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  1. Garrett just informed us happy folks in USA, the proven Axiom is now available in the US in the same LITE package they have been offering in Australia. I know this detector well as many of you seen the posts of Success picks my Field Staff/I have shared the last year. Yes I feel it's the best priced high performance PI detector on the market in the USA at this time. Yes it has features my GPX-6000 and GPZ-7000 do not. If you don't think it can find small gold, sorry you are mistaken. It's incredible at the small stuff, just ask Steve H or Lunk. Now's your chance to get this detector for $1000 less. Don't forget, since I am a VET myself, I offer the full 15% to those Veteran customers, as you earned it. Veterans supporting Veterans. Semper Fi. Picks of Success (below) when we were testing different prototypes. Happy Hunting. Gerry
  2. Thank you Gerry & Phrunt. While the 6000 has been a shambles & a frustration for many, I somehow have not had issues with mine. Touch wood. We do know who the tester were Gerry. Maybe they were just not aware of the issues at that time or ML did ignore them. JP did promote it as being highly strung & on the edge due to the nature of the beast & its heightened sensitivity & jittery nature therefore etc etc. I am not a Minelab basher as such as I have loved all my ML machines. I just don't like their business model antics in controlling their market share/domination & take my hat off to the likes of X coils who developed a work around for the chip on the 7000 & have obviously made a heap of very good coils that has called ML out on their say so that a 10" coil wasn't physically possible to make with the amount of wire winding required in the small space of a 10" coil. Despite them saying they would make a 10" coil. X coils pumped out not only a 10" but also an 8" coil & many more. The CC's being from what I have seen a huge hit. Left egg on ML's face & has basically called them out as liars. @Phrunt. I find it interesting that the bit of gold you did find while detecting with Mitchel was found with the 6000 & an aftermarket coil despite your favoritism being with the 7000 & 8" X coil that found you nothing. While you showed that video of your patch clean up at the area you took Mitchel too with the 7000 & 8" X coil. Who is to say that the 6000 wouldn't have found those with the 10x5 Goldhawk coil in among those thyme bushes? I have to admit that the 15" CC seems very impressive. D4G
  3. I have no issues with Simon and many others showing frustration with the GPX-6000, Minelab earned it. Why did not the original Field Testers notify Minelab of the issues? Maybe they did and Minelab turned a cheek, we will never know. This I know for a fact. I complained about the issues to Minelab USA and was lied to. I also sent an email and to this day have yet to get a reply. Not sure if the folks at Minelab USA has any say anymore, but they did back in the 90's when I first started promoting Minelab. Now you might call me a sour Minelab Dealer, but at the same time, I promote the heck out of their detectors and show more pics of gold success than most other dealers who sell the same product. I love their technologies and performances. I also appreciate the 3 year warranty as for many years it was only 2 yrs. I don't appreciate their strategies of price points. I say this as I have been one trying to sell their detectors for near 30 yrs. Why not offer the same detectors at 1/2 the price (still more than the competition) and sell twice as many. Then come out with new versions every 3 to 4 yrs (like they did back in the early days) instead of waiting 9 years (based on GPZ-7000). Back to the next new big detector from Minelab. It will happen and probably as Lunk mentioned (during the May 2025 Worldwide Conference. What do I hope for? A detector with GPZ-7000 depth on solid gold, with the lighter coils, size and ergonomics of a GPX-6000 and also have Sensitivity of specimen gold, Discrimination and Fine Tuning that the Axiom has and then price this package at $4999 US. I would think gold could be around $2500 US an oz and we could sell twice as many detectors. Only time will tell.
