Go Terrain Test And Cool Relic

[F350Platinum]

18 minutes ago, CPT_GhostLight said:

Thanks for your review, F350! I kind of figured it would be similar to Tect O Trak but with auto finds and TID logging. I may still try it out just to see what's what, but I rarely use Tect O Trak anymore either. However I do like the idea of using the Push mode to manually record a target TID and location on the fly with the remote on a large relic site. 😏

When I want to track and record targets I use OnX Hunt. I don't know if Go Terrain will stop either, but if you drew a detection zone it will at least vibrate your phone to turn it off.

OnX Hunt allows you to edit your track later when you forget. 🤣 I can record photos of my finds and the IDs as well.

I find OnX Hunt useful to keep track of large places, but there's something to be said about the private server storage in Go Terrain, I think OnX stores the tracks on my phone. If it recorded the finds when my phone was closed I might switch to it. 🤔

[iron_buzz]

3 hours ago, ColonelDan said:

Great review Bob.  Thank you.  I too thought it would be impossible for me to carry my detector in my left, the scoop in my right and my phone in my "third hand". 😅

I see the value for me being registering my finds with time, date, lat/long, depth, TID  and photo.  Having said that I'm still more than a novice with this new tool right now.  More later.....

I'd like it if they would add the name of the program being used to the information it passes.

[iron_buzz]

39 minutes ago, F350Platinum said:

Good choice, either sensitivity is too high or you're in a trashy area or both. 🙂 The farm in front of my house isn't too bad and I'm running sensitivity at 90.

The old farm field home sites that I detect are always extremely trashy.  I'm not going to adjust my sensitivity just so the app will work.  Maybe the app itself needs a sensitivity setting that is independent from the detector setting.

[F350Platinum]

43 minutes ago, iron_buzz said:

The old farm field home sites that I detect are always extremely trashy.  I'm not going to adjust my sensitivity just so the app will work.  Maybe the app itself needs a sensitivity setting that is independent from the detector setting.

Maybe, but if your sensitivity is too high, you're getting iron wrap and digging way too many false IDs. 🤔 Try 87-90, if your reactivity is right you won't lose any depth.

[iron_buzz]

1 hour ago, F350Platinum said:

Maybe, but if your sensitivity is too high, you're getting iron wrap and digging way too many false IDs. 🤔 Try 87-90, if your reactivity is right you won't lose any depth.

I'm not a novice at this, but thanks for the advice.  I was running what I felt was necessary for the site.

[iron_buzz]

On 11/19/2023 at 5:21 PM, F350Platinum said:

If you read my posts you'll know I badly dislocated my left shoulder last Sunday. Then XP released the Go Terrain app, so I had to try it out. I held off until today, and just took a minimum of gear with me, I dug my targets with @kac's excellent Devil's Tongue digger.

The ground in the field in front of my house is littered with corn trash, at least they turbo tilled it.

This is from the app, I set a detection zone, and started tracking. It was late in the afternoon so I only covered about a third of my zone, but I tried everything. Yep, right out in front of my house. 😁

First off I'll say the app is cool, and I sure don't mind paying 10 bucks a year for it. Instructions are pretty easy to follow, and it does what it says it will do.

It records your finds after a selectable number of swings,  I picked 8 in 10 seconds like the excellent instruction video.

I was easily able to pair the coil, just search for it and swing the coil over a find until it registers. Everything worked very well.

It recorded my path ok, GPS accuracy isn't all that good due to lots of military aircraft testing in my area, so it kinda fluctuated, creating the squiggly path. At first I didn't have path enabled, and if you forget it enabling it later will turn it on. I even tried going away from a target without digging it and went back, found it fairly easily and dug it. I also went out of the zone many times and it vibrated the phone as expected. 👍

I paused and restarted the app many times in order to dig my targets, you have to remember to start it again, and if you don't pause it, it will keep registering the target especially if it has varying IDs, which lots of targets will. I had to pinpoint and use the MI-6 a lot as all I had was a small digger.

Iron targets are recorded as black dots unless there is some falsing, a few times I re-registered targets because I knew the reading was false, if you have big iron on the edge of the 13" coil that is what happens until you are over it. "Null" targets - those that come up with -- on the display - will not be recorded. With my program this means anything below 1.

These are my finds, mostly stuff I would throw out. The lamp wick raiser was about 8" deep, tough to get with a hand digger in this dry soil, but the ID was accurate.

Ok, now my thoughts about this app:

I have a Samsung Z-Flip 4 that I can fold and keep in my pocket with a battery that keeps it going all day. However, that is a problem. Unless the phone is on and the app is running in the foreground, it will not record targets. 😵 It will track but that's it. Folding the Z-Flip shuts the screen off.

The screen doesn't "follow" or move when you have it zoomed in, so you have to keep hitting the location icon to see your present position. This could be fixed by making your "sprite" move the screen. 🤔

The detectorist in the video made it look very cool using the app, in reality not so much. You'd have to have your phone running live in a pouch and whip it out when you want to see anything, or you'd have to have a chest harmonica rig to see it all the time 😏 I'm not one of the Blues Brothers, so this ain't gonna do it for me. 😎 To get the vibrations when you leave your detection zone you'd have to hold it, putting it in your pocket or a pouch renders that feature moot.

