Ridge Runner Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Phrunt I think it’s like you said 2018 is a wake up call for a lot of detector companies. The trouble being if your product is not selling and no money coming in you could be another lost . I’d like to see all detector companies healthy . It’s good for them and us the buyer . Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share Posted November 25, 2018 23 hours ago, phrunt said: Detectors like the Gold Bug Pro still being sold now so many years after it's release without a volume control is just nuts. The Fisher F19 is basically an upgraded Gold Bug Pro and it does include a volume control. It can still be found for as low a price as any of the Gold Bugs at a couple vendors. There was a clearance special a while back with a dramatic price drop from $699 to $449. The F19 is easily the better buy for people who can find them at the $449 price. F19 Owner's Manual page 19: Volume Use or to adjust the volume setting when the VOLUME menu option is highlighted. The default volume setting is 7. Press to increase speaker volume. Maximum volume is at setting 20. Press to lower speaker volume. The minimum volume setting is 0, no sound. With volume set to 0, the Target-ID and Depth Bar Graph will function as normal, but the detector will not emit a sound when targets are detected. The overload volume signal will always sound off in the event of signal overload, even with the volume set to 0. Because the F19™ is so sensitive to even the smallest iron targets, the detector incorporates FeTone™, Adjustable Iron Audio, a feature to reduce the volume of iron targets to minimize user fatigue. Volume settings 10 - 20 are available to control the volume level of iron targets. As you increase volume from 10 to 20, iron-volume changes from silent to maximum. Note that, depending on the V-BREAK® setting, iron targets may induce V.C.O. tones; in this case, the V.C.O. tones in the iron range (ID 1 - 39) will also have the same reduced volume. At each of the 10 - 20 volume settings, nonferrous target response is maximum volume. Volume control applies only to motion target detection. Volume changes do not affect Pinpoint volume. Fisher F19 Information Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick K - First Member Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Tell it to Frito-Lay/PepsiCo. How many different corn chip and potato chip flavor and shape variants can you name? Choice is good. Otherwise cow-kissing wouldn’t be a thing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal_Cobra Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Yawn....someone wake me up when they actually have something new 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivers rat Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 If only the F75 could work on the wetsand.......................................... RR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB_Amateur Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/24/2018 at 10:15 AM, Jeff McClendon said: The Fisher latest version of the Gold Bug Pro and the F19 are the only semi-modern detectors in their line-up. Don't know how you define 'semi-modern', but the F44 is their newest product (still a few years old...) and possibly their best competitive model -- comparing with the competition's price and its features relative to that competition. Unfortunately you can only rest on your laurels for so long (just ask Tesoro..., oh, wait, there might not be anyone there to answer). In terms of engineering effort, I doubt anyone has put as much muscle (and total salary compensation) into creating new detectors as First Texas has done in the past few years. Yet so far, nothing to market. That has to be a much bigger concern in El Paso than on this forum (or for that matter, all forums, Facebook pages, etc. combined). The positive spin on this is that, contrary to their recent marketing style, the engineers (and apparently their superiors) aren't willing to put out a disappointing (for example, repainted pre-existing) model just to try and save face in a competitive marketplace. And some of us are still optimistic they will produce before it's too late. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackpine Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Trading in a detector for the Nox was a toss up between the F75 and X-T 705. Both being equally deep in my ground on coins. The 705 stayed only because the control pod is removable and I had invested in a coil cable extension which makes a nice back up detector for my fresh water hunting. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 The CZ-3D and CZ-21 have always puzzled me. I figured job one after getting Dave Johnson on board would have been a digital redesign of the CZ into a waterproof housing that more resembles the F44. Replace the CZ3D and CZ21 with one lighter weight model waterproof to ten feet. Dave designed the original, so you would think this would be a reasonable goal, especially with the CZ being an old analog design both expensive and difficult to manufacture. I always liked the CZ. Details here Fisher CZ-3D metal detector Fisher CZ-21 metal detector 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabin Fever Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Yes! A new modern CZ with a good DD coil selection would have been a big hit. Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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