  4. Sad you got a dud & also lost 12 months of critical detecting time. Especially as your friend got one quite early as we both got one about the same time as we were communicating a bit at that time. He got 12 months on you & most likely on the ground you have been doing as well. That is my point with the "early bird gets the worm" comment in my earlier post. Also that ML honour their warranties so any issues they will sort out. From memory you were so frustrated with your dud out of the box that you bashed it & it came to life. Whether that was good or bad & that maybe you should have sent it back under warranty, you will never know. I guess by going public that you bashed it would void your warranty anyway. Not everybody in detecting world is evil or has evil intent. That is most likely not the right way to word it but I am referring to X coils (the non evil party) & again those that went down that path, & obviously as it turned out against Minelabs wishes & many others, the early bird again got the worm. I am one that didn't go down that path but most definitely see its benefits. Despite all the fallout from that saga if it wasn't for X coils pushing minelabs hand we wouldn't have the NF Z search coils that so many go on about being better than the ML coils for the 7000. Any innervation, no matter who or where it comes from, has to benefit us detector/coil users. I think we are now all up to speed on Minelabs business model of mining the miners & ham stringing their detector/coil combinations in regards to aftermarket coils that don't get their approval.... for obvious financial reasons to them & their detector sales. Competition is good & are other manufacturers now going to get a good slice of the pie or is it too late with gold getting harder to find by the day. Despite its high price at the moment, the glory days are over & we are just struggling along on the vapour of an oily rag. D4G
  5. The pulse induction detectors currently manufactured and listed on Minelab's website are the SDC2300, GPX 5000 and GPX 6000. There is also the GPZ 7000 but it uses what Minelab labels ZVT=zero voltage transmission instead of pulse induction or induction balance tech.
  6. I did a rough count on the most used/favorite coils and added them up minus the single numbers, thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts and experiences. Here’s what I came up with: GPZ-7000 has 5 for NF 12” Zsearch 3 for OEM 14x13” 2 each for X-coils 8” 2 each for X-coils 15”CC GPX-6000 has 6 for Coiltek 10x5” Goldhawk 3 for 11” OEM 2 for NF 12x7” Exceed GPX-5000 has 5 for 15” Evo Spiral 4 for 14x9” Evo Spiral 3 for 12” Evo Spiral 2 for 19” Evo Spiral SDC-2300 has 2 for Coiltek 11” Mono Equinox series has 3 for the 6” coil Gold Bug 2 has 3 for the 6.5” CC Axiom seems to favor the 11x7” coils from my experience.
  7. For myself I tend to use the following coils the most: GPZ-7000 14x13” Stock DOD GPX-6000 10x5” Goldhawk Mono GPX-5000 14x9” Evolution Mono Equinox 900 6” DD Gold Bug 2 6x3” CC
  8. Much is said about EMI sometimes disrupting smooth operation of our Metal detectors, wondering if adding a ferrite ring core to each cable would help. I see the correct size (9mm) on Amazon for about $1 apiece.
  9. As I recall the QED was sold with a couple of those ferrite cores to attach to the coil cable next to where it connected into its control box. Maybe phrunt when he owned a QED had found if the ferrite core made any difference when attached to the coil cable?
  10. Don't be so sure Steve.... from what I hear, this isn't so far from reality, Hopefully the 20% more depth is on all sizes and shapes of gold and not just a chart claiming better depth. I would still like to see the actual Star Chart and GPZ 40% deeper testing site details on how they came to these conclusions. I am also worried that the next release will have proprietary coil options that do not cover all gold types or sizes until you upgrade to the flagship version, even the 7000 never allowed us to buy any approved coils under 12”. In the end, I guess Minelab still controls the market and I’ll just have to conform and buy whatever performance improvements help me be able to find more targets.
