Fisher Impulse, July 2021, $2800 - $3500

[nickelNdimed]

I just want to hear more about their new single frequency and multi frequency.  

I heard wireless.

Weatherproof, waterproof?

Good balance?

Coil selection or compatibility with existing coils?

I may need to sell off some detectors!

[ALEXANDRE TARTAR]

23 hours ago, Ridge Runner said:

No company is in business for their health and all have to make a profit.

 If I make a PI detector do I want to sell one are do I want to sell hundreds. I can’t make a profit even selling one out of a hundred then why bother with a PI .

 If it’s some great detectors out there for under 1500. for land and beach then anything above that in price will be a hard sell.

 You can always find some willing to go for the high dollar ones but again it’s volume of sales that pays the bills.

 Chuck 

There isn't just one company profile, let's look at the jewelry world.

You can find companies that make a lot of low cost gold rings, but you can also find companies that make high quality and expensive jewelry in weak quantity.

But for all that, the turnover is higher at CARTIER in Paris than in the WALMART jewelry stores.

Here Cartier USD 45 000

 

[Luis]

will the definitive model arrive in Europe?

[Tony]

10 hours ago, ALEXANDRE TARTAR said:

There isn't just one company profile, let's look at the jewelry world.

You can find companies that make a lot of low cost gold rings, but you can also find companies that make high quality and expensive jewelry in weak quantity.

But for all that, the turnover is higher at CARTIER in Paris than in the WALMART jewelry stores.

Here Cartier USD 45 000

 

And there’s probably $40,000 profit on that ring......?

[palzynski]

19 hours ago, Luis said:

will the definitive model arrive in Europe?

Sorry this ring definitive model is a little too expensive for me at 45000$... Unless CARTIER offers special discounts for detectorprospector forum members... ?

[dewcon4414]

I think social media has changed things.   Used to be we found out about machines just before they came out.... now 2 or 3 years it seems we get to talking.   Once the cat is out of the bag we EXPECT the companies to provide EVERYTHING about the machine .... that is still in the works.   This allows the competitors to plan ahead it seems.   ML did the Nox ... volume, because i cant believe they made a huge profit, but EVERYTHING stopped selling.  Must have been like crickets in the shops..... and two major companies went out of business.  Cant say expensive machines done sell..... especially after they prove themselves.... lot at the CTX.  Wonder how many bought a CTX once the Nox came out?   So now ... we have a certain expectation of cost and performance.  My question is..... was the limited way under priced.... or what are we getting for this inflation?   Not that the machine may not be worth it when you compare it to the ML gold machines rather than VLFs.  If it out performs Erics machines.... its pretty special.   Its working great for some of you guys.... but others its been in the shop more than on the beach... those bugs needs to be fixed. 

[Carolina]

1 hour ago, dewcon4414 said:

I think social media has changed things.   Used to be we found out about machines just before they came out.... now 2 or 3 years it seems we get to talking.   Once the cat is out of the bag we EXPECT the companies to provide EVERYTHING about the machine .... that is still in the works.   This allows the competitors to plan ahead it seems.   ML did the Nox ... volume, because i cant believe they made a huge profit, but EVERYTHING stopped selling.  Must have been like crickets in the shops..... and two major companies went out of business.  Cant say expensive machines done sell..... especially after they prove themselves.... lot at the CTX.  Wonder how many bought a CTX once the Nox came out?   So now ... we have a certain expectation of cost and performance.  My question is..... was the limited way under priced.... or what are we getting for this inflation?   Not that the machine may not be worth it when you compare it to the ML gold machines rather than VLFs.  If it out performs Erics machines.... its pretty special.   Its working great for some of you guys.... but others its been in the shop more than on the beach... those bugs needs to be fixed. 

One could make the argument, which machine is he talking about when he says, “ but others it’s been in the shop more than on the beach “, the Nox or the AQ ? I would guess hundreds maybe thousands of Nox’s have drowned world wide once submerged in water and a fair share of the CTX’s also but not as many for sure as the Nox. Our friend Max drowned four in less than two years. 600’s & 800’s. I own both the AQ & the Nox 800. After years on the market, the Nox still has problems. Both have their place I think but neither are in the same category. One suits a wide range of detectorist, weekender as well as seasoned professionals. Another is for seasoned professionals only I think. One also stands out as the deepest by far. I’ve always read and believe the detector is no better than the hand that swings it. 
          Is the AQ deeper than Eric Foster machine’s ? I can not answer as I don’t own a Foster PI. I did own a dual field at one time and yes the AQ is the deeper of the two. I own other PI detectors as well that the AQ is the deepest. Eric Foster will always be known as the father of pulse induction and holding over forty patents over time, his legacy will for ever, hold the test of time I think. There are many great engineers out there, but none will be able to compare to his legacy. To have the name and machine that all others are compared to, is a testament to his name and machines.                                                                                  
          With all that being said, in my humble opinion, if you are serious about salt or fresh water detecting, you would do well to own the AQ.                                                                                                                              
         As far as Rick Kempf and Fisher’s response to my issues, no matter how trivial, in forty + years detecting, none have had a better response time for me.
   

 

[Rick K - First Member]

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[Tony]

I know plenty who have had their Equinox / CTX leak when subject to prolonged submersion (control box maybe one foot under).....what scares me is the Nox and AQ are both rated to 10 feet ?