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I think Doc pretty much nails it here. Minelab will have to hire experienced Minelab USERS to man their customer support and help line for direct sales, and they may find that expensive. Experienced dealers who can provide face-face instruction will never be replaced. Whether it's teaching folks to prospect for gold, or how to set up your Manticore for relic hunting, hands on instruction and classes are the next step for dealers. There is money to be made instructing groups of detectorists, and offering group discounts on detectors and equipment packages. New times, new challenges, new solutions.

White's made a lot of mistakes, not releasing the MX9 ranks pretty low.

PRESS RELEASE For Immediate Release Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2024 From: Metal Detectors 4 Veterans, Inc. http://www.MD4V.org Contact: Terry Soloman, President (914) 589-3985 TerrySoloman@aol.com Subject: Garrett Metal Detectors Donates to White Plains Veterans Charity Garrett Donates Industry Leading Pro-Pointer AT Pinpointers to MD4V.org White Plains, NY – Garrett Metal Detectors, America’s leader in metal detecting technology, has donated top-of-the-line Garrett Pro-Pointer AT handheld pin-pointing metal detectors https://garrett.com/sport/pro-pointer/pro-pointer-at to Metal Detectors 4 Veterans (MD4V.org), a Westchester County, NY, non-profit charity that provides metal detecting therapy to veterans suffering from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and related conditions. The donated pinpointers will be gifted to financially insecure veterans throughout the Country and used in demonstrations for veterans in the Lower Hudson Valley. Terry Soloman, President of MD4V.org said, “I want to thank Garrett Metal Detectors and Director Richardson, for these unmatched devices as well as Garrett’s firm support of our veterans in need. These Garrett Pro-Pointer AT pinpointers make finding targets much easier and pleasurable for both the beginner - and the experienced metal detectorist. They can be used anywhere, on land or submerged in water, even on a saltwater beach. The Garrett Pro-Pointer AT even has a built-in flashlight.” Metal detecting therapy is an effective tool that can help combat veterans deal with the symptoms of service related Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) “Metal detecting is beneficial as it gives the veteran a way to reduce their stress by distracting them from dark or negative thoughts and feelings,” says Soloman. “It encourages the veteran to engage in a calming, meditative activity that gets them outdoors, reduces stress, and improves mood.” About Metal Detectors 4 Veterans, Inc. MD4V.org started in 2023, as a personal mission for Terry Soloman, a US Army veteran and member of American Legion Post 1038 in Valhalla, New York. Using his own funds and donations from a YouTube channel he created, Terry sent 49-finacially insecure veterans new metal detectors and equipment last year. Incorporating in 2024, and achieving 501c3 charitable status, the organization hopes to reach many more veterans this year. Visit http://www.MD4V.org About Garrett Metal Detectors Garrett Metal Detectors was founded in Garland, Texas, in 1964. Now in their 60th year as America’s leading metal detection technology company, Garrett continues to set the pace in security and sport metal detecting. Visit https://garrett.com/ ###