  11. yea, if you're in ground the EVO's on the GPX 4500 were noisy I think you would find the same with the spirals and it's the reason X-coil make standard bundle DOD coils too like the Z-search coils, the sensitivity would be the main benefit other than being able to pick the size coil you really want to use rather than the Z-search which is almost the same size as the stock coil, if you don't need that it's a pointless exercise. As Lesgold was pointing out he was able to find gold deeper with the 12" than the 14x13", that makes sense as at the right size gold there is always a cross over a smaller coil will do better than a bigger one on some gold, even if it's only slightly smaller, pretty hard to find that sweet spot in the wild but I guess they were able to do that with various target checking between the two. As we all know different ground changes results. I cruise around in HY/Normal with a sensitivity of 19, I can easily run 20 with any of the X-coils so I'm one that benefits a lot from the extra sensitivity as it doesn't change my stability at all and we are a place that tiny gold is the gold you're going to find 99% of the time, but I find 19 sensitivity has a more stable threshold which I like and going that extra notch to 20 doesn't seem to provide anything much more than a little bit more unstable threshold. In saying that, the 7000's a dream even at 20 to run for its stability over the 6000. I was just using the 7 with 8" yesterday after not using it for a few months as I wanted to get my money's worth out of the 6000 as if it plays up out of warranty, I'm just getting rid of it, I may even offload it before the warranty runs out as I don't have a lot of faith in it being a long lasting detector, what a smooth nice running detector the GPZ is by comparison, I'd forgotten how smooth it runs compared to the 6000, in fact it was just purring along perfectly.
  12. Any time you place ferrite near a pancake coil it causes the flux lines to bend more. This is why mineralized ground reduces depth, it increases the flux curvature and reduces flux density at depth. Placing a ferrite shell on top of the coil certainly does what you envision (reduces the top-side field); at the same time it increases the bottom-side flux density very close to the coil but this advantage is quickly lost and at depth the flux density is reduced. Here is an FEM plot: Here is the same coil with the ferrite set to air: It's possible the ferrite-shelled coil would be good for shallow tiny nugget detection. Another (lighter) possibility is to design an anti-Helmholtz coil, where an anti-phased bucking coil placed just above the TX coil to "focus" the field downward: Unfortunately it tends to also reduce flux density at depth compared to just a single TX coil. .
  13. I'm envisioning the opposite of a ferrite core, more like an exterior casing to concentrate flux such that the amount of magnetic field energy is maximized towards the ground and minimized towards open air. Since half of the field of a coil radiates upwards and thus is not particularly useful for detecting, it seems to make sense to put it where it's more useful - if possible? Here is a cutaway diagram. Would this not have any benefit, at least for near surface flux density concentration? At the field strengths of PI machines I'd guess something like fairly thin 24 gauge steel would be more than enough, saturation is probably ok since the goal would just be some improvement, not capturing all the upwards flux. Is there a way to use that other half of the "wasted" (using that term loosely) magnetic field energy more usefully downwards if this doesn't work? Sort of like the idea behind a Halbach Array, except whatever the EM version would be? Weight alone doesn't have to be a deal breaker. For instance if a hypothetical 12" coil with flux shaping components weighed the same as a 20" standard coil, can it be made to obtain similar depths? If so, then it'd be worth it due to maneuverability with all other things being equal.
  14. A very interesting thread. Jason: No, adding ferrite won't help, it'll just make the coil heavy. The only exception is in a pinpointer where a ferrite rod is used to concentrate the field. This works well in a PI or energy theft pinpointer which use a mono coil. When you use an IB coil the RX must be air-cored so, ferinstance, the White's TRX has the TX coil wound on a ferrite rod but the RX coil is on a plastic bobbin. If this concept were used in a regular detector, you would have a big long ferrite for the TX coil with the RX underneath, so the coil is 8" thick and weighs 20 lbs. Chet: Have you ever tried using FEM software?
