jrbeatty Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 1 hour ago, mn90403 said: JR, I'm wondering the land owners. How did they come by it? Years ago I was told that Florida cattle ranchers and others could have moved to Australia to set up operations for cow/calf and sheep. If they did so they would have been guaranteed land. Did this land include the minerals? Was any of that land or any of the land you prospect now part of that plan? It would be a big boon to the rancher. They would or could still be interested as the farmers in Britain are willing to split with relic hunters. Ok. The grazing and cropping properties in Victoria are mainly freehold and in many cases have been handed down through the generations since original settlement. How did they come by it? To grossly oversimplify the process, basically they selected it and were then granted title providing they fenced it. However, freehold title does not entitle the owner to the mineral wealth beneath or on the ground and, consequently, many parts of the state are under different mining exploration licenses. The arrangements made between freehold owners and small prospectors and detector operators are largely unaffected by these bigger EL's and are organised by mutual agreement. Under Victorian state regulations, the holder of a Miners Right is entitled to prospect on government land and keep what they find. This was a right earned long ago in the wake of the battle of the Eureka Stockade at Ballarat in 1854. This "Right" has since been eroded considerably by "green" pressure and, increasingly, much government land is now closed to detecting, and indeed, large scale mining. To sum up: The freehold land owner does not own the gold, and has the authority to deny entry to detector operators (but not EL holders) All our freehold detecting is carried out with permission, and usually under a deal. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Wilson Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 mn, in reply to your question, I found my first color at Wedderburn in central Victoria in 1979. It weight about 3 grams and was detected with a Whites Coinmaster under a tree at a spot called 'shicer' gully. I guess the guy who inspired me the most, and found a staggering amount of gold in Victoria, West Australia and Queensland was John Hider Smith. I was fortunate to work with John for some time, and was amazed at his ability. I currently work on the odd project with James Beatty, when he is not busy farming, and enjoy his company immensely. (he is pretty handy with a detector as well) 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 jrbeatty, thank you for reposting all those great photos and the stories behind them. Much appreciated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mn90403 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 19 hours ago, Reg Wilson said: mn, in reply to your question, I found my first color at Wedderburn in central Victoria in 1979. It weight about 3 grams and was detected with a Whites Coinmaster under a tree at a spot called 'shicer' gully. I guess the guy who inspired me the most, and found a staggering amount of gold in Victoria, West Australia and Queensland was John Hider Smith. I was fortunate to work with John for some time, and was amazed at his ability. I currently work on the odd project with James Beatty, when he is not busy farming, and enjoy his company immensely. (he is pretty handy with a detector as well) Reg, Thank you for the response. There just seem to be things that trigger a direction in our lives. I got a Coinmaster in 86 and used it in the desert a couple of times but found no gold (some relics and trash) ... how different things might be today if I had found some. I used it on the beach but stopped and I didn't get my first gold detector until 2010. How different things could be with a proper mentor. There is still time as Norvic says! Mitchel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mop Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 On 10/8/2017 at 12:50 PM, jrbeatty said: Thanks Mop. Interesting how later technology only finds small bits on the areas worked with the proto's. The biggies are gone. Seems that way, but I live in hope that a nice one will come my way eventually 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrbeatty Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Mop said: Seems that way, but I live in hope that a nice one will come my way eventually Hey Mop! I only meant the biggies are gone from the areas worked by the prototype SD's. Make no mistake, the damn things are still hiding elsewhere!!! 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrbeatty Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 On with the show. Dunolly gold: 14 ozs north of Dunolly 39ozs Berlin Rush Detail of above: Reg writes: "The late "Kiwi" Russel Barker (on right) detected a 250 oz nugget at Clovers gully, Dunolly. John, Ian, and I worked with him for a time in 89-90. The nugget had been heard by John but he had dismissed it as a junk signal" 13 0z Wedderburn west: On a lighter note: The late Jimmy Stewart about to be tipped off the coil sled by manic biker John Hider Smith. WA goldfields late 90's: Reg Wilson. Rain in the west, late 90's He still uses that old green Transit van for his prospecting vehicle : This one appeared in "Gold Gem and Treasure" magazine many years ago, in a story Reg wrote on Indian gold mining: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrbeatty Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 1 hour ago, kiwijw said: Not where I detect they aren't. Aint through lack of trying. I seem to be able to find the tiny ones though JW Hey Kiwi! They all add up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giddiup Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 An inspiring thread guys. Theres mention of the odd junk target but how much junk did you pick up then or was it all big ass nuggets!!!:) Everyones still finding plenty of trash, i am curious to know if you found your fair share or if the machines only picked up the bigger targets…Folk say if you find a plenty of trash then at least you know the area hasn't been flogged….i'm not so sure now:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrbeatty Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 I'll bet those old boys left one for you somewhere KJW. With the hours you put in swinging, it's only a matter of time! Edit: "Opss....I should say.....a one ounce "colour" " Cheeky bugger! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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