Jeff McClendon

I like all of the above plus target response inversion feature so that no matter what coil type is used and what setting...Mono, DD or Cancel it will be easy to make the low high/high low responses consistent and the inversion point predicatble. I personally have really been working with the GPX 6000 on this issue and it is driving me crazy..........

Dream on......................

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DD coils will also average two adjacent targets. Put a nail on top of or next to a US dime. In your scenario the Equinox will average the iron nail and non ferrous target when the center spine of the DD coil is parallel to the nail's orientation. With iron rejected the Equinox will more than likely null when the center spine of the DD coil is perpendicular to the nail's orientation. Depending on the detector's iron filtering quality, using a concentric coil in your scenario the targets will give a good response and be averaged (if you have a display), partially broken up but averaged or nulled. This is why most experienced relic hunters or hunters that detect in thick iron usually have all or most of the iron range target IDs accepted whether they are using a DD or concentric coil and why suspected borderline iron targets are approached from more than one direction when swinging a coil over them especially when using a DD coil.

Lead #8 and #9 birdshot is easily detected with the GPX 6000. I don’t own a 7000 so can’t speak about that. I also have no experience with modern #8 steel birdshot. My GPX 6000 will detect #8 lead birdshot with its DD coil too. So, .1 gram to .05 gram gold is no problem for the GPX 6000 or the Equinox 800 using its gold modes if it is within 2” to 3” of the surface.

You could read the manual or just take my word for it. European coke seems to be detected by the Equinox using its multi frequency setting in the 0 to +2 target ID range.

A couple of Deus 2/Multi Kruzer comparison videos in English on Swiss hillside pasture. Very fair comparisons by an experienced Multi Kruzer user. Both videos are fairly long but are live relic/coin digs with tones and target ID numbers.

That’s the adapter. The WS6 with the back phones work really well and are really nice in hot weather since they don’t go over your ears and allow plenty of air flow. For me though, they are uncomfortable. I have a really big head however. Even most off the shelf sunglasses are uncomfortable and so are many headband headphones.

Gary Blackwell explains the Deus 2 Notch feature. Good news, the notch feature is on the WS 6 module too.... Bad new for gold prospectors and micro gold jewelry hunters, Sensitive, Sensitive FT and Fast have halo effect/coke notches by default at least on the version of software that Gary is using. Park also has the big 23-36 coke and tiny aluminum notch. So if gold prospecting/micro jewelry hunting with some of the 40 kHz discrimination programs, better remove that notch first. Dumbing down the Deus 2 for the masses like this is very similar to how Minelab dumbed down the Equinox with coke discrimination in Park 1, Field 1, Field 2 and making every program including the Gold modes have iron discriminated by default.

This is a fantastic topic. Since I usually use an Equinox in my area, I get lots of questions from fellow detector users about which mode to use..... This is just from my experience so it could be totally wrong. The frequency used in my detecting area which like KOB and Cal Cobra has soil that is definitely not inert, really matters in terms of what frequency can actually penetrate far enough to hit deeper targets. SMF tech like Multi IQ really helps but single frequency detectors in certain ranges work too. The rule of thumb would say a lower frequency would penetrate farther on say, coin sized US targets. That is just not the case here. Frequencies in the vicinity of 20 kHz or a bit higher seem to be able to get through the magnetic ground fog created by all of the magnetite and volcanics in the soil in my area. Detectors running below 12 kHz get absolutely no depth here. Even some approximately 13 kHz VLFs (MXT/MX7, T2 F75 are great examples) that ordinarily are incredibly deep don't do well at all here. So it seems to me that the amount and type of iron and volcanic content of the soil mineralization also determines what the best frequency/SMF frequencies may be for a certain area which may be determined by the size of the frequency wavelength. Using Multi IQ tech which seems to make the ground more invisible using the Equinox certainly helps here too.

Your choice of coin to test was totally fine. Not many people here in North America that metal detect would know what a .50 Euro coin is like. I just wanted to give people here a frame of reference.

