GPZ 8000 Rumors

[flakmagnet]

Yup...

[geof_junk]

I find that improvements in detector are very minor as far as depth go on any thing over a gram. That why I wait for the second generation of technology. If this is the second generation of of the Z then the weight and price would be a factor as most of my nuggets were easily found  detected in virgin ground. As the gold and the number of professional prospectors left have got a lot less, the price and ergonistics should improve in favour of the hobby prospector.    However if I see a massive improvement then reason will prevail. ?

[afreakofnature]

I’m curious how many people are willing to spend $8000 again? Unless minelab is offering some type of trade-in program LOL

[Lunk]

Again...

Please, nobody say they would be willing to pay as much as the GPZ 7000!!!?
I remember when the GPZ 7000 was but a rumor, one or more posted that they would be willing to pay $10,000 U.S. for the next Minelab flagship gold detector if it had the features they wanted. And then the GPZ 7000 was released at the exact same phenomenal price! Coincidence perhaps, but I think not. 

[Steve Herschbach]

I’m not expecting much magic. The GPZ 7000 was the leap to Zero Voltage Technology (ZVT), just like the SD 2000 was the leap to Multi Period Sensing (MPS). For many years after the SD 2000 we saw refining of the basic technology but maximum depth on large gold did not change much. ZVT basically filled in the gaps by specifically targeting types of gold that all the previous MPS detectors were weak on. No doubt whatever comes next will refine ZVT, but the major gains seen by the switch in basic technology are likely already baked in. For those of you who have been around the block a few times you know what I am talking about. How much difference did you see going from the GP 3000 to the GP 3500? Or going from the GPX 4000 to the GPX 4500? Improvements for sure, but incremental, not revolutionary. But at every single turn the price went up with each new model.

I’m not trying to be a bummer but I got this sense with the GPZ 7000 I was cleaning up leftovers and now after a few years of that even the leftovers are getting sparse. The real problem we face now is not the technology but gold geology itself. There are sound reasons why in desert placers and washed placer areas going deeper often does not reveal much more gold. 

I guess long story short is the gold is depleting out and the gains to be had with new detectors is depleting along with it. That being the case putting out astronomical sums of money for a new detector is an equation that does not add up any more for a lot of us. That is why for the last few years I have been advocating for lighter weight, less expensive detectors. My challenge at the link may have set a tough bar for both price and weight but I believe it is setting tough goals that makes us strive. It’s not always about hitting the goal but just trying as hard as you can to get there, and personally I’m done with machines that are too expensive or too heavy.

[Steve Herschbach]

I'll tell you manufacturers what I really need and am will to pay top dollar for. A detector as powerful as a GPZ but with 100% accurate ferrous discrimination. Even the best VLF detectors pick up too much flat steel and broken square nails in old mining areas. If there is a payday waiting for me it is in areas full of ferrous junk where a VLF does not go deep enough but a GPZ or PI will kill me digging junk. Forget more depth and give me genuine, accurate ferrous discrimination in a detector more powerful than the best VLF. For that, I will dig very deep into my wallet, and that's a promise.

[mn90403]

Steve,

You got it.  I woke up in the middle of the night thinking a similar thought. 

Discrimination with a PI.  I still might dig everything but I could see the ground and know there was something 'out of the ordinary' waiting for me to dig it.  I use the Nox this way and I'd do the same with a PI.

Mitchel

[Lanny]

1 hour ago, Steve Herschbach said:

I'll tell you manufacturers what I really need and am will to pay top dollar for. A detector as powerful as a GPZ but with 100% accurate ferrous discrimination. Even the best VLF detectors pick up too much flat steel and broken square nails in old mining areas. If there is a payday waiting for me it is in areas full of ferrous junk where a VLF does not go deep enough but a GPZ or PI will kill me digging junk. Forget more depth and give me genuine, accurate ferrous discrimination in a detector more powerful than the best VLF. For that, I will dig very deep into my wallet, and that's a promise.

I would love the same, nicely stated.

 

All the best,

Lanny

[Lunk]

5 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

For that, I will dig very deep into my wallet, and that's a promise.

Thanks Steve for cleverly circumventing a specific dollar amount. ?