midalake

As a beach hunter, I dig EVERYTHING nonferrous, without exception. I have learned over many years that salt, and black sand can make targets appear differently than other landscapes. If you're going for gold, there is no option to dig everything between 1 and 21.

I can vouch for the ability of the Tarsacci in forceful moving wave wash. It is fantastic! Unwavering with very little signal/detection interference.

Well? Timeline was good. But the rest of the transaction seemed a little cold.

Nice haul......LOVE THE CASH!!!!

Final report: >Remote shipped Aug 12th >Upon arrival, tracking conformation stated, "delivered to neighbor" Slightly worried, I sent two emails the next business day for delivery conformation, no response. I called the next business day, and a nice person named Jeff confirmed that they did receive my Remote. >August 18th return shipping label created. >Today, August 23 received a new replacement Remote. No follow-up notes or correspondence. Wallet $35 lighter for the shipping fees I had to pay.

Well, since you were in a mining area, and the grabbing part seems really flat. Maybe it was used for picking small gold out of a pan?

How are the Horseshoe Mode "on" testers doing???

Make sure there is no soil/sand under your coil cover.................If there is, clean it and retest.

Nice Haul!!!

I am unsure where I am in the warranty process? I have received no correspondence other than a return shipping label created for $24.26 [UPS]

I paid $10 to ship to them, and they are charging $24.26 for return shipping. Found this out today.

It seems like we are having a terminology problem? Discrimination mode is: Horseshoe mode off. All metal mode is: Horseshoe mode ON. I have literally done 50 wild tests where I have taken what I have identified as a nonferrous deep target in Horseshoe mode on. Then I switch the Horseshoe mode off and look at that same target. Not a sound! Not even a tick! [same settings] I have done this so many times, I don't do it anymore. My saying is: it makes the Deus2 reach for capabilities the the Equinox has. Well, our first testing of the Deus2 we could run Beach in the wet sand/water contact area. Just a few weeks ago when I took my Deus2 down for the first time, I could not get Beach to function with the amount of black sand we had. I reverted to two different programs, one -Beach Pitch, the other- Dive Mode. Black Sand is very hard on the Deus2. I don't have a feel, yet for which one will go deeper. {Nox or D2} I will say a couple of general trends. The D2 has issues giving iron grunts on nonferrous targets and also seems to enhance ferrous targets in Black Sand. I know what you're thinking, well Dave.......how can it do both? That was my question too, I was looking for some type of tell, for me to separate items at depth better. I could not find one. The other generality, after the D2 loses a TID lock on a target good luck figuring out what it is. It is clearly not as simple as one ring for nonferrous and double ring for ferrous targets. [we found this to be true in testing with beach mode and now with black Sand and Beach Pitch and Dive mode. Adding third Hunting active wave wash is important and difficult. In the last session I had more time in tough air-entrained wave action. As I suspected originally, the Deus beats the Equinox in this zone. Both in functionality and achieving better depth. I did not do a full write-up of this because my Remote was discharging after I shut the machine off. So, I cannot be 100% sure my Deus2 was even working correctly. [though I think it was working correctly] Once my machine comes back from warranty repair, I will eventually get back on it in January. However, my beach usually does not have the same nasty black sand condition at this time of year unless there is a late storm.

You post was unclear as to what mode. As for say one tone or 5 tone in horseshoe mode going deeper, that is not my claim. I just claim the Horseshoe mode is deeper than discrimination. I just happen to hunt in "one tone" Backstory: Briefly I hunted in discrimination mode two tone for about a year. Then at about the same time I figured out horseshoe mode was deeper, and iron targets double rung, and nonferrous targets only produced a single ring. So, when I switched to Horseshoe mode, I went to one tone.

Outstanding job!!!

Yes, an important fact Jeff. Both companies are fine tuning their products. Do we know a real winner yet because of this?

XP Deus 2 Or Legend....which Do I Keep? Don't know Jeff, maybe another 20 hours or so on each will bring you closer to a good decision? GL 😁

One tone or five tone? You talking about discrimination? There won't be any difference. The difference is HORSESHOE mode. Horseshoe mode is the deeper mode in one tone!