  15. What an amazing group of eager customers we had on the 3 Days Field Training. The weather could not have been any better with temps in the 70's. Friday was so sunny many of us ended up with red face and a few days later peeling skins from the sunburn. Soil was still very damp and in fact some standing water in mud puddles on the way up to camp. My Field staff/I enjoyed a variety of detectors in the class. Gold Bug-2's, Gold Monster 1000, Equinox 800, Equinox 900, Manticores, GPX-6000's and a GPZ-7000. 1st day was mostly classroom and as soon as the students with a variety of backgrounds were able to witness the varieties of gold and how they respond to different detectors, boy did they start getting excited. As expected, the GB-2's coils respond to the tiniest of gold best, but as soon as you went to a small picker nugget, the Monster, Equinox and Manticore took over. Then it was seeing how the bigger 6000's & 7000 did on small, medium and large gold. It's amazing that everyone talks the depth of a PI or GPZ but how many of you have actually seen with your own eyes, one of those detectors respond on big gold at 2 feet, 3 feet and even 4'? Yes that's what we did one a couple big ones. Some people had no clue and wondered out-loud, if they could even dig a hole that deep??? Realize this was just an air test, but it's still impressive. Of the 12 customers, most found a piece of gold and a couple folks doubled down. I know 3 of them just quite didn't get that lucky but they tried hard and there is not much we can do about that. The good thing is they were able to find small foil and #8 bird-shots, so we know they are doing it right. No big gold was recovered as expected, but I know there still has to be a few chunky 1/4 oz'ers out there. I know a couple years back Arky's wife was running around with her 7 while he took the class with his 6 and she dug up an 8-gram solid chunk of Au. So yes, there are still a few but nothing like it used to be. A couple of the students mentioned that they had taken Ray Mills class (in CA) and was noticing such a difference. Ray knows Geology and so most of the 1-day class is dedicated to such. They realized this class is much more detailed on the detectors and how to get the most out of them. How to tell ground from a true target and importance of proper coil control. It's funny how I can toss a small nugget in front of a student and yet they can't find if, even though they just seen where it was tossed. At the end of the class, the students can find that same nugget and then some. That's just part of the reason our class is 3 days instead of 1. I totally agree with Mr Mills class as well and so if you desire more of the geology side, you might reach out to him. The main road along the lake was actually the best I have seen it in years. But those of you who know Rye Patch area (and Northern NV) know the rocks are treacherous on tires. There were 3 flats during training, 2 flats just after class and yes one guy had 2 flats, but I took home the cake. I had a slow leaking tire and was able to limp how, getting air at each little stop all the way to Idaho. Luckily my truck as tire pressure sensors and I can see exactly which tire and how low. The drivers front got down to as low as 22 pounds between air ups but still held until the next stop at Rome Station (they have a pump that uses quarters). Anyway, when I got to Boise and took it in, they pulled the tire and showed me a tear in the face that was to big to be repaired. To order the exact same tire and size, would take 3 days. Well, I knew those stock tires were only P rated (most 1/2 tons are), so I decided to get something more designed for my off-road travels. $1250 (after military discount) and I'm sporting some new heavier tires and better tread. I should have known that from many flat tires and years past. E rated 10 ply are some of the best for getting least flats, but they are expensive and heavy, so you lose fuel mileage as well. Moral of the story. If you are running around in N Nevada roads, you better have at least LT class tires or higher. Make sure you have at least 1 spare tire and the correct equipment to change it. I left my compact air compressor in my big truck, so dumb me on that part. Here's the truck with the new tread. Yes those of you running around that weekend did in fact see a semi truck driving out there. That lady has guts. UT Chris took advantage of the Anniversary Promo and $500 off. Gerry's Detectors hand delivered it to him right out there in the field. Below - Geno from NV using a GPX-6000 and CoilTek 14x9" GoldHawk coil finds gold. Below - Dave from UT shines