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Both the NF 12x8 mono for legacy GPX and the Coiltek 9" Elite are twin stack flatties as well. Anything under 11" is gonna need stacking.....otherwise, there's not enuff room.

Anyone involved in the industry/hobby for the past decade/s will know that Minelab is a Master of what their previous Sales Manager labeled 'incremental Innovation' . They will always release a new detector model ONLY when the economic circumstances force them to. Steve has seen multi-decades of disappointment in the industry where promises and expectations are dashed, so a degree of pessimism is completely warranted. On the plus side, ZVT tech has been investigated quite a bit lately by Woody and only on two improvement stages, he has found wild improvements in overall depth on all sizes of targets. Add the benefits of new coil designs and the 8000 could well be something special. BUT, Minelab will have to ensure that the model they release will not supersede the next 2 models they have on the drawing board....

I think if you suggest HF VLF detectors only, you could be right. The Garrett Groundhog range is multiple units and not just one single model but that together could rival the GB2's record. The overall winner would have to be the Minelab GPX4500, the highest selling PI detector ever built. The amount of gold found with that detector in Africa alone is simply staggering. Says something, that one single detector can be manufactured for over 30 years and has found multi-millions of pieces worldwide without being altered in any meaningful way and still being offered for sale as a successful option. Fisher deserves to be resurrected based on this alone

Probably a very small marketplace for it....not worth the expenditure to develop. A smaller, enthusiast company could do it though, but the markup would be high and thus the RRP would follow suit.

Most serious analysts suggest that silver should hit US$100 per oz and the more excitable analysts are hoping it could even reach US$300 per oz 'within a few years'. So hang onto it, if you can afford to... No new major silver deposits are being discovered and a lot of smaller mines and by-product producers (lead or nickel mines) are closing each year. So, demand is increasing and supply is decreasing.....usual effect of that is a price increase. We wait and see...

I been saying it for years, FTP needs to divest Fisher, sell it off as a going brand and allow it to regain some real market share again. BH and Teknetics are a dead duck and probably need to just retire. They 'had their day' and nobody takes those brands seriously anymore. Fisher though, is still an iconic brand (first metal detector brand since 1931) and everybody knows the name. The Gold Bug 2 has been in production for 30 years (?) which says something. I owned 2 and found thousands of bits of gold with them....still sorta wish I owned one now in fact.

Dunno why I'm laughing....all that sh*t don't work with me either.... eyes, back, legs....list goes on. 😒 Still, I never thought Id see gold at AU$112 per gram. I could almost afford to eat at that price!

Ive only tried around a couple sites in Luzon and the soil is as mild as it gets, compared to Australia. A Gold Monster would be fine, or any other HF VLF detector. Just that there are places where trash is considerable. So use something that has ferrous ID or basic discrim. In my 2 trips to the Phil. I got ripped off twice, attempted pick-pocketted numerous times, dodged street gags who were known to abduct westerers etc. Once money or potential valuables come into play, there can be trouble. A detector is like a red flag to a bull over there....be careful. Get your detector freighted via Fedex (with insurance) as long as the tax isnt too much.

Can just imagine the ML patents attorney trying to invent buzzwords to obfuscate the real ingredients and use thereof for the canteen pie sauce....the paragraphs have to be 20 sentences long...minimum 😁

I would say that is perfectly true. I can barely remember ANY hot rocks I ever got with the 2300 ...

As JP says....YEP! Its most definitely a significant improvement.... perhaps one of the three channels is MPF-like, with the super fast sampling on another one for the tiny stuff. The triple channel has certainly added an extra layer of PI sensitivity.

Geosense is simply an automated way of altering the CPU code on the fly. The ground minerals sensed by the CPU automatically alters the receive code to filter more efficiently. Plucking the tiny metal signals from the overall receive signal. The 6000 is a triple channel detector and 2 of these channels are 'MPF like' with only one being dedicated to code seeking deeper targets. Interesting that MPF is no longer being touted as a technology on the box anymore. Wonder if the patent is still active????

"Time Domain" in reference to a metal detector simply means 'Pulse Induction'. PI detectors are Time domain , IB (VLF) detectors are frequency domain.

GPZ and ATX owners should get one of these when they buy new from the dealer! Expected RRP????

In the South is where the Muslim terrorists are incl elements of Islamic State. Westerners are discouraged from travelling alone there, esp if you're chasing gold. Luzon might be a better bet for safety. There is gold quite close to Manila, in the hills above Marakina and nobody seems to pay much attention to it, except for a few local kids.

My thoughts exactly......this seems likely. Just dodgy re-copying of text.

My understanding is that 'Ultra Sensing' is their term for the flat-wound coils. Anything that doesnt have that term on the coil is just std bundle wound.

Apologies Reg, yes it could be misconstrued by the unwary 😉 I will edit it 👍

plus also a big whopper that @Reg Wilson found back in the 90's and an american con-artist tried to pass it off as a US one.

Hope whoever buys it, gets an assay to determine its actual country of origin.

Its a massive job. Not only do you have to contend with waterproofing the box, connectors, battery, switches etc plus shortening or building a new stem and cuff setup, but there's also the effect of buoyancy. True underwater detectors are neutrally buoyant with heavy-base epoxy or similar. For the same amount of time and $$ spent, you'd be better off with an Excal II or a Garrett SH II.... or even a Nokta Pulse dive.

A real SMH moment with Dave being the 'host', my understanding was that he was never a prospector anyway, just a quarry owner/earthmover...everything he learned about gold mining was since he joined Gold Rush. The real-deal guy to do this sorta thing would be Freddy Dodge methinks.

No need for anything fancy, just a short length of shock cord tied onto the handle of your scoop and a holster. Ive used this method of scoop retention for over 20 years now... aint lost once since 😉

I think Steve hit the nail right on the head.... aside from the 'Detector tech hitting the wall' question, Minelab, as the world leaders in detector technology, are slowly failing....even if they dont see it. Competition is here with much more to come. The GPZ7000 replacement has been sitting on the bench for a couple years now and without the actual 'hitting the ball outta the park' analogy coming true, then all the small, incremental improvements aint gonna be enough to sway the serious purchaser into ditching their Legacy GPX, 6000 or 7000 machines. As Minelab's own motto goes 'Performance is Everything' and this actual, serious performance increase will be the ONLY thing that keeps ML at the top of the heap. Not only do the serious guys buy a lot of detectors, but their in-field results drive sales. Nothing sells like success....

Plenty of options for future development still.... the square winding style that NF has produced, the options for CC coils on current PI detectors, flat winding etc....PLUS the future options for signal processing in the coil rather than on the PCB (like the Gold Monster does) are possibilities.