Based purely on my experience with the Manticore, even if I own it since April 11th only, there are a couple of key things missing trough some settings details. Talking about the "Nasa Tom" setup, an upper limit of 4 and a lower limit of 0 seems to create this "special power" on the machine and following the mentioned setup that You can find somewhere here in the forum, maybe even allows to raise the sensitivity some points more... But, there's an undeniable reality about the place and and time factor to give the answer time by time.... I mean, if you try to go over the 25 level, the noise/signal ratio will be increasingly noticeable and at that point, your resistance to falsing can make all the difference. I never used this setup with discrimination for a good reason. In spite of thinner or larger ferrous limits what you don't want It is to make mute the machine. An identical ferrous volume like the general volume, creates a strong audio filter which helps to clearly define a good non ferrous tone, by an "iron dirty" one. You don't even need to look at the 2D panel unless You want to know the ID or possibly the shape due to the related trace. At this point let's talk about the audio theme...I hardly found the prospecting theme to be effective with the coil submerged in the water, I'm sorry, especially cause I LOVE true treshold whispers instead of a threshold interruption in favour of a signal... Step by step We are now landed to the most similar setup which (maybe) will give You this magic without to get crazy... Beach LC General vol.25 Ferrous volume 25 Upper F.L. 4 Lower F.L. (Do like You want, cause depth will come in a second) A l l M e t a l Red ID activated Gb tracking or manual (I don't complain) Separation speed up to 7 if You want to listen for a signal among falsing over the 26 sensitivity level...(I hope with the M8 otherwise don't mind this and 5 should be ok till 22) Audio theme Depth Treshold 0 Min pitch 40 Max pitch 60 Ferrous pitch 1 U.w. boost only if You're under the surface That's it.... And this might be not the perfect potion due to y o u r environment, black sand thickness, old iron patches, hot rocks and Emi out of the water... Hope this helps 🏴‍☠️

Hello all. I have a 2100v2 with docs screamer/battery kit an an assortment of coils. I use it very occasionaly where I live in Alaska (more GB2 country) but hopefully I will get at least a couple weeks a year to niugget hunt around prescott az while visiting my wifes sister. Its not a lot of use so I dont want to spend big money but I do want my best chance of success. So my question is, will I see a marked difference in performance & ease of use between the upgraded 2100v2 & a gpx 4500 or 5000. I see very slightly used 4500s & 5000s up here regularly in the $2400/2500 range.

Like the bullets i doubt that one would ever become bored digging them.

Yes with the 800 and other detector makes and models particularly the Garrett A/T Pro and Max. Turns out that in my case at least it was just the result of all of the reasonably hot and mineralized dirt and dust that accumulated between the coil cover and the coil. Problematic when dry but when wet it rendered the machines almost unworkable at times.Very simple problem to solve by routinely pulling off the plate and cleaning. Personally I've gotten into the habit of just leaving the covers off of the coils that are no longer under their warranty.

I have been thinking for a long time which manufacturer will be the first to produce a multi-frequency pinpointer... A good basis could be the Vanquish 340 /price 238 euros/ with a very small coil 3-4"... I have been thinking for a long time which manufacturer will be the first to produce a multi-frequency pinpointer... A good basis could be the Vanquish 340 /price 238 euros/ with a very small 3-4" coil... this detector is reasonably resistant to mineralization, although not as much as the equinox... since I myself am a "fan of really small coils on any detector... both from the point of view of separation and from the point of view of tracking targets... so I know how to use small coils for my work in detection.. so i find myself having a really small coil for each of my detectors...

Here’s what White’s had in their 2019 catalog.

Mr. Norvic; Sir. Not to detract from the topic at hand, but in my own defense, I must make you aware that my old prospecting Jeep has about 3/4ths of a turn in the steering wheel before i get a vague directional response in heading, therefore I navigate on BOTH sides of the road, but the safest course is dead center. I would be a disaster writing anywhere besides my occasional hit and run submissions to this forum. At least here Mr. H. has a ready finger on my shock collar transmitter.

Lead mine with benefits without a doubt !🤯 That's a pile a bullets right theyah ! I'd say you're tuned in.🥸

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When the soil is wet, ( after the rain ), my nox 800 can't go over 15-16 with sensitivity... That is large depth limitation... You have the same experiences?

Hey.. Welcome... U cannot miss withXP... or Garret, or Minelab.. good luck!