a smile with his 1st NV gold using a Manticore and M8 coil. Below- UT Chris found the 1st nugget of the class early Saturday morning before we even got started that day. He scored it with a GPX-6000. Below - Geoff from NV was able to find a couple with his GPX-6000, here's his 1st. Below - Chris from Idaho started the class with a GB-2 but when he seen how the Identification System on the Equinox performed so much better than most other detectors, he traded up. Good for him for trading that last day, as he still was able to find his 1st gold. Below- Nancy the trucker is tough as nails. For someone of that age to be out there roughing it and go go go, with the never quit, it finally paid off with a little help from the Staff. She knows her Manticore can find small picker nuggets. Below- Dennis from CA was an interesting guy. His brother from Idaho took my class last year and so he knew exactly what to expect. We was happy as heck once he got the golden monkey off his back. He found it with his Equinox 900 and small 6" coil. He is also the same guy who ended up with 2 flat tires. Yes he drove a new F-150 with stock P rated tires. Below - Geno gets another RP nugget. This guy is getting the hang of it really well. Below - Horny toads were just starting to come out. We only seen one snake and it was at camp but not a rattler. Why do they call them Horny Toads? Below - Dave from UT find his 2nd nugget and it's pretty nice. He used the Manticore with M8 coil again. Did you catch the phrase on his shirt? My 1st piece of gold in 2024. No, it's not worth sticking in my mouth like some of my big dogs. It took all of 45 minutes to find right near the burn barrel. I used GPX-6000 with stock 11" coil. Below - Best looking nugget of the trip was Jill and her Gold Monster 1000. Again, The group of students was so enjoyable and upbeat. Geoff/Jill brought a box of smoky quartz crystals and told everyone to take a couple for good luck. Boy it must have helped as most folks found gold. What's more important to my Staff/I than customers finding gold. Customers understanding their detectors more, learning to tell the difference of a ground noise and a target, proper coil control, knowing when to ground balance and why, what machines do best on a variety of gold and most of all.... self confidence in your detector and abilities. Thanks Eli, Lunk and Spencer for your support again. I have already received a few emails on how happy the customers were with you guys. Anyone else wanting to take advantage of the Anniversary Sale and save $150 off the Equinox 900 or $500 off the Manticore..call Gerry's Detectors, as I have a few remaining. Also remember, those who purchase their detectors from me, get an additional discount of $150 off the 3 Days Field Training. You only pay for training when you show up. Happy Hunting. Gerry in Idaho
  16. Morning Gerry, I understand as the 7000 came out with a free goldmonster, so dealers stock up, then the next month they do a 25% of 7000 sale. Now you have to sell off your stock at cost. The Manticore 30% off sale probably caught many dealers that had a inventory at the old price. Wish we had an agreement that gave us a warning about sales a few months prior so we do not overstock. I have been doing more drop shipping lately to avoid this dilemma, but this also has its downside. When is the new gold release coming out Gerry, you mentioned soon?
  17. So you just got that new Minelab and it has a three year warranty, right? Well, sort of. From Product Warranty | Minelab Metal Detectors (emphasis added) WARRANTY PERIODS GPZ 7000, GPZ 7000 accessories, GPX Series, GPX series accessories, SDC 2300, SDC 2300 accessories, CTX 3030, CTX 3030 accessories, MANTICORE, MANTICORE accessories, EQUINOX Series, EQUINOX series accessories, X-TERRA PRO, X-TERRA PRO accessories, VANQUISH Series, VANQUISH series accessories, Minelab branded bags include warranty for a period of 3 years (36 months) from the Date of Purchase. *excludes all batteries* GO-FIND Series, GOLD MONSTER 1000, GOLD MONSTER 1000 accessories and PRO-FIND Series are covered for 2 years (24 months) from the Date of Purchase. *excludes all batteries* Excalibur II, Excalibur II accessories, X-TERRA VOYAGER, PRO-GOLD and PRO-SONIC are warranted for a period of 1 year (12 months) from the Date of Purchase. *excludes all batteries* Minelab batteries and PRO-SWING 45 and some accessories are under warranty for a period of 6 months from the Date of Purchase. AFRICA: 3 year warranty period applies only to control box. 1 year replacement warranty on coils. 6 month warranty on batteries and battery chargers / AC adapters.
