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I thought I would take a few minutes here and talk about the Signum MFT detector.
My unit seems to have (looking at screen at turn on) the original version software.
I have used the detector with the stock supplied coil,,it measures approx 11.5" in diameter.
This coil is deep,,7khz freq, but due to size it can be cumbersome to use in places.
Using the stock coil,,,bumping it will cause some falsing at times,,,running gain at 6,, sensitivity at 11.
It in my soil is for a metered Vlf detector,,just maybe be my deepest on a clad US dime.
The ground balance while using this detector,,very critical to get good to serious depth.
Not hard to ground balance as long as you have some clean ground-- this can be a pain btw sometimes.
It seems in my ground here,,,using turbo is really not effective,,,like a lot of other units with boost.
But even saying this,,this detector features an economy power transmit setting as well as economy off setting.
This economy off setting here combined with a sensitivy level of around 11,, gets down in the ground.
This detector IMO,,sweep speed wise not overly forgiving,,at least with stock coil.
This detector does possess a feature where the recovery speed can be increased,,called mm mode.
Since I have been putting in most of my time with the Nokta Impact detector,,I do need more time with this detector.
I happened to see a gent who was selling a smaller the stock coil (6x10") Mars coil,,so I bought.
In case some folks here don't know,,,the coils used on AKA Sorex detector are interchangeable here with Signum detectors.
Well today I took this new to me coil to a site,,to try.
I was very impressed with this coil,,,as long as I was in mm mode.
It seemed if I was running in normal mode,,,the detector couldn't keep up with the ground,,and even some of the iron and targets.
I need to operate some more,,,I could be jumping the gun here by criticizing it.
This detector and coil combo(my new to me coil) feels real nice,,balance and weight.
This coil being 14khz,,,it nails higher conductors big time,,,some coins rather deep using this coil,,a user might think they were only a couple inches deep.
The audio this detector possesses,,,is second to none in my book.
One detector with such great audio,,,a user will not be overwhelmed even when running all metal in a super duper bad site with iron and nails.
I did even today try and dig a few lower conductors,,that had a straight line on the holograph display. Even some of the lower conductors that had just a tinge of a loop in their graph reading. And sure enough these kinds of targets were low conductors but not worthy at all,,,edges irregular, inconsistent thickness, etc.
I certainly would recommend the detector to a person,,,but with a 10" coil or smaller.
Not a hard detector to operate either,,,sets up a lot like a White's V3i as far as the all metal side,,and the disc side of the houses (sensitivity wise).
The pinpoint on this detector,,and I have owned a Sorex as well,,,both have the hottest pinpoint functions I have ever seen. Luckily they are adjustable so it can be turned down sensitivity wise.
Similar ID screens are used I think with Xp Deus (secret screen, version 3.2) and White's Vx3 and V3i models.
The Signum will give high tone on iron false,,,a user if they will watch screen will start to see a pattern to recognize iron falses.
The tones are adjustable,,I haven't adjusted mine.
This detector also has a way to check for bottlecaps,,has helped me.
I even used this same feature today to weed out a bigger piece of cast iron.
If a person here gets a chance to be around either a Sorex or one of the Signum models,,at least try to listen to the audio they possess.
I am posting this info here as strictly a user of detector.
By Steve Herschbach
First Texas owns Bounty Hunter, Fisher, and Teknetics. You see a lot of models drift from one line to the other.
Teknetics is releasing three "new" models at low prices. Capitalizing on the current "made in America" trend, they are calling these the AmeriTEKs. Three models, the Minuteman at $249, Liberator at $349, and Patriot at $449. Internet prices will probably be 15% lower.
I am guessing the Minuteman is a repackaged EuroTEK Pro and the Liberator a repackaged Land Ranger Pro but do keep in mind I am just making educated guesses. The one that more got my interest is the Teknetics Patriot model at $449.
13 kHz Frequency Shift All Metals Auto-Tune Mode 0-99 Target-ID Target-ID Confidence Bar Ground Balance to Salt Push-button Static Pinpoint Speed Selection Non-Volatile Memory (Saved Settings) This appears to me to be a repackaged and much lower price Fisher F70 Check out the F70 specs and here are both screens side-by-side:
Same screen, right down to the Fisher "wings"! The thing is the F70 currently goes for $649 and the Patriot will be heading out the door at under $400 - $381 if I got my discount right but they may set a MAP of $399 playing the price point game. $250 less than the F70 at the moment. And the Patriot looks to be sporting the more expensive 11" x 7" DD coil instead of the 10" elliptical concentric that comes stock on the F70.