I have had good performance so far with these in my GMRS two way radios. Lightweight and last a long time. I love Lithium batteries but just be aware that they maintain near full output voltage to the very end of charge life and then they drop off fast so you cant trust the battery life indicator on most electronics. Best to just top them off whenever possible and/or carry spares if taking a long trip in the field. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08RZ5NDMM/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=ATDLTO2WXSDB5&psc=1

I started in the spring of 1974. First with a radio shack build your own kit. Then saved my yard money and bought a Jetco Mustang. Then a 5000-D from a local White's dealer. From then on. Yes, I have all of my catalogs. Do you all remember when dealers use to have a test garden so a customer can check them out before buying? My dealer use to have lay-a-way program and let me put mine for 6-Months, no interest... That was pretty cool! To this date, I use my XL Pro and Spectra V3i. A tad heavy, but not bad. I thumb through the catalogs periodically and reminisce. Thanks for sparking the interest Ridge Runner.

When you say original Gold Bug do you mean the 1990 analog model or the first digital version? The link to the manual for the original Gold Bug (analog) is in the post above and is where you need to start. The only Fisher video about the model simply showed how to put it together and not worth watching even if you could find it. The machine was one of several featured in an old VHS video Gold Nugget Prospecting : Metal Detecting With The Pros* but never made it to DVD or YouTube as far as I know. You best bet is the book Advanced Nugget Hunting With the Fisher Gold Bug Metal Detector by Pieter Heydelaar & Dave Johnson is an excellent primer on the use of the original Gold Bug model, linked below. There is not much to tune. Put it in Motion Mode. Turn Volume and Sensitivity to max. Set Threshold for a barely audible buzz. Ground balance properly (see manual). *Gold Nugget Prospecting: Metal Detecting with the Pros Authors: Ronald W Driscoll; Kathleen Driscoll; Brent Reason; Graham Alcock; Larry Sallee Publisher: Westwood Production Co. Prescott, AZ © 1994 Summary: You'll learn detector set up, basic research, dealing with hot rocks, types of ground to look for, where to go, coil control, patch gridding, implements needed, view a small commercial operation using a metal detector, and super hard earned tips. Featuring Larry Sallee, author of the book Zip Zip: Mastering Your Nugget Detector showing how to detect with the White's Goldmaster II, Bob Gutowski a.k.a. Nugget Bob with his Fisher Gold Bug, Floyd Allen a.k.a. Frugal Floyd with his Minelab XT 17000, and Glen Anderson with his Tesoro Lobo.

Since I figured out the difference in trace shape between caps and clad, I thought I'd share it here and see what you-all think. Traces for bottle caps: thick and fat trace, shows a clockwise rotation with the double hockey stick shadow. Canadian clad quarters show thin trace in a counter clockwise rotation, usually much longer than bottle caps. Also double hockey stick shadow. Loonies and toonies are similar to the quarter signal but much larger, like a freight train. And depends on year for metal alloys used.

That's too thin to be a USA Large Cent or one of its planchets. They are over 2 mm in thickness. Can you measure its weight. That would provide a final conclusion. That I don't know. The raised rim was put on the planchet so if never struck it should still have the rim. Denticles, OTOH, were part of the striking process, coming from the die.