  18. Hi Ron, Going back to early SD thru the GPX 5000, my favorite overall size was the 14x9 elliptical. I found it was sensitive enough to small gold, covered a fair amount of ground per swing and still maintained decent depth. Over the years this coil was either the Coiltek Goldstalker or Coiltek Elite or NF Advantage or EVO. On the GPZ 7000, my favorite overall coil for prospecting is the NF 12" Z Search Round. This coil is much lighter than stock 14x13. If I think their is potential for depth, then stock or NF 17x13 Z Search. On my GPX 6000, my favorite is the NF 12x7 Exceed Mono Searchcoil. You can still find very small gold with the stock 11" Mono for sure, but you get a bit of an edge in my opinion on small gold with the NF 12x7. What most need to consider when purchasing any detector is not only looking at the unit itself, but what is also available out there for it, aftermarket coils and accessories. Minelab has always been the main detector that everyone want to build stuff for, whether that is headphones, signal enhancers, speakers, control box covers, battery systems and a huge amount of searchcoils options that many other manufactures will not ever have. Just my thoughts, Rob
  19. 6000 - 10x5 Coiltek for creeks. My daughter pulled this piece from a crevice today. Due to the crevice shape, no other coil that I own would have been able to get into the narrow opening to hear it. The Nuggetfinder 12x7 is a bit better on depth range and is very sensitive. It would come down to location and gold depth before deciding which coil would be most suitable. 7000 - 12” Z Search. Sensitive on really small gold close to the coil and punches deep for larger targets. Found this piece today in a deep crevice only 1/4” wide under about 6” of river gravel. The 6000 only heard it when the gravel was removed. The rock had to be broken to access the gold. A small piece was also pinged from another open crevice that was full of gravel. It was too deep for the 6000 with the 10x5 to hear. The stock 11” coil may have picked it up but I’ll never know for sure.
  20. 7000 - 15" CC X Coil 6000 - 11" OEM GB2 - 6" elliptical OEM Those 3 coils hardly ever leave any of these detectors now, they suit my prospecting style perfectly. I use the 6000 almost entirely for exploration and thus I prefer the OEM over the smaller Coilteks for ground coverage and depth purposes. It was a hard call between the 15" and 17" CC's, but in the end I realized the times I was glad for a less weight and more mobility were more than the times I was glad for a little more depth, especially as I started working steeper ground.
  21. Nugget Finder 12 inch Zsearch for the 7000 Coiltek 11 inch round for the 2300 Minelab stock 6 inch for the Nox 800
  22. It’s not that hard to find gold nuggets if all a person wants to do is be a hobbyist and find a few. It’s the making solid money detecting gold nuggets that has gotten extremely difficult. In a way it’s too little too late, but drying up does not mean dry, just getting there. Think silver coins. Not gone, but they sure are rarer finds than 40 years ago, even though machines are far better now. But on the other hand high PI prices have been a barrier to ownership for many; a good low price PI will find buyers, as Alfoforce has already proved. Also, rising gold prices is boosting interest in chasing even the crumbs that are left. Occasional large nugget finds keep the hope alive. Long story short there is still a market for a gold nugget PI, but as Minelab knows very well the heyday is long over. It’s just competition fighting over ever smaller pieces of pie 🙂 This is a real problem overall for all detector companies now. There is not one area of detecting that is not facing declining returns. People still beach hunt, still hunt for silver coins, still hunt for relics, still chase gold nuggets. Newbies are still enticed into the fold. But I doubt any of us here who have been at this long think things are as good as they used to be. In a way we are victims of our own success. Long story short Nokta has indeed missed the big bus with this detector that should have come years ago and now they will be fighting for a seat already taken by others. As a nugget hunter I know there is nothing they can do that will really matter except make a machine that clearly blows away a GPZ 7000 and I am not holding my breath for that. In the area of affordable PI AlgoForce is already taking sales from Nokta in Australia, and it’s only the delay in reaching the U.S. that’s giving Nokta any breathing room here. Yes, they are way too late compared to what they might have achieved just three years ago prior to the GPX 6000 release. What the market clearly lacks at this time, the machine that I personally would buy, is one that is a very good nugget detector but that also is a fully submersible water machine. Minelab only offers the SDC 2300 but it’s a joke for water detecting since it floats like a cork. Axiom, AlgoForce… not waterproof. Impulse AQ Gold dead before arrival. What I was hoping for from Nokta was a machine that would extend my nugget detecting by also being an excellent beach detector. I would sell all my other PI detectors to own that machine. I think others would also. If there is not a model that captures that desire, then not only will Nokta be late to the party, but they will have lost my interest in this detector. It’s the one thing really left to do, make a good alternative to the 7 lb Garrett ATX. Not a very high bar, but are they even going to try? The initial ad blurb is not promising. I need something better than this…..