The F70 is a very powerful and underrated detector, overlooked by many because of the top-of-the-line F75. Dave Johnson is the metal detector engineer guru behind many of the great metal detectors we use. He frequents some forums under the name of woof! and here is what he has to say in a post on TreasureNet:
"The F70 was the product of a mission-- to come up with a less expensive adaptation of the F75, while incorporating things we had learned meanwhile. Without "dumbing it down". Because the F70 was advertised for a lot less money than the F75, marketing dept. didn't quite dare to say how good the damn thing really was. Some of the secret sauce we put into the F70 eventually made its way into later revisions of the F75 group of machines, as well as into the Teknetics "Fratbros" series and most other new beeps introduced after the F70.
As the top of the Fisher lineup, the F75 including its revisions got all the attention. That's how the F70 became a "sleeper". Guys like Mudpuppy will never have to wonder if they should have gotten an F75 instead.
This is the same sort of explanation I just posted in "another forum" about the approx. $200 category. If you get a Eurotek Pro, you never have to wonder if you should have gotten something else. Get anything else, and you'll wonder if you should have gotten a Eurotek Pro instead. F70 owners never have to wonder if they should "upgrade" to an F75.
Now, it is possible they removed a feature or two from the Patriot in order to justify the price differential, but with recent First Texas price decreases I would not be shocked if the F70 also comes down in price due to the just announced price decrease in the F75. Makes no sense to have the F75 at $599 and F70 at $649, reversing the order of the pricing just a short time ago. Regardless, keep an eye on the Patriot and the F70 to see what develops, but at $399 a Patriot is a machine that could even tempt me for a grab and go park machine.
Teknetics was purchased for the premium name and its Fisher equivalent products have usually been more expensive for what are basically the same detectors. Gold Bug Pro versus G2 for instance or F19 versus G2+. These three models however are priced aggressively below their other FT counterpart models and appear to mark a shift in the Teknetics line to a lower price level.
All this shifting of higher priced First Texas products into lower price points does smell an awful lot to me like new high end product coming soon. People do tend to equate price with value and First Texas is currently abandoning the higher price point area occupied by what are typically referred to as flagship detectors. I can't believe they will just cede that market segment to the competition so I hope we see some new high end product very soon. Perhaps the rumored CZX will finally appear!
By Steve Herschbach
The Fisher CZ-21 is one of the best VLF underwater detectors on the market and can double as a good dry land detector. Waterproof to 250 feet, it is the real deal when it comes to diving and built like a tank. It is the only serious competition to the Minelab Excalibur with the main difference between the two the basic physical design and control layout. Performance is too close to call. I personally prefer the CZ-21 due to the east hip mount capability and more distinct tone scheme and true all metal mode. You can get it in 8" or 10.5" coil sizes but the coil is hardwired so be sure and get what you want. Big coils are better on the beach but if you are also thinking parks and such on dry land the 8" is the better option.
There is a huge price increase coming that will put what you see it currently for sale at as not too far over the new dealer cost! I literally almost just bought one myself just now but veered away before hitting the buy button because - well, you know it - I have too many detectors already anyway. Still, it is almost an investment at this price as used prices are going to take a big jump also.
Anyway, just a head's up for forum members in case anyone was on the fence about the CZ-21.
By Steve Herschbach
Buried in the announcement of the new Minelab Gold Monster 1000 is the fact that it effectively replaces the Eureka Gold. From http://www.minelab.com/usa/customer-care/product-notices?article=305152
09 Feb 2017 Discontinued Product – Eureka Gold
After almost 20 years of gold success, the Eureka Gold detector has been discontinued. As with any product discontinuation, Minelab will continue to provide technical support service.
You can find archived product information on the Eureka Gold here.
If you have any questions, please contact your regional Minelab office.
And from http://www.minelab.com/usa/customer-care/product-notices/discontinued-products
As new technology is developed and improves upon the performance of our current product range, Minelab discontinues our older product models. These products are listed on this page alphabetical order for your reference.
We aim to service and support all of our older products for as long as possible. All products are supported for a period of at least 7 years after they are discontinued. Unfortunately with some of these older detectors it becomes impossible to source the parts required for service work and so the detectors eventually become uneconomical to repair.