The app is very cool, but not well conceived for us dirt pirates, maybe it's cool in Europe to walk around all day with a cell in your hand, but not with a detector in one hand and shovel over your other shoulder. I still haven't found a shovel clip that stays together for even one day. When you close out your hunt it takes a long time to upload it to the server, at least with my measly 3 bars of 4G.

I might use it now and again for fun, but really OnX Hunt still does it for me. It runs and tracks all the time.

At least I got my thank you for coming prize after I put the phone away, this really interesting Civil War relic that I cannot identify 🤣

I looked for it on the Internet and did find a similar relic found in Culpeper VA, about 60 miles away:

I don't think the seller knew what it was either. 😏 If any of y'all know please help. 🙂

Your thoughts are very much the same as mine after trying it a couple of times now.  Today I tried it in "Push" mode because of the sensitivity problem we discussed previously.  But I think after you hit the middle button that you have to get your phone out to accept it, and you certainly do if you want to enter any information, take videos, etc.  I may still use it for tracking, on occasion, but basically I'm not impressed with the reality of it.

[F350Platinum]

13 minutes ago, iron_buzz said:

Your thoughts are very much the same as mine after trying it a couple of times now. 

I see you're as experienced with this detector as I am. 🙂 bought mine in March 2022. 👍 Since then I've used it for everything but prospecting.

I wasn't trying to be insulting, and if I was I apologize. Your profile doesn't have any info, and you didn't do a Meet and Greet so I had no idea what your experience is. Nice discussion about disc vs. notch BTW.

Push would be much better to use for sure, and it would be nice to know what program (and coil) you used for the duration. I use the 13" for most of my field hunting, and find it adds high tones to iron if detected on the edge of the coil, so every time I hit an object that did it I made sure to center the target to get the most accurate "dot".

However, one of the things I do when scouting permissions is to look for concentrations of iron, and I think Auto would be good for that - if I had a different cellphone. 😀 Close the Z-Flip and it doesn't record even if the app is live. Doesn't fit in my deep pocket open with a backup battery!

Have you looked at OnX Hunt or OnX Backcountry? 

 

[iron_buzz]

3 minutes ago, F350Platinum said:

I see you're as experienced with this detector as I am. 🙂 bought mine in March 2022. 👍 Since then I've used it for everything but prospecting.

I wasn't trying to be insulting, and if I was I apologize. Your profile doesn't have any info, and you didn't do a Meet and Greet so I had no idea what your experience is. Nice discussion about disc vs. notch BTW.

Push would be much better to use for sure, and it would be nice to know what program (and coil) you used for the duration. I use the 13" for most of my field hunting, and find it adds high tones to iron if detected on the edge of the coil, so every time I hit an object that did it I made sure to center the target to get the most accurate "dot".

However, one of the things I do when scouting permissions is to look for concentrations of iron, and I think Auto would be good for that - if I had a different cellphone. 😀 Close the Z-Flip and it doesn't record even if the app is live. Doesn't fit in my deep pocket open with a backup battery!

Have you looked at OnX Hunt or OnX Backcountry? 

 

Yeah, sorry if I was too sensitive in that post about sensitivity. I've been detecting for 7 seasons now, mostly with an XP Deus.  I've owned several others (Garrett Ace 300, Fisher F75, AT Pro, Equinox 800 and most recently, Manticore.  Sold them all) but I speak Deus, so Deus it is. 

Funny you should ask... I just got OnX hunt a couple of days ago.  My main detecting partner has had it for a while now.  By the way, it took a bit of work, but I finally got one of their support people to pass along to developers the need to be able to link from a landowner's address to Google Maps.... or at least to be able to copy the address to the clipboard.

I had the 11", 9", and HF Elliptical for my Deus I but found that the 9" was the Cinderella coil for me, so that's all I have for the Deus II.  I am heading to England for my first ever detecting trip next fall though so I may get the 11" for better coverage and a backup.

[iron_buzz]

34 minutes ago, F350Platinum said:

Your profile doesn't have any info,

 

I just remedied that.

[F350Platinum]

26 minutes ago, iron_buzz said:

I had the 11", 9", and HF Elliptical for my Deus I but found that the 9" was the Cinderella coil for me, so that's all I have for the Deus II.  I am heading to England for my first ever detecting trip next fall though so I may get the 11" for better coverage and a backup.

Best of luck in the UK! 🍀 That will be the adventure of a lifetime. 🙂

I've got all the D2 coils, I primarily use the 13" because most of my permissions are big, and it's a killer on the beach. I initially bought the D2 with the 9", and only bought the 11" because I couldn't wait for the 13".

I know, more money than sense 🤪 but I now find uses for them all.

We have a similar string of past detectors, I started with an Ace 400, moved up to the Equinox 600 that I enjoyed immensely, but now I'm completely hooked on the Deus 2. I've followed the discussions on all the other current machines, and for me nothing else will do, except maybe a Deus 3 and the MI-7 with iron ID. 😏 Well, maybe a 10x5 elliptical for the D2... 🤣