  23. I just ordered one of these new NF coils from Rob for my GPZ 7000 and can't find any US nugget hunter reviews or results from the field. The 17" x 13" coil weighs the same as the GPZ 14" DOD coil, so it should be very effective when used with a bungee. I know they have just arrived in the US and JP mentioned on FB he has used them with good results...been very quiet. I heard Lunk is using one in AZ now.🤔 Anybody got any info??? Bill
  24. I wonder if there is any benefit to be had by concentrating flux density via specifically placing ferrous components wound along with a coil (like a steel guitar string for instance). Or ferrite components maybe? Or if that would affect both the ground balance as well as the inductance of the coil such that no (or negative) benefits are gained?
  25. There’s an old saying that goes something like this - “never walk away from gold to look for gold.” We knew that the detectable yellow in this spot was starting to hide itself away from us and the only thing that we could do was to work harder and try to change our approach. Joe and I decided to mix things up a bit during yesterdays playtime. We agreed that instead of both of us using the one type of detector, we would take one zed and one six. Joe had the 7000 with the 12” Nuggetfinder and I took the 6000 with the 12x7 attached. We also decided to wear waders so that we could focus on detecting the deeper pools and also protect ourselves from leeches. It was a beautiful, cool day which kept us comfortable while we were wrapped up in plastic. Joe still had problems with the zed giving false signals in the deeper water but he eventually solved the problem. We had thought that the issue was due to the pressure of the water compressing the coil and making it touch sensitive but we were wrong with our assumption. The actual cause was the slight flexing of the shaft due to the forces involved in keeping the coil submerged. Joe found that if he placed his left hand quite low on detector shaft and guided the machine with his hand, the problem disappeared. Repositioning the guide arm much lower than usual could be worth trying if we continue to detect in water. We started working our way up the gully after finding a couple of small pieces of flood gold on the bank of the creek. We had to stand in water to detect this area which made it obvious as to why they were still there. I made it to a pool that had produced some nice gold on previous trips and decided to detect it really well. Having waders on allowed us to take our time to cover areas well without having to worry about getting wet. The six ran reasonably well most of the time but wasn’t as stable as the seven. The mineralised black or red soil in any wet area would upset it but it generally ran well. The Nuggetfinder coil did its job and picked up a target in about knee deep water. Joe and I had to fluff around for about 5 minutes before a nice little piece ended up in the scoop. We moved up to another patch that had produced a lot of small pieces a few weeks ago. On our last trip we were not able to go over this area as it was still submerged. Joe picked up a good signal where rock and gravel had moved with the recent rain. It was an unusual signal that had a distinct wobble to it. As usual, we always try to analyse what we are hearing and have a guess at what the result would be. We decided that it would be gold and that it would have an unusual shape. A long, C shaped piece quickly ended up in Joe’s hand. A few more small pieces were recovered from this area after moving some rocks and gravel. We continued to detect our way upstream without finding anything but rubbish until Joe ended up with a beautiful low/high signal in a long pool of water. He called me over to have a listen and as we often do, both machines were put over the target before the surface was disturbed. Both detectors picked up the signal well with the seven giving a better response. As it was in water, the dig was a bit slow but after a few minutes the best piece of the day was in the rattle jar. A few more small nuggets were found upstream before we decided that the day was done. It was another good, productive trip out in the bush. We still have at least one more day to finish this area before moving on to a new spot.
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