Nokta Detectors The Legend Software Update - Version 1.15 Updates Made: 1. Deep Target Identification (dt) feature has been added. This feature allows non-ferrous deep targets, which are masked or detected as iron (ferrous), to be detected as non-ferrous. To access this feature, select the Recovery Speed setting and press the pinpoint button. When you navigate with the right and left keys, the letters "dt" will appear on the right side of the screen. You can change the value of the dt setting between 1-6 by using the plus (+) and minus (-) buttons. When it is at 0, this feature is off. When you increase the value, the stability of the device may diminish. This feature can be used in all modes with both multi-frequency and single frequencies. 2. Beast mode has been added. Very deep targets may have values close to the surrounding soil and therefore may not be detected. Beast mode allows you to detect targets at depths that cannot be detected in other modes. This mode resets the ground balanced soil, allowing deep coins and large masses to be detected by the detector. However, in this mode, targets at fringe depths may not give an ID or their ID may be unstable. When switching to Beast mode, All Metal discrimination pattern will be selected automatically. When switching from Beast mode back to Gold Field mode, the last selected discrimination pattern in Gold Field Mode will be restored. To use this feature, simply press the frequency key in Gold Field mode. Beast mode is indicated on the screen by the letters ‘’bE’’ under the multi frequency symbol M. 3. Second ground balance feature added in Beast mode. Due to its configuration, Beast mode may cause the device to give false signals to ground changes and mineralized/hot rocks. This may cause discomfort to the user during detection. Beast mode offers users a 2nd ground balance feature to overcome mineralized/hot rocks, red bricks and other ground changes in the surrounding environment that have different properties than the soil that’s been ground balanced. With the second ground balance, depending on the properties of the hot rock or brick, in some cases, complete silence can be achieved over these falsing targets. In other cases, a broken signal may be heard. Broken sounds indicate that the detected target is a mineralized/hot rock. To use this feature, press the Ground Balance button to access the setting. Then, activate the 2nd ground balance feature by pressing the Frequency button. When the 2nd ground balance is activated, the number "2" appears on the screen above the letters Gb. You can perform the 2nd ground balance by pressing the pinpoint button. When Beast mode is selected, 1st and 2nd ground balancing can only be performed automatically. Manual ground balancing is not possible. You can switch from the 2nd ground balance to the first one by pressing the Frequency button again. 4. Ability to reset the 1st and 2nd ground balance settings in the Beast mode. While Beast mode is selected, the ground balance value is reset by entering the ground balance menu and long pressing the up button. When the button is held down, the animation is shown on the screen. To reset the 2nd ground balance value, first activate the 2nd ground balance. Reset the 2nd ground balance value by pressing the up button again. 5. Updates have been made in the Ground Balance Menu. a. When selecting between FerroCheck (FC) and Mineralization Indicator (GI), the 'FC' or 'GI' indicators displayed on the right side of the screen have been moved to the left. b. The 'FC' or 'GI' indicators which remain on the screen until exiting the menu will be automatically cleared from the screen after 2 seconds. c. When the Tracking feature is activated, the ground balance level flashes on the screen. In Beast mode, when the Ground Balance 2 is activated while the tracking feature is on, the ground balance level will be shown steady to avoid confusion. 6. "Iron Rejection" feature in Beast mode. Beast mode, like the Gold Field mode, produces signals for both non-ferrous and ferrous targets by changing the frequency of the sound according to the strength of the received signal. In order to distinguish ferrous targets, especially those closer to the surface, depending on the signal strength received from the ferrous target, the device emits a lower tone than that of the non-ferrous targets with the frequency varying according to the strength of the signal. To access this feature, select the Recovery Speed setting and press the pinpoint button. The letters "Ir" will appear on the right side of the screen. You can change the value of the ‘’Ir’’ setting between 1-5 by using the plus (+) and minus (-) keys. When it is at 0, this feature is off. When the value is increased, the probability of emitting a ferrous tone for deep non-ferrous targets increases. 7. General improvements have been made. Visit Software Update at noktadetectors.com: https://www.noktadetectors.com/metal-detector/the-legend/

Ron,the GB2 sound like a good option,do you have any idea of the link please or a image of one that has converted to a pinpointer as a i have a spare control box and small coil that i could use to make one. Have seen a Tesoro conversion with the 4'' coil and that really looked the part,but the GB2 really does grab my attention.

Website double posted for some reason so I amended this version.

Is this the answer ??

The upper and lower ferrous limits of 4 and 0 seem to be universally praised for power beach detecting and I agree completely. The Manticore manual actually states that better depth can be gained with the lower ferrous limits set to zero. Is there anything to gain by opening up the upper ferrous limits to zero as well or is this going to generate too much iron signal that would otherwise have been silenced? I have very little "purer" iron targets on my beach......there are no nails, bolts, screws, etc and for the most part, free from black sands. What else am I missing in regard to the upper ferrous limits? If there is no depth advantage by closing the upper ferrous limits further then I wonder why "4" was the sweet spot? Thanks for any feedback Manticorers !