Just for US/Canadian reference, the coin being used is a 50 cent Euro coin which is roughly the size of a Canadian Looney or a US Sacagewea $1 coin and weighs similarly.....7.8 grams, or a very big coin.

The Deus 2 even in its FMF 14 kHz diving mode and with salt sensitivity settings above 0, will actually hit a .35 gram nugget in an air test in bad EMI. Not bad at all. Great depth....not particularly but air testing SMFs for depth is kind of pointless. In EMI like that, it is impossible to really get a good idea of what Deus 2 on a .35 gram nugget in Gold Field or its other 40 kHz programs without threshold/reactivity adjustments will do. Add in iron mineralization..........who knows. EMI just cuts high gain SMF tech detectors like the Deus 2 and Equinox off at the knees sometimes when it is really bad.

NOTHING is wrong with the Beach modes......... First, the ground was moderately mineralized from looking at the mineralization meter in the lower left of the screen. Second the gentleman was swinging fairly haphazardly with lots of arc on the end of each swing and he often almost missed the targets. So, there is nothing wrong with the Beach programs that I can see. 10. Diving is maxed at 14 kHz, so not the best frequency for small gold under 1 gram depending on shape. This by the way, is where at least on paper, the Excal maxed at 26 kHz has the advantage on Deus 2 and its 14 kHz Diving program. Otherwise.......Deus 2 all day for most gold jewelry using Beach or Beach Sensitive. 11. Beach is maxed at 24 kHz. Definitely more sensitive than Diving at 14 kHz but still won't hit hard on sub gram sized gold. 12. Beach Sensitive is maxed at 40kHz. That will hit most small gold jewelry from 1 gram down to .1 gram that is near the surface and will scream on 1 gram and up gold jewelry. The other modes 1. Gen, 2. Sens, 3. Sens FT, 4. Fast, 8. Gold are all maxed at 40 kHz and will have no problem on .1 and bigger gold jewelry. Only the Gold mode hit that .05 piece really well.....VCO audio helped there. 9. Relic is maxed at 24 kHz which is okay. It will scream on small gold coins or 1 gram and up jewelry at relic sites. 5. Park is maxed at 24 kHz plus it has a default notch from 23 to 36.....right in the small gold range along with Bottle Cap reject set at 5 which may also mask small gold targets. So, default Park for small gold jewelry is highly iffy unless some settings are changed. 6. Deep High Conductor is maxed at 14 kHz.....not for gold basically 7. Deus Mono default at 17 kHz. Not the greatest small gold frequency. Deus Mono is not using XP's FMF technology. It is a throwback, holdover from Deus 1. Target IDs may up or down average a bit depending on selected frequency, on target size, conductivity and the level of ground mineralization. I will not be using that mode very much...... So, in my opinion the Deus 2 in its default settings performed about as expected on different sized gold targets laying on mineralized ground. For the modes that are optimized for gold (40kHz), the target IDs were consistent and so were the audio responses for each target.

The manual suggests Park 1 Multi as a good starting place.

Sorry to hear that Dilek had Covid 19 but I am glad that she seems to be recovering well and still has her usual enthusiasm. I can wait a little longer for the Legend. I am not in a big hurry even though new toys are always fun especially when they are fine metal detectors. Sounds like the test units were returned in order to be updated and retested by some of the final field testers to see if their suggestions were fulfilled. I like the idea of a 4 tone mode. It will make the possibility of really jumpy audio near too many tone breaks easier to control and gives the user iron, low, medium and high conductor divisions which make sense. I also like the idea of two different multi frequency weightings for Park and Field modes. Personally, I don't see the need for two different frequency weightings in Gold prospecting mode....... and find the two Gold modes on both the ORX and Equinox to be redundant except for making one of them a sort of "custom" mode.

I haven't tried out the Deus 2 yet, but from everything I have seen so far its SMF tech will be good enough to trust the notch function. In the past, setting a Deus 1 notch in any soil that was even slightly mineralized would cause a lot of up averaging of VDIs and make using a low to mid conductor notch very unreliable. The Equinox notch system works very well for the most part and I have my fingers crossed that the Deus 2's will also.

