manticore being more sensitive than the Nox 900, although it's entirely possible it will be, they have recently improved small gold sensitivity on the Manticore and in my testing 11" coil on the Nox 800 vs the 11" coil on the Manticore they're very close now, prior to the update the Nox won. In saying that my testing wasn't done in a remote area where I could wind up the Manticore sensitivity, it has higher sensitivity settings than the Nox 900 and in remote gold locations running these higher sesntivity settings may well be possible, at least here I can run in maximum sensitivity on my Manticore with the 11" coil and it be perfectly stable. So in summary, too soon to know, if you're desperate to buy now the Nox 900 is the safe bet, if you're willing to wait and see I wouldn't be surprised if the Manticore wins. When it comes to coins/jewellery and so on they're all so close, including the Nox 800, yes the Manticore has advantages and also disadvantages (poor target ID compared to the Equinox 800, the 900 is similar to the Manticore with more unstable ID's) Realistically you could buy a Nox 800, 900 or Manticore and end up happy. I think the Manticore is very over-priced given it's benefits or lack thereof over the others.

Not sure on the age of the Helmet but they do tend to find a few of them over in that part of the world I've been told the ground is quite heavily hit where it was found being a productive area and the helmet was missed until now, one guy even ran the 25" DDX NF coil.

This is an early result of a guy using the 32" Coil, I would hate to dig holes this deep, but I'd love it for the finds just the same. He's still making the full video and I'll put it here when he's finished, he just made a little preview video.

Nope, this one is wired correctly.

It would be a lot of work a consolidated section with the best posts in categories would be great as a sticky up top somewhere or a section like the detector database. Some people over time have done some brilliant posts that are read at the time by a few and then disappear as old posts long gone from common view, if these sort of posts had a home, even if they're edited to make sense outside of the posts chain by admin so they make more sense as an individual post. It would be one huge project I guess especially going back over old posts, probably easier based upon new posts being done but there has been tonnes of real gold in old posts so setting out some categories and copying great posts into the suitable categories over time it would build up quite a good database of information on topics.

Yes, the forum should have a "post of the week" section where the best post each week is cataloged, some good posts are buried away in sections only some people read but would benefit from reading, a post of the week section would consolidate these good posts in a spot where everyone could check it out. A bit of work, but I think would have a bit of interest.

Outstanding, it looks ancient. Congratulations on the excellent find.

I like reading stories about peoples finds no matter how good someone else thinks they are. What would a forum be without people posting their finds, although I stopped posting mine some time ago as I lost the drive to do so. I commend everyone willing to take the time to post their finds and the story to go with them and I thank them for doing so regardless of how "good' their finds are.

If they do release a small elliptical would that not end of life the Deus 1? I guess not unless the Deus 2 improves its small gold capability which the small elliptical would help but not resolve I would guess seeing it's under performing against other detectors at the moment with similar or even larger coils hooked up. They need the Deus 1 in their range anyway as you can't only sell a very high priced detector, you need something for the normal user to buy, the ORX isn't right for that, the Deus 1 covers it to a limited degree but it needs something over the Deus 2 and that small coil is it. It's funny how the world works, it always comes down to coils or lack thereof that end up causing the uproar after detectors are released and with the Deus 2 being even more restricted than the chipped competitors the situation in a way is worse as at least they can get some aftermarket.

So how do gadgets like this compare to Pulse Induction detectors with a big coil when it comes to depth on these hoard type targets? I guess their advantage is they offer some discrimination which is probably better than the discrimination on say a GPX 5000 with a large DD coil.

no, I just had the WM12 making the videos, I was lazy and didn't want to harness up where my SP01 is attached.

I wonder if XP will ever make a PI, their focus is always on finding good stuff in junk due to the nature of the ground conditions in Europe with so much history, that's a PI's worst enemy finding good stuff in junk. If they do make a PI it would sell poorly in their traditional market so they'd be chasing a new market as a relatively unknown brand to prospectors.

I was close, the weight is 1860 grams. Basically the same weight as the GPZ 19" Coil, only 32 inches instead.

I think its really cool they've come out with a product a bit different, and in their market there is obviously demand for it, pretty useless for me, but good for those in places that could use it.

Yea, but they'd be Minelab branded scales and if the same engineer makes them as made the Manticore or Equinox 700/900 the scales numbers would bounce around all over the place so you'd find yourself estimating the weight of your gold.