Well my Equinox is 2500 miles away in Mexico. You do not have to be on a beach to duplicate this! You get home from work, grab any nail/screw put it on the ground and take a slow swing at it, coil raised about 5". At some point going around it you will hear a double ring. Many people might mistake this for two targets [but it is not] Also try like a 1/2" steel washer [not stainless] Beach2, IB[origional f-6 and recovery 6, Tracking GB, 1 tone, Horseshoe mode on. PM me too if your having any other issues.

Yes of course, and to add to schoolofhardnox thougths. My example was one of my own real-world experiences where I cannot hunt Beach 1 at the same sensitivity as Beach2. I fought this for a while in my own head, and conferred with a few experts even getting an opinion from Dankowski. Then after some time on my primary beach, it was clear to me that if I could run Beach2 two sensitivity points higher than Beach1 I was better off. At least where I was standing.

Maybe it is my pod and coil combo? I am not the only one though that has not noticed an advantage running Beach 1. It has been mentioned by others, on several forums. There is hunting sensitivity, then enhancement sensitivity. If I am hunting in Beach 2 at 22 and find a difficult target, I do not have an issue going to 24 just to get a better look at that one target. I can usually move two points of sensitivity regardless of the conditions. Now take a combo of Beach 1 at 20 with the ability to 22. YES, there is a difference. correct. *I have no idea if this works in another mode than Beach 2. Most of the ferrous at the beach is .50 cent size and less, also nails of all types and sizes. The double ring on ferrous happens at ALL depths, and for the deepest targets you get the one-sided signal breakdown more often. High nonferrous targets can also double ring however these WILL lock out on the positive TID side making for easy diggers. ALL Nonferrous targets at depth will ONLY single ring. [you cannot even make them double ring by mistake] It is as simple as ding/pause/ding. Coil control is critical, and one will pick up on the cadence needed soon enough, Reason:? I am thinking without question the edges of the coil read each side of the ferrous targets. I am also guessing it has something to do with frequency weighting in Beach 2. Everyone needs to know [again] I have no idea if this works in any different mode than Beach2.

I prove this wrong at every hunt with nonferrous targets.

OK, on those days where you can only do 20 sens, don't be afraid to run the same settings in Beach 2. You should be able to at least run 22 in Beach2.

I guess running both machines now and testing small items, I agree with Steve. I do not see a bonus to either machine on a beach with detectable small gold. In the picture below, I found this chain with the Equinox a broken "1" tid signal. Buit strong and repeatable. In an air test [not the same, i get it] The deus2 seemed to get a better signal to the Equinox. However could of been a different story in my Black Sand. I think an important topic missed, is what function can you run in with the Deus2. I think for most beach hunters you can forget wet/sand water contact for Beach Sensitive. It is clear to me with wild finds that neither machine is going to have an advantage on small items. I already have the 9" coil for the Deus2 and I do not anticipate this will make any difference on small gold targets from what I tested. There was some anticipation and hype from some about with the D2 on filling coffee cans with small gold. The reality is that is not going to happen.

But letting me know your current sensitivity range tells me what your conditions is. After all I can get Beach 1 to hunt quiet, but the sensitivity is not acceptable. Are you able to hunt 21 sensitivity and over?

I can run sensitivity between 20 and 24, depending on Black sand. IB, and recovery both at 6. IB the original f-6. I do run 1 or 2 points of threshold [it seems to enhance deep targets] and really even with the good headphones I have you cannot hear the threshold at 1 or 2. Because it is going to sound like a new world to you> hearing everything even Black Sand ticks try not to run the sensitivity at your max. Run it pretty clean and if you get a deep target [and are unsure] then bump the sens 1or2 to look at just that target. Once you get a hang for the single, double ring targets, then increase your sens. One more point, good coil control is needed to hear the double ring, you have to swing slow over the target and be centered best as possible. It is OK to have have a half fast regular swing but when you get a hit [slow down] It is real easy to know where the center of the target is in horseshoe mode, and you will never need to use pinpoint again! I really don't like Beach 1 and never hunt it. I can get much more sensitivity and less falsing in beach 2. Sensitivity wins with the equinox. What sensitivity range are you hunting now?