18k and larger 14k gold rings also give zinc penny numbers sometimes……… I look at zinc pennies as indicators of someone being careless with their belongings and use them to find areas where someone hangs out a lot, a bit like finding iron at former home sites. So, I love finding zinc pennies since other better stuff almost always is in the same area. Notch them out…not for me.

Ken, there is nothing wrong with using the Legend Gold Prospecting mode in Multi at the beach…….It will have a higher frequency running but it will also have a lower one too. I know you can only select single frequency 20 and 40 kHz in the Gold Prospecting mode. Why would you want to use a single frequency at a saltwater beach when multi frequency would work as well or better. The dry and wet Beach modes using multi will also have very low and medium frequencies. They can be run in 1, 2 or more tones and a threshold reference tone can be use. To me, the Legend looks like an outstanding beach detector for any target conductivity.

Thanks for letting us know again that you are an active member of this forum. I always appreciate your videos. They definitely brighten my day and give me plenty of information that really helps. Thanks for being here!!!!

I am glad the waterproof Gold Kruzer is still around. That is an excellent detector with some great features. Haven't tried the GoldFinder 2000........ The Legend must really be something on small low conductors. From the European videos I have seen, it has much more stable target IDs on deeper targets and low conductors and seems way less EMI and abnormal ground conditions finicky compared to the detectors that were discontinued. So its SMF tech appears to be quite advanced.

Reg, I have never used the GPX 6000 external speaker while detecting. I have used and really enjoyed the new model Minelab Bluetooth headphones. My GPX 6000 with the 14" DD coil works fantastic even in my backyard which has my neighbors 70 foot shortwave radio tower to contend with along with a crowded suburb full of Wi-Fi. The 11" mono.......I stepped it off recently........I could not get within 1000 feet of a big power line at a prospecting site. My former SDC 2300 had similar issues. I was able to get inside 100 feet with my GPX 5000 using its 11" Commander Mono using the mono setting. The GPX 6000 with the 14" DD coil, I could walk right under the power lines......go figure.

I am not surprised at all by this decision. I have owned five of those listed long enough to discover that they could not handle moderate to high iron mineralization worth a darn, overloaded on some of their lowest settings and were basically too unstable to use where I live. The lower frequency models also were not that great in saltwater or on wet saltwater sand. This is another instance where high quality SMF tech really can make detectors like the ones listed become obsolete almost overnight. With this decision, the Racer line of detectors is now done along with the original Makro half of Nokta Makro. It also shows how much Nokta Makro believes in the Anfibio Multi, Simplex and of course their new Legend to continue to be great sellers as they should be. I have owned the Simplex and definitely could see its potential. The Legend is a detector that I will definitely buy in the future.

Thanks Reg. I really enjoyed using the QED PL3 I owned for about a year. Nice detector. Difficult to ground balance in North American high magnetite iron mineralization. Also, it was shipped to North America without being adjusted for our 60 Hz electrical system so EMI was hard to control......sounds familiar concerning the GPX 6000. How a mistake like that can happen is beyond me. I was told to just not use it near urban areas which happens to be where I live and often relic detect. Many of my prospecting sites are near big power lines too. Oh well. I was an early owner of the GPX 6000. Like I mentioned above, I was turned off by its hyper sensitivity to US EMI using its mono coils. I was extremely impressed with the 14" DD coil and the seamless way the GPX 6000 could switch between mono and DD coils. I sold mine and regretted it. I picked up a used one recently for an incredible price that came with several extras. It behaves exactly the same as the first one. I will just patiently wait for a smaller DD coil from Coiltek.......hopefully.....please!!!!!

I have used the XY graph on Deus 1. In ground where every small non-ferrous target isn't pulled into the iron target ID range, the XY graph is very good. On Deus 2 with its more accurate FMF target IDs, bigger screen and XY graph zoom feature it may even be better.